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5 hours ago, HamBlower said:

Pit, we know each other for a long time and I have big respect for your playing style and for your fairness in the past.

Now you declare "total war against sweden". I even don't want to do anything to prevent this, I don't care. 

In both nations are players who are mainly attacking each other as direct neighbours. It's easy, it's a short way. So what, I'm playing on PVP Server. As I tried to achief a "PVP-safe-Zone" (as speaker of swedish council, and against my own conviction) it was Denmark that rejeceted such an agreement.  

If you need this symbol in declaring such a "total war" do what you want.

We don't care, things will happen as they should

"it was Denmark that rejeceted such an agreement."

Nope. We actually accepted it but got no response from sweden. The only clan that didn't agreed with that was DNP and we suggested a deal without DNP. :) 

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2 hours ago, Teutonic said:

hello kittying lol.

When sweden first came to denmark to ask them to stop the pvp farm so we could work together against Russia.

Denmark replied "no."

So we swedes did as your nation suggested. We decided to start OW pvp on your nation at all times that we did not fight together against Russia.

The response we got was "please stop attacking us, the real enemy is Russia."

Two words.

Hypocrits.

Weak.

same here, nope. Denmark was open for that deal, sweden didn't reply anymore after we proposed the deal without DNP

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1 hour ago, Potemkin said:

I only saw your response as a manifestation of your lack of balls (in a video game nonetheless), rampant paranoia, and a grossly bloated sense of in-game national importance. I guess you could toss arrogance in there too with your "lack of education in the US" comment as well. I am amused.

ok....amused or drunken?

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also pit wen du keine weiteren problenme hast hast du echt ein armseliges leben und noch ein tip denk an dein herz 🤣🤣🤣

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21 minutes ago, Staunberg said:

DNP said no to an OW agrement, simply because it wont work. We tried that with the polish, trust me we took a lot of shit on that account, even if we where the only clan that did RvR at that time in Dk-Ng.

It simply didnt hold and every day, either a polish ore a dane complained abouth somebody killed them. It got so bad that the polish even protected havoc(when Gb) when they did hostillity to flip Fajardo.

You do understand unlike with the Poles, who it was stupid to even make an agreement with those flakes, Sweden was not asking for a complete no PvP OW agreement right? If it was a complete no PvP ow agreement I would side with your opinion that it should not be accepted on the premise of the difficulty in maintaining such an agreement. 

1 hour ago, rediii said:

same here, nope. Denmark was open for that deal, Sweden didn't reply anymore after we proposed the deal without DNP

Without all the major parties involved which Sweden was able to achieve yet Danmark failed to do, there was not going to be an agreement able to be maintained. Sweden would have lived up the agreement as long as it could tolerating for a time DNP attacks around our crafting and capital waters, but it would only tolerate for so long before everything crumbled. You know that. 

 

 

Sweden played ball and did not aggressively go against Danmark early after release focusing more on building up against Russia and giving space for our neighbors to move crafting material as unhindered as possible. Danmark did not share the same methods in return. Sweden then proceeded with a diplomatic route which was on every account faltered by not all of Danmark coming into agreement. During this time we continuously would help Danmark against Russia via screens and other means.  Seeing that there was no agreement that was going to be compromised upon we dropped the diplomatic route and just accepted they would want open world PvP. We proceeded to do so and then Danish clans became upset. Sorry but we are not the United States or Great Britain. Sweden will not and is not going to sit idle and be farmed in such a manner. 

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, VirtuallyIdiotic said:

You do understand unlike with the Poles, who it was stupid to even make an agreement with those flakes, Sweden was not asking for a complete no PvP OW agreement right? If it was a complete no PvP ow agreement I would side with your opinion that it should not be accepted on the premise of the difficulty in maintaining such an agreement. 

Without all the major parties involved which Sweden was able to achieve yet Danmark failed to do, there was not going to be an agreement able to be maintained. Sweden would have lived up the agreement as long as it could tolerating for a time DNP attacks around our crafting and capital waters, but it would only tolerate for so long before everything crumbled. You know that. 

 

 

Sweden played ball and did not aggressively go against Danmark early after release focusing more on building up against Russia and giving space for our neighbors to move crafting material as unhindered as possible. Danmark did not share the same methods in return. Sweden then proceeded with a diplomatic route which was on every account faltered by not all of Danmark coming into agreement. During this time we continuously would help Danmark against Russia via screens and other means.  Seeing that there was no agreement that was going to be compromised upon we dropped the diplomatic route and just accepted they would want open world PvP. We proceeded to do so and then Danish clans became upset. Sorry but we are not the United States or Great Britain. Sweden will not and is not going to sit idle and be farmed in such a manner. 

You have no idea who let build up who here my dude

anyway, sweden has only american players left it seems according to the timers.

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5 minutes ago, Staunberg said:

Sweden would not be able to uphold it. 

And Danmark the same. But without giving it a chance you never know for certain. 

6 minutes ago, rediii said:

You have no idea who let build up who here my dude

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1 hour ago, Georg Fromm said:

ok....amused or drunken?

