NPC Port Battles Explained. War server and Peace server information

[Apl]

Don't forget to put a couple of deadman chast in each indiaman to make some jelous ppl more salty then now 😃

[Captain2Strong]

16 minutes ago, Tac said:

if the boredom of a PVE port battle that may destroy their will to live is going to happen we need to know when to take our medication

 

or you could just avoid the things which force you to take it!

14 minutes ago, AeRoTR said:

You guys trying hard to make us quit the game ?

yes.
it took you a bit long to realise about that!

[Cetric de Cornusiac]

Just now, Immersive Ganking said:

Port Battle against NPC thanks all you who play on Peace Server to bring this bullshit feature to War Scerver.

What players of PvE server have to do  with decisions of devs to bring new content to your server?

And the changes for us are good ones.

Control your aggressions better, mate.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Cetric de Cornusiac

[Cetric de Cornusiac]

Just now, Immersive Ganking said:

Fighting against NPC is not content

It sure is.

[Teutonic]

the most hilarious thing to come from this is the thought that all nations will now try their hardest to "not" be the 3 top nations that the NPCs target :P.

 

[Batnavo]

Just now, Cetric de Cornusiac said:

It sure is.

on PVE server

[Tac]

Just now, Teutonic said:

the most hilarious thing to come from this is the thought that all nations will now try their hardest to "not" be the 3 top nations that the NPCs target :P.

 

You really couldn't make it up could you

 

[Raekur]

10 minutes ago, Razee said:

And i thought raids would be that a group of players got some random raid assigned to attack/raid a port without capturing it..i guess i was wrong..

This is not a raid, this is cheating AI capping ports aka a pve portbattle..

@admin what will happen with te pb when a port gets capped? Will they be back if we take it back?

I swear if my crafting port gets taken by cheating AI, im not gonna retake and rebuild it im just gonna quit the game.

As will a lot of players, takes ages to fully up crafting ports, if people lose it most wont wanna invest all that time and effort again, they will just quit, and so will i

 

My guess is that once the port is captured it loses one level of each improvement, this will drop that port from the highest developed port position until it is recaptured and built back up again. While this idea sounds interesting, fielding 2 large groups of first rates to do it might be a bit much for some to be able to defend against, this is compounded by inviting hostile nations to participate by preventing the defenders from being able to engage the raiders. GB for instance is already losing ground due to the constant daily raids and now we have to worry that a fleet of 20 1st rates are going to sail in and take the port making it open for anyone to capture it during the night. I don't think this new feature was fully thought out on just how it will impact some nations.

[Captain2Strong]

Just now, Teutonic said:

the most hilarious thing to come from this is the thought that all nations will now try their hardest to "not" be the 3 top nations that the NPCs target :P.

 

it is indeed very hilarious, but it is not the most hilarious.

[Despe]

4 minutes ago, Cetric de Cornusiac said:

What players of PvE server have to do  with decisions of devs to bring new content to your server?

This is no content in PvP server. Content in PvP server is a new PvP mechanic, not more PvE headaches. Im in PvP server for making PvP, not for waste my time in VC waiting for NPCs.

[Botq]

Just now, Despe said:

This is no content in PvP server. Content in PvP server is a new PvP mechanic, not more PvE headaches. Im in PvP server for making PvP, not for waste my time in VC waiting for NPCs.

If u want pvp dont play most populated nation, problem solved

[Angus MacDuff]

2 minutes ago, Raekur said:

a fleet of 20 1st rates

He said line ships, not 1st rates.  I suspect it will be a mix of 1st - 3rd rates.

[Captain2Strong]

17 minutes ago, Graf Bernadotte said:

Not sure that it is worth to be defended against AI anymore.

 

it is indeed unworthy of being done

[Despe]

3 minutes ago, o7Captain said:

If u want pvp dont play most populated nation, problem solved

When i join Russia most population nation was brits. And the faction player is not the issue in this post, sorry.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Despe

[admin]

45 minutes ago, Despe said:

Making the pvp server on pve server, i think is not a good idea. Make a mechanic that allows players make raiders is a interesting idea, but NPCs? I think that this will not work and will be so bored.

there is no pvp on the pve server. all raids, defenses and recaptures and hostility on the Peace server will be pve vs neutral nation

[Magallanes]

1 hour ago, admin said:

Smaller nations can attack other ports during the raid times and take them undefended

No. Just we can do hostilitiy missions at same time ... Because we need two mechanisms to take a port (hostility and port battle) 

[Despe]

1 minute ago, admin said:

there is no pvp on the pve server. all raids, defenses and recaptures and hostility will be pve vs neutral nation

My english is bad, sorry, Maybe i explain bad what i think. I want to say, and a lot of players think and said the same in this post, is that this new mechanic is wrong. We want PvP mechanics, not PvE, please.

