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2 minutes ago, Borch said:

What else is it about then?

pvp and having fun :) also the pb you are talking about is scheduled today and created on thursday thats not a weekend day

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Nation should have been kept to France, Spain, Britain, and the Pirates in the Middle.

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2 hours ago, Floki Vilgerdarson said:

A pitty. Our clan was keen on fighting Danes. Does this mean there are no more Danes that we can fight, without breaking agreements? 😕 

You can fight any Dane you want. There is no PvP agreements. Few of the minor non-HAVOC supporting clans refused to agree to a very small non-PvP zone so it's open season.

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41 minutes ago, KuroNyra said:

Nation should have been kept to France, Spain, Britain, and the Pirates in the Middle.

And dutch. But yes, why the hell do we have 11 nations with this low playerbase?

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Wtf I thought this was supposed to be the russia hate-thread

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To all the captains,

who dont want to fight RVR vs a Zerg, but want big and equal battles:

 

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Clans from Britain and Pirates have already started to defect to the Russian cause. Seems like a trend. People want to be on the side that's winning, or who has the most ports. It sucks but most if them will get bored and leave the game soon. 

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35 minutes ago, HoneyBaddger said:

Clans from Britain and Pirates have already started to defect to the Russian cause. Seems like a trend. People want to be on the side that's winning, or who has the most ports. It sucks but most if them will get bored and leave the game soon. 

The area near Veracruz is a very dangerous place. Cities will be further open. Moreover, this is just the beginning.
In New Orleans, access to the craft will not be given to anyone - which means it will not be possible to craft good ships

Welcome to the Russian Empire. The Baltic Fleet is pleased to welcome everyone!

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26 minutes ago, HoneyBaddger said:

Clans from Britain and Pirates have already started to defect to the Russian cause. Seems like a trend. People want to be on the side that's winning, or who has the most ports. It sucks but most if them will get bored and leave the game soon. 

Well the issue really is that there is little to no incentive to NOT be in the more powerful nations like Russia or Dutch.  They run little risk of losing ports, have tons of players for defense....eco is all setup in multiple locations.  Let's use pirates as a counter example.  Main player crafting hub is 1 region removed from being directly attacked.  Capital is 5-10 mins sail from a freetown.  20-30mins sail from either Shroud or LT puts you into the heart of pirate crafting.  Sweden and France are in similar predicaments if not worse, their capitals are right next to their crafting and players sink every 10mins or so.  Why stay?  National pride?  There's no special perks for being in a more difficult or smaller nation.  No special pirate mechanics.  With the addition of higher port BRs the game is even more supportive of the zerg nation style gameplay.  

HAVOC is fighting the good fight over in Daneland, but it's an uphill and probably a losing battle in the long run.  They get screened out half the time it seems.  What's their reward or incentive in not being apart of a zerg?  Being screened out....risk of losing all their crafting...player frustration and apathy.  For what?  Street cred?   Why bother.

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5 minutes ago, Severus Snape said:

Well the issue really is that there is little to no incentive to NOT be in the more powerful nations like Russia or Dutch.  They run little risk of losing ports, have tons of players for defense....eco is all setup in multiple locations.  Let's use pirates as a counter example.  Main player crafting hub is 1 region removed from being directly attacked.  Capital is 5-10 mins sail from a freetown.  20-30mins sail from either Shroud or LT puts you into the heart of pirate crafting.  Sweden and France are in similar predicaments if not worse, their capitals are right next to their crafting and players sink every 10mins or so.  Why stay?  National pride?  There's no special perks for being in a more difficult or smaller nation.  No special pirate mechanics.  With the addition of higher port BRs the game is even more supportive of the zerg nation style gameplay.  

HAVOC is fighting the good fight over in Daneland, but it's an uphill and probably a losing battle in the long run.  They get screened out half the time it seems.  What's their reward or incentive in not being apart of a zerg?  Being screened out....risk of losing all their crafting...player frustration and apathy.  For what?  Street cred?   Why bother.

And that is the Devs job, not ours. If this continues and the nation becomes so big. The devs will have no choice but to step in and put a stop to these people moving over. If you move over to another nation...there should be an account reset...PERIOD!

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6 minutes ago, HoneyBaddger said:

And that is the Devs job, not ours. If this continues and the nation becomes so big. The devs will have no choice but to step in and put a stop to these people moving over. If you move over to another nation...there should be an account reset...PERIOD!

No. There should always be a way to defect as it did happen in real life, albeit not monthly like some people do.

Uncharted Waters Online had a good way of doing this in that you could 'defect' to a lesser-populated nation with no effort, but if you wanted to go to a higher nation you had to sail around and 'correspond' with that nation's NPC ships (tedious and time-consuming, yes) until you reached a specific status with that nation. Or you could buy a nation change paper for real money of course.

Severus Snape is right, currently there is no reason not to join the zerg nations other than simply pride. There is nothing in place deterring it even though there should be some sort of penalty. Eventually it will fall apart and clans will defect to other nations, but at what cost, and how long until that happens?

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6 minutes ago, HoneyBaddger said:

And that is the Devs job, not ours. If this continues and the nation becomes so big. The devs will have no choice but to step in and put a stop to these people moving over. If you move over to another nation...there should be an account reset...PERIOD!

