Leviathan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 It was mentioned briefly earlier but I would really like to see the HMS Mordaunt developed at some point. It's an absolutely beautiful ship but the few models we've seen in other games never do the ship justice. I would really like to see the developers here make a proper version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 why is the hull missing timbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 The cutaways allow you to see the construction of the model and below deck. Just a personal preference from the builder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 well since we have no second rate at the moment and no French SoL in particular i sugest: the 80gun French Duc de Bourgogne. sadly i cant find orgininal planes for her but there exist the 1821 HMS Ganges wich is based on her 1780 rifit launched in India i see if i can ask in the french forum maybe there exist some planes in some french museum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I Will go to a french exposition about Napoléon ship sinon septembre hoping to bring back photo and plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 List of french ships and artillery aboard between 1682 and 1780 http://www.agh.qc.ca/articles/?id=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flint Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It was mentioned briefly earlier but I would really like to see the HMS Mordaunt developed at some point. large.jpg This is a model of the HMS Prince (1670). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 now that you say it i see it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I don t Know if you already post this link. Thème is really many plans of ships in http://www.sjohistoriska.se/en/Collections/Archives/ChapmanNet/ChapmanNet/Drawings/?pressimagepage=5 Need the chebec Privateers orgnosation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Trinidad plans (not free) http://www.bestscalemodels.com/Santisima_Trinidad.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 not really usefull than to other plans it shows the wrong stern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hood Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I know that I have written it in other threads however I would be truly interested in seeing HMS Barfleur (1768) in this game. Alas I am not particularly adept at building ships for games. However I would possibly be willing to make a donation towards its existence in this game. Alas I have been unable to find any ship plans, only some paintings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hood Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Le commerce de Marseille - what a beautiful name By the way.. What is the best known and most famous french ship? Like British Victory or US Constitution or spanish galeons. The one that says France - just by looking at it. (1680-1820 period preferred) I would go as far as saying that this could be 2 warships. L'Orient was incredibly famous both for being one of the largest warships in the French fleet and due to her destruction. Another famous French warship was the Bretagne that was renamed Revolutionnaire at the outbreak of the French Revolution. Bretagne/Revolutionnaire carried 110 guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Still stalking the endless void of the internet for your 90guny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I know that I have written it in other threads however I would be truly interested in seeing HMS Barfleur (1768) in this game. Alas I am not particularly adept at building ships for games. However I would possibly be willing to make a donation towards its existence in this game. Alas I have been unable to find any ship plans, only some paintings. Ship looks nice, hopefully the devs have not started working on a 2nd rate yet. Anyway I found some blueprints. Would the sister ship be ok? http://collections.rmg.co.uk/mediaLib/571/media-571080/large.jpg The russian wiki has the Barfleur blueprint complete with interior https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B0_Barfleur#mediaviewer/File:Barfleur_%281768%29,_Princess_Royal_%281773%29.jpg I could not find any deck plans edit: Of course someone beat me to it in quick time... double edit: mmm nice thread on first rate blueprints: http://www.sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?2573-Stretching-Sculpts-SGN108-and-SGN201-British-First-Rates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 nah i had the rest of the hullshape missing you dont want to know where i got the picture from:D any sailplans by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 nah i had the rest of the hullshape missing you dont want to know where i got the picture from:D any sailplans by the way? Nah not even the place where the source of all plans are located D: Btw good news I'm guessing this is the go to website for ship plans? Heres the various drawings for barfleur. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;searchTerm=barfleur You'll also find the other blueprints for the ships of the same class at that site. Prince George and Princess Royal are the most common. Also some nice artwork of the princess royal: http://modelshipworld.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-2745-0-04590000-1389063215.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hood Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 You two have made my day. I shall endeavour to help out in any way that I can to get this implemented. Thank you for sifting through. She is quite frankly one of my favourite warships of all time and was one of the most battle tested warships of the era. I have yet to find a sail plan although will keep searching. The only thing that I have seen with her sails is her engagement with the Ville de Paris at the Battle of the Saintes. Alas it is from the famous painting which does not shed too much light on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 You two have made my day. I shall endeavour to help out in any way that I can to get this implemented. Thank you for sifting through. She is quite frankly one of my favourite warships of all time and was one of the most battle tested warships of the era. I have yet to find a sail plan although will keep searching. The only thing that I have seen with her sails is her engagement with the Ville de Paris at the Battle of the Saintes. Alas it is from the famous painting which does not shed too much light on it. This is another painting. Maybe the other one in my last post is good enough. I've look around but I think you might have a better chance looking for some books that depict drawings of what the ships might have looked like. http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/images/paintings/nmmg/large/nmm_nmmg_bhc3220_large.jpg How high are the standards for model accuracy? Theres also painting of the youngest sister ship formidable: http://www.military-art.com/mall/images/800s/acd0025.jpg Im sure youve already seen the model for Formidable as well. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Le_Formidable_Les_Saintes.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hood Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The picture that I had seen was this one where she is in mid battle. You can see part of the foremast, but the mainmast and mizzen seem to be most apparent. As the Formidable is the sister ship would her sail plan have been imposed upon the Barfleur. I shall look through the books that I have with regards to the ships, may have a sailplan somewhere . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Barfleur_(1768)#mediaviewer/File:Whitcombe,_Battle_of_the_Saints.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The picture that I had seen was this one where she is in mid battle. You can see part of the foremast, but the mainmast and mizzen seem to be most apparent. As the Formidable is the sister ship would her sail plan have been imposed upon the Barfleur. I shall look through the books that I have with regards to the ships, may have a sailplan somewhere . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Barfleur_(1768)#mediaviewer/File:Whitcombe,_Battle_of_the_Saints.jpg I think I read somewhere the HMS Princess Royal and HMS Barfleur were the closest in design. So perhaps the drawing here might be the best. http://modelshipworl...-1389063215.jpg I couldn't find much else, sorry I cant contribute more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hood Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 You have already done a fantastic job. If the plans for the Barfleur's hull were used along with the sail plan of the Princess Royal I would be happy. I have a few contacts in Naval Architecture so I'm hoping that someone will get back to me on the matter however I do believe that if the hull is taken from one the sail plan from the other would be an almost identical fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 so we have now enough plans to get an 2nd rate? great now we need some 4th rates and we have the lineship lineup for the british done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hood Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Fourth rates you can have such ships as HMS Lion, HMS Leander, HMS Agamemnon (of which there are substantial plans) also HMS Glatton is also an interesting fourth rate. HMS Glatton was virtually a converted indiaman however had carronades as her entire arsenal. Captained by William Bligh at the Battle of Copenhagen it is certainly an individualistic ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 or the downscaled 74 Leopard Ise portland class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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