[Cetric de Cornusiac]

Just now, Batnavo said:

on PVE server

No, on both. You just have  to leave your "immersive ganking" bubble  for a moment. PvE content has been on your server for years. Is it really possible you missed this fact for so long?

[shunt]

since admin doesnt want to say  does anyone know how much notice of an attack we get ??

 

[Despe]

Just now, Cetric de Cornusiac said:

No, on both. You just have  to leave your "immersive ganking" bubble  for a moment. PvE content has been on your server for years. Is it really possible you missed this fact for so long?

In PvP server we have not mandatory PvE content. I dont make PvE if i dont like me, i can choose. But this new mechanic is mandatory PvE mechanic in a PvP server. Totally wrong in my opinion.

[Jorge]

1 hour ago, admin said:

Captains 

NPC have gathered all pain they experienced since launch and decided to fight back. 
Here is some information on the NPC port battle raids that will help you prepare so you dont lose ports on first events.

War Server

Preparation

1. Raiders will only attack on weekends
2. Raiders will only attack most developed ports of top 3 nations (mix of investments and tax rate)
3. Raiders will ignore all other nations
4. Raiders will only attack within the timer (if no timer is present they will attack at random time)
5. Raider attacks for today will be indicated on map tool in port battle list
6. Raiders will always pick the proper wind for attack
7. Raiders know how to fit the ships and will be very combat worthy
8. If raiders win the battle port becomes neutral. 

Battle

1. Raider fleet usually will consist of 16-20 Lineships(escort) and 4-6 indiaman (transports) and will split into 2 groups attacking from 2 directions
2. To win the battle raiders will need to gain 1000 points
3. Raiders get the points by controlling the control points AND by reaching the control points
4. Transports get A LOT of points for reaching the circle - currently 250-300
5. Escort get some points for reaching the circle - currently 25-50
6. All Raiders also get standard points for staying in the circle
7. Raiders will not fire at forts
8. Points cannot go down but you can slow down the point generation or avoid it by stopping the ships trying to reach the control points
9. Optimal strategy in internal testing was found to be the following
   1. Destroy Indiamans as soon as possible and slow down the escorts later destroying them with focus fire one by one
   2. Create two groups (and maybe one in reserve) as if one raider group reaches the control zone intact they will win the raid
   3. Main Groups should prefer to join the raid far at sea (far from pier) because if groups join from pier they sometimes will NOT have enough time to stop the raiders from reaching the control points 
      1. having said that joining from pier is also possible but not in all scenarios (depend on port)
   4. Reserve group can join from pier and provide support at danger points.
   5. Joining far at sea has risks of its own because of potential enemy screens

Defending the raids could become an interesting logistical and organizational task if enemy is present (meta)

Meta gameplay

1. Smaller nations (especially acting together) can completely stop defenders from joining the raid by screening forcing them to lose invested ports (david vs goliaf scenarios)
2. Smaller nations can attack other ports during the raid times and take them undefended

For Peace Server

1. Raiders will attack random ports turning them neutral
2. Hostility will be enabled for neutral ports so clans can capture the ports for themselves
3. Raiders will also attack developed ports from time to time 
4. This will achieve the following amazing outcome for the Peace server
   1. Both PVE port defense and attacks become possible
   2. Port investments become possible (including port bonuses)
   3. Port clan control and taxation becomes possible
       

Really bad idea... I must say is a big shit. 

We have real life at weekends.... 

Edited September 6, 2019 by Jorge

[Vernon Merrill]

11 minutes ago, o7Captain said:

If u want pvp dont play most populated nation, problem solved

I’m glad SOMEBODY finally figured out what this mechanic was all about....

Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t most games, especially MMOs, have decay mechanics?   

Hell, even in DayZ, your loot decays steadily and anything you bury is deleted if you don’t use it after like 3 weeks.   

This feature wouldn’t even be a big deal if it were part of a previous patch and we weren’t waiting for PVP raids.  

[Batnavo]

9 minutes ago, Louis Garneray said:

One thing that come to mind is for example in some nation the crafting ports are not regional capital, which mean that they have no timer... Which means that WE now need to add timer to avoid being attacked by AI raiders while we sleep?

Some of them don't even have forts...

[Sea Archer]

Do I understand this correctly? You cannot screen, AI will suddenly appear in port and start the battle?

I understood that everything is done on war server to increase pvp (even this 20min timer), now we are forced to fight ai. I understand that you want to keep the big nation busy, to take some pressure from the smaller, but I don't think it is the right way to turn ports neutral when loosing the battle. If its a raid, AI should take half of all players items in the warehouses and from clan warehouse, but never capture the port.

We will see how it works....

It will be an event only for the vet players, that have big ships and can crew them.

[Serk]

23 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

the most hilarious thing to come from this is the thought that all nations will now try their hardest to "not" be the 3 top nations that the NPCs target :P.

 

We can expect many useless ports to be abandoned and turned neutral within the first server maintenance ^^