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2 minutes ago, John Cavanaugh said:

Big words but you let me T board your constitution with a Herc :D

My average skills no enough, i can kill only haci. Everyone know it.

Sorry i dont know how are you, but i think better then me in pvp anyway, if you write it. It is ok, I'm not going to dispute this.

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4 hours ago, DreamMaker said:

In most cases, Goebbels didn’t lie :) Like you ofc.. you say "SORRY never did a 25v25 against any clan period". it is true, but it is also a lie, as a separate phrase taken out of context, you are good at using such tricks. You cant understand it, because your intellect is only enough for talk about "i will ez crash russian zerg, bat player with average skills ez kill me", go lear win players with average skills before. 

P.S. why you think what i keep atleast 1 screen with battle vs you?

Hehe. You really cannot comprehend what is going on around you :)

Right now you feel pretty smart but you have no idea how stupid that post just made you look. 

I never said sorry never lost a 25v25 port battle. I said that lord vicious said sorry never lost a 25v25 port battle. I was mocking lv.

That screenshot proves nafing. Its 24 sorry. Show me 1 screenshot of sorry loosing a 25v25 port battle, You see what I did there? 

You say I am good at using tricks but there is no tricks. My posts in national news are nothing more than  random nonsense. If you confuse nonsense with tricks you are really lost. 

I use words like smash and trash because they are funny stupid and nonsensical. Notice how mad North viking and yourself get when I say it though? You get triggered. It works and even if I tell people I'm trolling them they still take offense.

Have you ever noticed that noone actually argues with me about the shit I say? Maybe it's because they all get it and you and staun don't. 

 

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4 hours ago, John Cavanaugh said:

My neck is not red, Massa lets me work inside 

damn, I was really hoping you would give me a long speech explaining your point again because I did not read what you said. Damn you get me bra.

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Did some thinking about possible reasons for the decline of the game.  I think that the game fails in one key area;

--  The game needs to be fun for people of all skill levels. --

That doesn't mean that skill level shouldn't determine who wins an engagement, of course it should.  But all skill levels and ranks must have a role to play or things get boring and frustrating fast.  Expecting many people to suffer through a hundred hours of getting sunk by better players in better ships within ten minutes of leaving the capital zone is just silly.  Most people won't stick around long enough to "get gud". 

And even the people who don't "get gud" enough should be able to have fun.  Think of the difference between these two scenarios;

1) Player sails out of Shroud Cay into the patrol zone.  Enters a 3 v 3 battle, fires some guns, takes a few hits, expends some adrenaline, participates in some team conversations, gets sunk and winds up in Shroud with both experience points and experience.

2) Player sails out of Shroud Cay toward the patrol zone.  Gets jumped behind the island by six players who taunt him while sinking him in five minutes.  He winds up back in Shroud pissed off as hell, having gained nothing except a desire to leave a bad review and deinstall the game.

The players in scenario 2 don't seem to realize that they are eating their seed corn.  They will wail about a lack of content, watch the game decline and blame everything but their short-sighted egotism.  It is the same as if WoW allowed level 20 characters to PvP in the lower level areas.  Pretty soon there wouldn't be any new level 20 characters, everyone getting tired of getting their head pounded into the ground while being told to "get gud". 

Human nature being what it is you won't end scenario 2 without game mechanics.  Some have been proposed; Ranked level zones, no exp for gank-level kills, etc...  Till some way of allowing the average players to participate in the game, the game will decline.

As anyone who has fought against me will testify, I'm an average player.  My skills won't wow anyone.  Until recently I still enjoyed the game but find myself logging in less and less.  Opportunities for anything but getting ganked four-to-one are few.  Its become frustrating and boring.  

Forum is still fun though.  Hope it continues after the servers are shut down next year.  :)

Vinnie

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on a brighter side, two of us US players left Shroud Cay last night, came across an enemy, and had a delightful pre-battle conversation with him while we waited for an ally of his to show us and have an equal fight, which was a lot of fun. We could have ganked him, but it was more fun to choose to wait for more equal odds. We need to model the behavior we seek in others...

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30 minutes ago, Preechur Blackheart said:

on a brighter side, two of us US players left Shroud Cay last night, came across an enemy, and had a delightful pre-battle conversation with him while we waited for an ally of his to show us and have an equal fight, which was a lot of fun. We could have ganked him, but it was more fun to choose to wait for more equal odds. We need to model the behavior we seek in others...

