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[UPDATED] - 9/15/2019: Streamlined the chart display system. Now instead of updating every 5 minutes, the charts should update instantly. They should also be more friendly to mobile users.

Basic Idea:
The idea behind this is simple. You submit your buy/sell order using the google form. That info is then automatically processed in g-sheets and loaded to a website where anyone can view the items/ships up for sale, or crafters can see who is requesting which ships/item. When you use the google form, you are required to enter a 4 digit pin. Once the order is filled, you can go to the g-sheet, enter their pin, and the order is hidden and removed from the website.



Want to see whats been posted, or want to submit something yourself?

Take a look at the website (link below). Everything is easily accessed from there. 

Website Linkhttps://sites.google.com/view/namarketplace/home

Link to the google spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1M6aMs-mlMLpOG2nhZBXQycJOQYDTLNKX-BhMIHchM/edit?usp=sharing

Give it a try! Everything is ready to go. I currently cannot get in-game to advertise, so if you like this project, feel free to help spread the word.
I would suggest directing people to this post, or to the website itself.

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I think it's a great idea, the current situation has facilitated the acquisition of ships to those who cannot build them, an interactive system where orders and regulated deliveries can be made seems fantastic to me, but we must bear in mind that there is no guarantee that players will comply, implement a reliability system as in E-bay for example buyers and sellers can solve it over time, there will be those who want to take advantage and those who do not see it necessary, I give my approval for the effort that carried out :)

It can also be used as a global market, not only ships but offers for books, upgrades or crafting materials.

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52 minutes ago, EliteDelta said:

The idea behind this is simple. You submit your buy/sell order using the google form. That info is then automatically processed in g-sheets and loaded to a website where anyone can view the items up for sale, or crafters can see who is requesting which ships. Now a key aspect is what to do after the order is completed. I came up with a method for this, without forcing people to create some sort of account. When they use the google form, they are required to enter a 4 digit pin. Once the order is filled, they can go to the g-sheet, enter their pin, and the order is hidden and removed from the website. I think this could work, but we'll see if people end up being too destructive for it to function properly. Also even if someone forgets their pin, they can always PM me and I can do it manually. It will just save a lot of time and be much more efficient if even just 50% of the people can do it themselves. 

The thing the game are seriously lacking, that's proper announcement board for various news and orders to buy/sell/build/craft etc lasting between MT

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Dear its Not worth the Work. Only to know who has something to sell and agree in the price is only half the way. Then you need to meet up in the game. I think we all know the "hey, you online?" messages. Followed by the "im in Port xy now, where are you" ...

Nah ... better pay the market Fee in capital.

Just want to be honest, would be great If it would Work ...

 

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Try building a Buy and Sell website.  Use our NA mail to make offers and agree on meeting times etc.

Examples:

For Sale: Fir, Oak & Lignum Logs, Iron, Hemp, Coal and Stone.  Price negotiable.  Delivered to all ports in or near British shipping lanes.  Mail Macjim with your order.

Opportunity: Escort wanted for dangerous trade voyages.  Client offering Reals for daring captain to scout local British waters ahead of clients trade ship.  No experience required. Contact Macjim by mail for details.

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i like it, its like a buy / sell contract for specific ships, just like the game needs

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you mean

you miss the option to trade .... right .

perhaps a new market dlc will do the trick. (sorry i am out of coffee this morning )

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5 hours ago, Macjimm said:

Try building a Buy and Sell website.  Use our NA mail to make offers and agree on meeting times etc.

Examples:

For Sale: Fir, Oak & Lignum Logs, Iron, Hemp, Coal and Stone.  Price negotiable.  Delivered to all ports in or near British shipping lanes.  Mail Macjim with your order.

Opportunity: Escort wanted for dangerous trade voyages.  Client offering Reals for daring captain to scout local British waters ahead of clients trade ship.  No experience required. Contact Macjim by mail for details.

Well thats honestly what I've tried to do here.... Only difference is your example sounds more applicable to a forum post. I can definitely add a more broad submission system, but to start off I wanted to show how this could work for requesting or selling specific items and ship builds.

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6 hours ago, Gilles de Rais said:

Dear its Not worth the Work. Only to know who has something to sell and agree in the price is only half the way. Then you need to meet up in the game. I think we all know the "hey, you online?" messages. Followed by the "im in Port xy now, where are you" ...

Nah ... better pay the market Fee in capital.

Just want to be honest, would be great If it would Work ...