Both when i get out of work

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SWEden vs DENmark

sweDEN vs denMARK

😯

 

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"Oy, You GAZPROMs!" Our harmless and peacefully flower picking Pirate Frigate was attacked by these villains just off port Marigot. What shall I say…? "Tut das Not, Werner?"

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This could in fact be interesting.

Our nation was repressed and our progress stunted by your nations players pretty much from first week of release.

Our nation supported you by screening for your nation and they came back to  their ports to be farmed immediately and Swedish players were even being attacked and farmed during the screening by your nation players.

Now you want to appear to be all bent out of shape that we no longer are going to take the abusive behaviour of our neighbours to the east of us and north attacking us every day?

Be very careful about what you declare and the bridges you burn as Karma she is a bitch . Sweden has survived waaaay more than you could ever bring to bear on it and is still there.

You better hope Russia doesn't take a renewed interest in your nation, as you would be inviting that as you would be weakened at the very least by fighting us and would never survive fighting both nations same time.

Better you take a vacation and rethink your obviously not well thought out declaration of total war as all that has happened has been due to your nations actions. Have a nation help you screen then your nation players  attack it during and after pffft give your head a shake with your false reporting of Sweden is wronging you.

Your trying to find an excuse to extend the attacks to make it look good your fooling no one.

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Snoopy said:

Fighting? On the WAR Server? This is unheard of!

nothing wrong with fighting at all. In fact there has been more fighting between the two groups then ever before. The difference is it is not fighting out of enjoyment for conflict in the game, but rather a continuous breakdown of a friendly relationship turned sour due to the feeling of getting the short stick.

But please, lets not kids ourselves when the following happened.

1. Sweden and Denmark create an RvR agreement and agree to help each other in a larger effort o fight Russia. the RvR agreement from both nations councils still stands from Sweden's PoV.

2. There are 1-2 occasions where Rediii/HAVOC ask for assistance in some Screening. We agree and I believe both nations enjoy sinking Russians

3. There is no exact date, but as the game gains some population and old dogs come back Sweden as a whole starts to notice more Danes within and around the Capital area sinking Swedes. We are told "OW PvP is open, part of the game." There are very little complaints about this, PvP is the main part of this game, or so it is at least geared to it.

4. The issue comes when we have Danes attacking our players at the same time that Denmark is asking for help. There are multiple reports of Danes sinking our players "at home" literally while we have a screen fleet helping them fight the Russians. Sweden questions this and goes to ask Denmark what's up.

5. We are informed that there are some clans in Denmark who don't follow other clans. That's fine you can't have 100% with current game mechanics.

 

It's at this point we consider a possible Limited PvP Agreement with Denmark. 

The areas in Question was literally the space between Fort Baai, Philips, OJ, and Gustavia. a small square in between those ports. Sweden believe we could do the same with Denmark, allowing all space in-between Frederickstad, Chrsitainstad, Coral Bay and Amelianborg. Both these areas would be void of PvP for both sides.

The intention was for any newer player or veteran with little left after fights or losing ships, could enjoy sinking the small 5th and 6th rates that spawn around the capital in a peaceful mindset that at least either of our nations would not attack each other. For whatever reason, that wasn't good enough. 

6. This is where Sweden as a whole decides "since it seems we can't come to a PvP agreement, Sweden will now start OW PvP effort in Denmark waters too, if they do it to us, we can do it to them.

 

After that, I don't know how the hello kitty you get to "rah rah, Sweden is mean and we are the victims." You told us to HTFU, i'll tell Denmark to HTFU.

so Sweden now enjoys OW PvP on the entire map and apparently Denmark doesn't enjoy getting the same treatment they gave Sweden.

 

AND to top it all off, Sweden still wants no part in a Port Battle conflict against Denmark. Our council has brought it up multiple times and all the clans have continued to agree to not do that because it's not helpful for either side.

So I'm literally baffled that Clans in Denmark take offense to the Ow PvP that goes on against them that they did to Sweden. Sweden follows their own's council decision, much to the irritation of clans within sometimes.

 

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Sounds like DK and Sweden just need to kiss and get it over with already.  Or fight...off the forums.  Though if you kiss, @Potemkin and I want to watch.  We're kinda into that sort of thing.

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Danish war reaches new dimension !!!

 

Well-known Danish captains harm the Swedish economy by using specially crafted ships to engage the 15.5 Kn fast Traders-Lynx of the PVE player Duke Jakob von Kettler in up to 70 minutes of combat. The Swedish economy was thereby thrown back in its development in the year !! Incredible!! The NPCs then gave the Gazprom activists of the Danes a great gift because the Duke was prevented from attacking them! Incredible!!

 

Jakob

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This thread starts making less and less sense, it also is a tiny bit pathetic..

Even the title..a blood eagle? Geez how old are you guys

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Swedes and Danish are too lazy. For PvP, they attack their next opponent - their neighbours.

The leaders of the Swedes and Danes should rather think about which ports you can use in front of the Russia to visit Ivan.

You can't make attacks on Russia dependent on if "Reverse" open Russia Ports or not !

 

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20 minutes ago, Razee said:

This thread starts making less and less sense, it also is a tiny bit pathetic..

Even the title..a blood eagle? Geez how old are you guys

This thread was useless from the first post. 

 

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