100% agree, I've had lots of fun conversations with opposing players in the game.  I miss open-world conversations, those have been fun too, very few abusive.  For a MMOG the population is unusually civil overall.  One day I was in a Requim (which I can't sail for shit) when engaged by an expert in the same (Latron I believe).  He spent 15 minutes giving me lessons before sinking me.  A gentleman and a sailor.  Not often you hear someone say "now shoot at this part of my mast"...

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2 hours ago, HachiRoku said:

damn, I was really hoping you would give me a long speech explaining your point again because I did not read what you said. Damn you get me bra.

The Irishman didn’t read

color me shocked

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16 minutes ago, Vinnie said:

100% agree, I've had lots of fun conversations with opposing players in the game.  I miss open-world conversations, those have been fun too, very few abusive.  For a MMOG the population is unusually civil overall.  One day I was in a Requim (which I can't sail for shit) when engaged by an expert in the same (Latron I believe).  He spent 15 minutes giving me lessons before sinking me.  A gentleman and a sailor.  Not often you hear someone say "now shoot at this part of my mast"...

interesting, becuase I think @Latron actually despises the requin :P. He much prefer's his Mercury or Pickle.

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3 minutes ago, John Cavanaugh said:

The Irishman didn’t read

color me shocked

That's racist and I am offended. #StrongerTogether 

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18 minutes ago, HachiRoku said:

That's racist and I am offended. #StrongerTogether 

On one hand I want to point out that micks benefit from Hwite privilege and therefore I can’t be racist towards the Irish. 

On the other hand the Irish aren’t really white. 

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38 minutes ago, John Cavanaugh said:

On one hand I want to point out that micks benefit from Hwite privilege and therefore I can’t be racist towards the Irish. 

On the other hand the Irish aren’t really white. 

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3 hours ago, HachiRoku said:

 

Why you so stupid. This is exactly what I wanted to show. You are talking about 25x25, using the effect of incomplete truth. Because if we say about 25x24 in really it is equally 25x25, but it gives you the opportunity to interpret the whole situation differently, you cry: "it was not 25x25 - it is no dont mind nothing!". Smart ppl can understand what you just say trash. You are also talking about the effect of modules on pvp, but you dont say what you have better modules it this pvp then me , you say: "you waste 20 mins for demast me" but don’t talk about what just run all this 20 mins. Partial truth - all that you have. These crumbs are the truth you manipulate to change public mind. 

IF you wanna full truth: 1) sorry cant win 25x25, not because they has less ppl, just because they were afraid fight 25x25. The story of Sorry ended at the moment when they were forced to fight 25x25
2) You cant win 1v1 not because i have better ship or better modules, just because you cannot use what you have well enough. 

But you cannot lose everything and claim that you are wrong. Because the forum for you = life. That’s all you have left. Classic forumfighter, go talk more about your "partial truth" and my english skills, you cant do more.

P.S. I sobered up and the more you are not interesting to me. The conversation is over :D  

Edited by DreamMaker

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24 minutes ago, Immersive Ganking said:

Not really hard to stay behind a ship that has a turnrate of 2.1 while sailing a Herc. You would get smashed by Hachi on equal sized ships.

the combination of you inability to read a conversation (it was not hachi i boarded but dream, thanks to his not having DD and sitting still to better snipe, and IIRC i had only 2 masts left at that point), nor tone (he LET me board him, eg his making a mistake not me being good) and the fact that you think Hachi isn't over rated trash who lost every Vic that Otto ever gave him, leads me to believe you are either new player who reads forum too much, or donner alt account.

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5 minutes ago, John Cavanaugh said:

the combination of you inability to read a conversation (it was not hachi i boarded but dream, thanks to his not having DD and sitting still to better snipe, and IIRC i had only 2 masts left at that point), nor tone (he LET me board him, eg his making a mistake not me being good) and the fact that you think Hachi isn't over rated trash who lost every Vic that Otto ever gave him, leads me to believe you are either new player who reads forum too much, or donner alt account.

maybe u will say your game nickname? It is interested for me, who was win me 1v1 herk vs conny

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1 minute ago, DreamMaker said:

maybe u will say your game nickname? It is interested for me, who was win me 1v1 herk vs conny

never said it was 1vs1 :P it was Old Man Cavanaugh. a surprise joined mid way through. you shoot away my mast quickly but stay still too long with no Determined Defender. lucky for me

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7 hours ago, DreamMaker said:

Why you so stupid. This is exactly what I wanted to show. You are talking about 25x25, using the effect of incomplete truth. Because if we say about 25x24 in really it is equally 25x25, but it gives you the opportunity to interpret the whole situation differently, you cry: "it was not 25x25 - it is no dont mind nothing!". Smart ppl can understand what you just say trash. You are also talking about the effect of modules on pvp, but you dont say what you have better modules it this pvp then me , you say: "you waste 20 mins for demast me" but don’t talk about what just run all this 20 mins. Partial truth - all that you have. These crumbs are the truth you manipulate to change public mind. 

