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50 minutes ago, rediii said:

You read a forumpost in the internet ofcourse its true

Oh sorry I forgot that the internet always tells the truth!! 

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49 minutes ago, Anolytic said:

Once CABAL left the port, our calculation changed of course, because the significance of the port changed.

Yeah, 'cus they all decided to move their stuff to San Juan...

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Just now, Intrepido said:

Did prussia collapse after the fall of NO?

If they do, then it was considered a crafting Port.

They did.

It was a crafting port, I dunno why all of a sudden they're trying to re-write history.

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To clarify the thing with Prussia. We were one of the biggest nations after release I think the 3rd or 4th by Population. We had daily up to 75 Players on ts active. As BF tried to flip it we had up to 120 on ts. But after NO fell the RvR players left (some already before) because they were blamed for all this. KRAKE had up to 30-50 Players online a day.

So YES. The Russians took NO and destroyed prussia. :) All the players went inactive or left the nation only some rumours were left maybe 20 players if it was a golden day.

(my side of the story)

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5 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said:

They did.

It was a crafting port, I dunno why all of a sudden they're trying to re-write history.

Im sure your next issue of Willemstad Der Sturmer will straighten all of this out truthfully and accurately.

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10 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said:

Yeah, 'cus they all decided to move their stuff to San Juan...

Dannebrog will fly the towers of San Juan again. It is gods will! 

To kill a sweede is the pathway to heaven! To maim a sweede is an abolishment for all thy sins!

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8 minutes ago, Spikes said:

 I don't know. I just don't remember Prussia owning that area for a long time after the release. As for collapse...I think they are stronger now at this point with LAMA going there than they ever were at or around release.

You are aware that LAMA started in pussia as KRAKE and after BF took NO they switched to danmark before they went to GB as LAMA and now went back to Prussia? As Prussia lost NO 75% of prussia's population vanished too.20190623142220_1.thumb.jpg.d6ee86b20c5406fdc3ac19525808e31e.jpg

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1 minute ago, z4ys said:

You are aware that LAMA started in pussia as KRAKE and after BF took NO they switched to danmark before they went to GB as LAMA and now went back to Prussia?20190623142220_1.thumb.jpg.d6ee86b20c5406fdc3ac19525808e31e.jpg

Well to be correct only like 7-15 people from LAMA were in Prussia before :) And the others are new and new to Prussia. But It's the same leadership. But I also think LAMA/KRAKE is stronger right now than it ever was at release or before release as HANSA :)

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Let's cut through the bullshit shall we. 

Russia did this, Swede's does that. Ok, fine; live with it. 

And let's be realistic, losing your ports is only half of the problem when it comes to the death of a nation. Internal politics is the other half as in the case of Prussia, VP, Spain, France, Pirates, etc, etc, etc. As when they lose important battles over important ports and the finger pointing and blame game begins it doesn't take long before the implosion begins. 

No one has clean hands, and frankly there has been a lot of constraint shown (More than I would of imagined) when it has come to crafting ports. 

Regardless, If you have issues with what Russia has done but see nothing wrong with what the Swedes have done and are doing, then you are a hypocrite. 

 

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@rediii why don't you just one(2)-port us while your at it?

Your goal here seems to be Exchangeing Dk-No's active pvp players for pve players am i right?

Well, i don't think Your split n' rule Master suppression techniques does surprise anyone. Still it doesn't really add to a healthy game enviroment.

But don't you worry, we will still be a clearly obvious thorne in Your eye, even or perhaps more so if you take all current dk-no ports.

 

And btw, since Sweden actually screened against you in the Battle that seamingly made Your glass overflow, why don't you switch nation again and one-port them as well?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Svennik said:

@rediii why don't you just one(2)-port us while your at it?

Your goal here seems to be Exchangeing Dk-No's active pvp players for pve players am i right?

Well, i don't think Your split n' rule Master suppression techniques does surprise anyone. Still it doesn't really add to a healthy game enviroment.

But don't you worry, we will still be a clearly obvious thorne in Your eye, even or perhaps more so if you take all current dk-no ports.

 

And btw, since Sweden actually screened against you in the Battle that seamingly made Your glass overflow, why don't you switch nation again and one-port them as well?

 

 

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He will the moment someone pays him enough

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21 minutes ago, Bryan Von Gyldenloeve said:

Neither is doing anything wrong. Plz show me where they break any game rule.

No where did I accuse anybody of any wrong doing game wise. I think you mistake me of accusing someone of wrongdoing with me pointing out that neither side has the moral high ground and pointing out hypocrisy when it comes to accusations being thrown about in this thread.

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3 hours ago, Anolytic said:

No. We never attacked Maracaibo while it was an important crafting port for CABAL. I cannot count how many times I had to explain some clan or player why we wouldn't attack Maracaibo. Once CABAL left the port, our calculation changed of course, because the significance of the port changed.