 

That's a fair point. What made me think of this was the game RuneScape back before they added a system called the GE. People would just stand around yelling what they were buying/selling for hours. Then a website where people could post buy/sell stuff came out, and started getting really popular. 

You never know, even solving half the problem might be useful :)

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I think this is a good idea, though, I think most big ticket items are traded this way more informally via announcements in Global, etc. But another mechanic, especially for ship orders makes a lot of sense, if it's flexible enough.  I'd support it but I do fear that the effort might not be rewarded with widespread use, but who knows?

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Yes it is a great idea, very good job btw.

I am just dreaming that these kind of things should be integrated into the game.

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The game is not perfect, when it comes to economy and trading, but I would prefer to have an ingame solution. Maybe you can get in contact with the devs and help them coding.

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@EliteDelta on your first doc, maybe make Port Bonus section to list all of them with levels like the Perm Mod Slots so we can choose our lowest bonus request/offered.

Well done, btw.

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37 minutes ago, Sea Archer said:

The game is not perfect, when it comes to economy and trading, but I would prefer to have an ingame solution. Maybe you can get in contact with the devs and help them coding.

The problem is that butly contracts for ships have been suggested many times, and never added. Also this allows people to avoid the frustration of paying the tax on buy contracts for modules. 

Yes the issue is you need to find the person to arrange a trade, but I think it's better than spamming global chat looking for a buyer/seller. 

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28 minutes ago, van der Clam said:

@EliteDelta on your first doc, maybe make Port Bonus section to list all of them with levels like the Perm Mod Slots so we can choose our lowest bonus request/offered.

Well don, btw.

Ah yes, Thank you. Looks like I left out PB bonuses on the final result, and yeah ill add it as an easy select option. 

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1 hour ago, EliteDelta said:

Ah yes, Thank you. Looks like I left out PB bonuses on the final result, and yeah ill add it as an easy select option. 

Looks great! I suspect a lot of orders coming in. Something like this really should be in game at a tavern billboard @admin :D

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24 minutes ago, van der Clam said:

Looks great! I suspect a lot of orders coming in. Something like this really should be in game at a tavern billboard @admin :D

 

 A port Billboard would be good for clan recruitment also, tbh am amazed hasn't been tried already.

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Updated the links on this forum post, didn't notice till now that I broke some of them along the way 😁

Also added sections for selling ships and buying/selling mods and books.

Everything should be nearly ready to be put to use, getting close :D

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Main post updated. I removed the poll, as it was extremely supportive, and also because I completed the original goal of the project while I waited :)

This system is ready to go, give it a try! 

I plan on building upon this idea if it ends up getting used, I can expand into several other sections, including resources/woods/etc.
Who knows, maybe I can even add a bounty system 🤔

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Can i see all ship offers that are for sale? Now i have to select a ship name, while.is just want to see all thats being offered

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7 minutes ago, Razee said:

Can i see all ship offers that are for sale? Now i have to select a ship name, while.is just want to see all thats being offered

Might have misunderstood a bit. You use the website to view whats available. Link - https://sites.google.com/view/namarketplace/auction-house
Currently nothing is there, as I just reset everything an hour ago to allow for real submissions.

I edited the descriptions of the links a bit to make it clearer. 

 

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I think that you might have started something good.

Consider allowing players to post some variability and use your site to make contact.  Include 'negotiable' as price and allow optional for almost all fields.

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10 hours ago, EliteDelta said:

Might have misunderstood a bit. You use the website to view whats available. Link - https://sites.google.com/view/namarketplace/auction-house
Currently nothing is there, as I just reset everything an hour ago to allow for real submissions.

I edited the descriptions of the links a bit to make it clearer. 

 

Your "Need to remove your listing?" should also say something like "See entire buy/sell listing here: Data Sheet" so ppl know that is the same sheet to remove a current listing and to see all.

I think this is what confused Razee.

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2 minutes ago, van der Clam said:

Your "Need to remove your listing?" should also say something like "See entire buy/sell listing here: Data Sheet" so ppl know that is the same sheet to remove a current listing and to see all.

I think this is what confused Razee.

I'm pretty sure he found the submission form, because thats the only place you have to select a ship. Anyway, you have a good point, i'll update the description. 

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Update: Streamlined the chart display system. Now instead of updating every 5 minutes, the charts should update instantly. They should also be more friendly to
mobile users.

Also embedded the two forms into the website, creating less pages you need to jump between.

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