IF you wanna full truth: 1) sorry cant win 25x25, not because they has less ppl, just because they were afraid fight 25x25. The story of Sorry ended at the moment when they were forced to fight 25x25
2) You cant win 1v1 not because i have better ship or better modules, just because you cannot use what you have well enough. 

But you cannot lose everything and claim that you are wrong. Because the forum for you = life. That’s all you have left. Classic forumfighter, go talk more about your "partial truth" and my english skills, you cant do more.

P.S. I sobered up and the more you are not interesting to me. The conversation is over :D  

Lacking common sense and being drunk are 2 different things. 

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This game seems to be made by and for an inbred elite community. Killing the other small nations leaves boredom in the end. So what to do? Make the game a little bit more difficult for the elitarians. No one cares about new Players and noobs.. why should one.. the game is made by the droogs for the droogs.

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38 minutes ago, tristan0731 said:

This game seems to be made by and for an inbred elite community. Killing the other small nations leaves boredom in the end. So what to do? Make the game a little bit more difficult for the elitarians. No one cares about new Players and noobs.. why should one.. the game is made by the droogs for the droogs.

well you cannot design a game to be more difficult for the elite and easier for new players. You can only reduce the bonuses they get from grinding. The skill gap will always exist since this game is fundamentally an extremely skill based game. That is one of the best parts of naval action. I do attack the game for being less skill based than it was because now we have kit on top of the skill but the skill element is still in the game. Its just overshadowed by mods etc. 

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7 minutes ago, HachiRoku said:

well you cannot design a game to be more difficult for the elite and easier for new players. You can only reduce the bonuses they get from grinding. The skill gap will always exist since this game is fundamentally an extremely skill based game. That is one of the best parts of naval action. I do attack the game for being less skill based than it was because now we have kit on top of the skill but the skill element is still in the game. Its just overshadowed by mods etc. 

actually you could: it's called handicap (like in golf). In example: the higher the PVP kills (or K/D ratio) the more a handicap affects one random ships' stat. 

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39 minutes ago, toblerone said:

actually you could: it's called handicap (like in golf). In example: the higher the PVP kills (or K/D ratio) the more a handicap affects one random ships' stat. 

well that is not fair and competitive games are generally suppose be fair. K/D ratio has little to do with skill. You can have a K/D ratio of 10:1 from killing noobs all day or a K/D ratio of 1:1 from competitive gameplay. There are a handfull of players on this server that have been on the leaderboards many times that I personally would not consider good at all. More PVP kills just means you play more. Anyway that doesnt matter anyway since there are many other issues that could reduce the problem before even considering artificail handicaps in a lite sim. 

I remember playing COD4, a game that had a K/D ratio and players often judged skill by it. The issue I however noticed that when I played domination or team deathmatch my K/D ratio would increase towards 2 yet when I played search and destroy it would become on average far lower. To be fair I only noticed it changing on alts because my main had 30000 or 50000 kills i believe. The reason for that is search and destroy was played more tactically and by better players overall. K/D ratios are the worst thing to add to games if your goal is to create good gameplay. Battlefield players that play Rush the way it is suppost to be played will have a far lower K/D ratio than a player that only snipes and does nothing meaningful. I remember having a K/D ratio of 1.40 in BF3 yet a win loose ratio of 3:00. Its because we went balls deep to get the charge planted and just didn't give a shit. 

There is absolutely no possible way to fairly design a system that balances gameplay and every player there is will quite if you did so. Even the noobs because noobs like killing newer noobs. 

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Just for information, it seems that Russia (NN clan), sent a Diktat to France.

Either France accepts to become a pupet for NN, or NN attack the only French crafting port: Bridgestone.

France seems likely to refuse, but I am not a French diplomat anymore, I let them take their decision.

According to @Celtiberofrog, Spain did accept a similar "arrangement"...

 

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2 hours ago, Aquillas said:

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Either France accepts to become a pupet for NN, or NN attack the only French crafting port: Bridgestone.

...

 

Pffft.

 

Yours Truly,
All of France.

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