Russia took NO

Russia tried several times taking SJ

You want out crafting port. We all know that. :) And north is jumping around threatening anyone who doesnt play his game.

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3 minutes ago, rediii said:

Russia took NO

Russia tried several times taking SJ

You want out crafting port. We all know that. :) And north is jumping around threatening anyone who doesnt play his game.

You must mean my crafting port.....

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29 minutes ago, rediii said:

Russia took NO

Russia tried several times taking SJ

You want out crafting port. We all know that. :) And north is jumping around threatening anyone who doesnt play his game.

Russia took NO from Prussia

Sweden took SJ from DKN

Then Russia tried several times to take SJ from Sweden. 

There, fixed it for you.

And let me guess, you're argument is going to be that HAV0C took a HAVOC port. Which ok, you wanted your investment back. My issue has always been more on how and the way it was done rather than the port swap itself. But still doesn't change the fact that Sweden took SJ from DKN before Russia even attempted to attack it.

And now I guess we're going to see Sweden take Road Rocks and Spanish Town. I mean DKN lost a crafting port once, why not lose another one

Now, if you do want to use the  HAV0C taking a HAVOC port then let's reword your comment.

BF took NO

REDS tried several times taking SJ

You want our (HAV0C's) crafting port. :) And north is jumping around threatening anyone who doesnt play his game.

 

Regardless, neither side has the moral high ground as both powers are running rough shot over their neighbors and have for a while now. I just love the spin we put on things to justify our rational. 

 

 

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I seem to recall rediii and the HRE boys (pre-HAVOC days) attempting to take Bermuda away from the Russians.  There was even some questionable green on green that was used to get a certain clan into the battle up at Somerset.  I also recall VP - MONKS/CABAL/WO attempting to take the main pirate crafting port several months ago, basically over a fued.  Server police didn't really care much about that.  Point being, no one is blameless.  

Russia's the big bad guy, cool I get it.....but it would appear that everyone has a little blood on their hands.  Some have considerably more than the Russian nation I think.  As for crafting ports being lost.....welcome to Russia 2 years ago when the nation was introduced.   It's a war game and losing ones crafting hubs is intentionally a thing.  Get over it and move on.  Or don't, Fornite always needs more players.

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1 hour ago, Intrepido said:

What about Maracaibo?

Which are your excuses for attacking it? Is cause redii was dutch before the wipe? Are you going to flip it and donate Maracaibo to the poor?

I disagree with taking Maracaibo and powers at be knows full well what my opinion on that matter is. 

I speak for myself and voice my opinion, I will defend my actions, not that of the nation or clan. I have been there and done that. Way over rated. 

Plenty of stuff Russia has done I disagree with, and I voice my opinions on TS whenever it comes up or I get asked about it. I make no illusion that Russia has done things that were not to the betterment of the game but there isn't a single nation that hasn't at some point in the game. I know, there were quite a few things that I did when coordinating the GB-VP-US Alliance that were bad for the game, the worst being when I reduced Spain from 56 ports to 12 in 72 hours was a little too excessive and I admit that.

I get the outrage over Russia taking crafting ports to a certain extent. But where was the outrage from the same people when Sweden took San Juan? Where is the outrage from the same people about this very thread where Redii promises to take all DNP ports? Because last time I check, DNP has the only crafting ports in DKN. 

I mean hate Russia all you want to. But I find it hilarious with people using Russia actions to defend Swedish actions when they are doing exactly the same thing.

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1 hour ago, Intrepido said:

What about Maracaibo?

Which are your excuses for attacking it? Is cause redii was dutch before the wipe? Are you going to flip it and donate Maracaibo to the poor?

30 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

I'm not defending anyone, neither Russia or Sweden. 

Only quoting anolytic hypocrisy about the topic.

If that was the case then why ask me about Maracaibo? 

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This thread is highly entertaining and shows that everybody just wants an ez mode. While ppl talk about fights at the end, this is still a game of opportunity where you pray on the weaker. Politics or not, it comes down to that

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I give it 50/50 odds this whole thread is just rediii shitposting

Edit: 60/40

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16 minutes ago, BoatyMcBoatFace said:

This thread is highly entertaining and shows that everybody just wants an ez mode. While ppl talk about fights at the end, this is still a game of opportunity where you pray on the weaker. Politics or not, it comes down to that

No, no, no... people do want fights! But only fights they feel pretty certain they will win. 

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10 minutes ago, Bryan Von Gyldenloeve said:

Well that would be an argument if Havoc was the only one who invested in San Juan. Maybe you should ask the @rediii if any other clans put any investment in SJ. Ore it all was done by Havoc.

I already know the answer for the most part. 

That was sarcasm on my part. 

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