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Remove seasoned woods from dlc ships

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1 hour ago, Lars Kjaer said:

Let's say a new player

standard agrument. New players can get everything they want if they are willing to do the grind. For seasoned wood Portbonus ships that means they have to do a lot of economical grind and take a port from someone or get onto a firendlist by diplomacy. Damn hard but not impossible. Or they pay extra money to get S wood generating DLC ships. yeah that will encurage them to get better at the game for sure oO

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19 minutes ago, Thonys said:

you need normal wood to become seasoned. (also in the future) 

I think that's really the issue, though. If that's the only thing normal woods will be useful for, why even have them at all? It'll just create more completely unnecessary work for people who want competitive ships. Not to mention yet another barrier to new players who have none of the capital required to purchase/produce seasoned ships.

 

For those new players, the only reasonable solution will be to buy DLC ships right out of the gate, immediately after finishing the tutorials. How is that fair? Or perhaps more pertinently: how is that not P2W?

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10 minutes ago, The Geth said:

I think that's really the issue, though. If that's the only thing normal woods will be useful for, why even have them at all? It'll just create more completely unnecessary work for people who want competitive ships. Not to mention yet another barrier to new players who have none of the capital required to purchase/produce seasoned ships.

 

For those new players, the only reasonable solution will be to buy DLC ships right out of the gate, immediately after finishing the tutorials. How is that fair? Or perhaps more pertinently: how is that not P2W?

the counter is 

they can join a vet clan ...

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45 minutes ago, Thonys said:

the counter is 

they can join a vet clan ...

If they let a new player join. So a bit luck is involved. 

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3 hours ago, Raekur said:

Currently you can purchase ships from the admiralty that have seasoned woods and break them down, does that mean that this option should be removed as well and that all admiralty ships should have standard woods only? YES

The DLC and admirality ships are there for a reason. QUICK ACTION, if your argument is that people wont buy dlc because they wont have the seasoned woods you're wrong, people have bought them for quick and easy access to ships aswell as they look good, it has worked since we had just port bonuses for crafted ships and it will work now for seasoned woods

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5 hours ago, Thonys said:

the counter is 

they can join a vet clan ...

And what happens when the clan is full? Don't we already have an issue of too many clans per nation, in a game where we also have too many nations and little-to-no diplomacy? Why would we want to make existing factionalism even worse?

If seasoned woods are truly the future of the game, every ship sold by the admiralty should be made of them, and every craftable ship in the game -- permit or not -- should be available for purchase from the admiralty. Then at least new players would have guaranteed access to ships of decent quality, while still leaving port bonuses and on-demand frame/planking combinations to crafters.

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On 2/14/2020 at 1:48 PM, squeekydoor said:

Can we talk about just harvesting seasoned woods from forests then. 

Are you suggesting the trees got seasoned while still growing?  How does that work?

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1 hour ago, Kubrat said:

Are you suggesting the trees got seasoned while still growing?  How does that work?

rEaLiSm

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There are no plans to remove , but thank you for the proposals.
Thread can be locked as it is discussing something that will never happen.

 

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