Devs created this issue in the first place.  It's their job to fix with with a game that's actually fit for release and proper mechanics.  Putting an artificial cap on players in a nation goes against the sanbox mindset.  And besides, why would he care about clans changing nations?  That's more forger DLCs in his pocket.  Hypothetically one could almost make the case that the game was intentionally designed to "encourage" the purchase and use of DLCs to make your in-game life easier.

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3 minutes ago, Spikes said:

No. There should always be a way to defect as it did happen in real life, albeit not monthly like some people do.

Uncharted Waters Online had a good way of doing this in that you could 'defect' to a lesser-populated nation with no effort, but if you wanted to go to a higher nation you had to sail around and 'correspond' with that nation's NPC ships (tedious and time-consuming, yes) until you reached a specific status with that nation. Or you could buy a nation change paper for real money of course.

Severus Snape is right, currently there is no reason not to join the zerg nations other than simply pride. There is nothing in place deterring it even though there should be some sort of penalty. Eventually it will fall apart and clans will defect to other nations, but at what cost, and how long until that happens?

Well, I just came back to the game after the wipe and there are so many people in the Russian nation that I heard in port the other day, when they asked for screeners, like 60 people x up in chat...WTF?

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42 minutes ago, Captain Reverse said:

The area near Veracruz is a very dangerous place. Cities will be further open. Moreover, this is just the beginning.
In New Orleans, access to the craft will not be given to anyone - which means it will not be possible to craft good ships

Welcome to the Russian Empire. The Baltic Fleet is pleased to welcome everyone!

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Craft in Vera Cruz rather that allow everyone and is more upgraded or even campeche😁 then sail or tow ship  to Frontline😁 no use of New Orleans pve heaven.

Reds is the content maker of russia, just craft ship sail out and attack enemy from nabour free for all port😊

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12 minutes ago, North said:

Craft in Vera Cruz rather that allow everyone and is more upgraded or even campeche😁 then sail or tow ship  to Frontline😁 no use of New Orleans pve heaven.

Reds is the content maker of russia, just craft ship sail out and attack enemy from nabour free for all port😊

I wish you to spend at least a couple of good victorious battles. Because at the moment, a month later +, I have not seen such

contentmaker :D yea, this is true, realy) And thanks for that)

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It may never happen, but I do relish the moment that Russia starts losing key ports and we suddenly notice a bunch of clans leaving again.

Maybe it is in the interest of some clans in Russia for that to happen...? 🤔

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7 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

It may never happen, but I do relish the moment that Russia starts losing key ports and we suddenly notice a bunch of clans leaving again.

Maybe it is in the interest of some clans in Russia for that to happen...? 🤔

So witch new clans you reffering to? Most clans have been here since the birth of the nation.

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Why not set rules for max ports? if they can't take anymore ports rvr clans move to other nations? or is the all wrong?

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2 hours ago, Captain Reverse said:

The area near Veracruz is a very dangerous place. Cities will be further open. Moreover, this is just the beginning.
In New Orleans, access to the craft will not be given to anyone - which means it will not be possible to craft good ships

Welcome to the Russian Empire. The Baltic Fleet is pleased to welcome everyone!

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Truth is that hunting activity in the southern Gulf is on a all time low right now. I've heard Danes lost first a Victory and then interest doing the job for you. And I have heard that due to low interest of others you have to do the job by yourself on your spanish account.

Have fun hunting trader brigs.

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3 hours ago, HoneyBaddger said:

Clans from Britain and Pirates have already started to defect to the Russian cause. Seems like a trend. People want to be on the side that's winning, or who has the most ports. It sucks but most if them will get bored and leave the game soon. 

That's what im wondering.  Isn't it boring to be part of the Zerg?  There is no challenge for them.  They are at the point where they don't need to make an effort any more.  I know people are against it, but I wish for a player cap (by percentage) on nations.

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1 hour ago, Immersive Ganking said:

Fake Russians vs Real Russians. Who has the patience to stay in Russian Empire, who will leave first?

Where is Ove Gjedde or whatever his name is now? This could be a very lucrative betting business!

@Reverse is not russian😂😂 i proberly live closer then him🤣🤣

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Waht i dont get...

Yesterdays Battle at Ponce has shown that Sweds,Dutch and Danes are easily strong enough to go head on against Russia(-BF). So i get you want Ponce back. But why attack a port as irrelevant as Santa Domingo? Why not attack sonething in the Gulf? El cuyo?  A sucessfull attack woud threaten Campeche and later Vera Cruz. That woud put pressure on  Russia.  Why React on Russian attacks when you can act and go offensive? Forcing russia to defend woud take pressure of The LM area.

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6 minutes ago, Meraun said:

Waht i dont get...

Yesterdays Battle at Ponce has shown that Sweds,Dutch and Danes are easily strong enough to go head on against Russia(-BF). So i get you want Ponce back. But why attack a port as irrelevant as Santa Domingo? Why not attack sonething in the Gulf? El cuyo?  A sucessfull attack woud threaten Campeche and later Vera Cruz. That woud put pressure on  Russia.  Why React on Russian attacks when you can act and go offensive? Forcing russia to defend woud take pressure of The LM area.

Agreed^^^

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