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Just now, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

As you didn't attack Nouvelle Orleans, the main crafting port of the prussians.

Stop lying to yourself and to the community.

No. Only bf

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Just now, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

BF is Russia. 

Yes but you can say russian are 2 nations. Bf make his ownen stuff

All clans can do what they want 

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1 minute ago, El Patron said:

No. Only bf

What about the history of REDS?

Your clan came against GB and took the ports at Belize, where we had our crafting outposts.

Same against Sweden. You attacked several times Philipsburg and later Saint Johns, which both were ports where the swedish had their shipyards.

 

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3 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

What about the history of REDS?

Your clan came against GB and took the ports at Belize, where we had our crafting outposts.

Same against Sweden. You attacked several times Philipsburg and later Saint Johns, which both were ports where the swedish had their shipyards.

 

important is that we all learn from mistakes.

Here are a lot of guys in the game they are not learning from this mistakes . Thats a problem. 

 

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Just now, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

What about the history of REDS?

Your clan came against GB and took the ports at Belize, where we had our crafting outposts.

Same against Sweden. You attacked several times Philipsburg and later Saint Johns, which both were ports where the swedish had their shipyards.

 

its not like GB has ever one ported nations right, i seem to remember GB dutch swedes one porting the pirates and camping around Mortimer town for over month, and you hello kitty the Spanish as well back when you enjoyed way higher player numbers. but that all fine and just the way of the game but now when you don't have it its game breaking  

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8 minutes ago, Rune said:

its not like GB has ever one ported nations right, i seem to remember GB dutch swedes one porting the pirates and camping around Mortimer town for over month, and you hello kitty the Spanish as well back when you enjoyed way higher player numbers. but that all fine and just the way of the game but now when you don't have it its game breaking  

GB suffered during almost one year the daily attacks of REDS clan. When Russia fall due to @Captain Reverse and RUBLI, REDS switched to Spain, founded 7UP, and continued harrasing our community.

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4 minutes ago, Liberalism said:

Do all of the main craft bases have some community protection shield? It seems like taking main craft base equals one-porting from the past. Everyone welcome the "meaningful RvR" that got added thanks to RvR giants like Anolytic or redii.

The suggestions of Anolytic were only aimed to those players with the same zerg mentality as him.

 

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2 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

GB suffered during almost one year the daily attacks of REDS clan. When Russia fall due to @Captain Reverse and RUBLI, REDS switched to Spain, founded 7UP, and continued harrasing our community.

Reds switch never to spain dude 

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Just now, El Patron said:

Reds switch never to spain dude 

Lying?

I remember you and your buddies:

Christoph- El patron

Tiedemann- El tiedemann

Bill barents

Graf bernadote- someone else

Don juan dimasto

JAGS

and more

 

All of you were in 7UP and REDS.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Lying?

I remember you and your buddies:

Christoph- El patron

Tiedemann- El tiedemann

Bill barents

Graf bernadote- someone else

Don juan dimasto

JAGS

and more

 

All of you were in 7UP and REDS.

 

 

No. Jags and barents wasnt in reds and reds is bigger then 4 guys.

 

The problem is you know nothing 

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3 hours ago, Liberalism said:

Hear King of Clowns, his and his clan' winning condition is to make everyone quit the game :)

Then they whine on the forums about the lack of players and how the game is dead...

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38 minutes ago, El Patron said:

No. Jags and barents wasnt in reds and reds is bigger then 4 guys.

 

The problem is you know nothing 

My bad, jags and bill barents were VCO.

However, after the fall of russia, both joined you in 7UP. And now, both are REDS.

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1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Russia has destroyed Prussia.

Prussia is currently the 5th largest nation in terms of territory.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Russia has attacked pirate (morgan bluf)

It was ONE clan, not even a whole one, who got a OW fight. Shallow ports are so ridiculously easy to flip it could happen almost by accident. I'm sure pirates didn't really mind.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

spanish (san marcos)

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

San Marcos was fliped as a show of strenght by your new spanish mates at REDS. 

No. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. San Marcos was flipped only at the request of some Spanish clans. Then we received more information about the internal dispute and realised we did not want to step into the internal Spanish politics, so we decided not to go. In the meantime the port was unfortunately dropped by the owners. The whole affair was a waste of our time, but as already mentioned, shallow ports are effortless to flip.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

REDS have done a multiflip against GB to get a port without firing a shot.

Belive me, that wasn't the intent. We realised we wouldn't be able to get to the first one, so we set the second one to be able to get a fight.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

But most importantly, Russia has shown since its creation that doesn't care about a healthy server. They never stop until one community is completely destroyed, like it happened with GB 2 years ago and like it has happened with Prussia 2 weeks ago.

Prussia is still very much present on the map, and what goes for Brits they were never destroyed by Russia. If anything they destroyed themselves. When we were done with Brits they still had more territory than any other nation. REDS has always been concerned with server health. This is why in the past we have helped the weakest nations when they were under pressure. Spain against Brits and Pirates in the Gulf, Poland against Pirates in Hispaniola, France against Brits in Antilles, and when we started out, half the nations begged for our help against Sweden, which we did.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

About your attacks at Salamanca, REDS want to conquer truxillo and that way destroy our nation and playerbase, again. We are forced to use the mechanics at our disposal against a clan that take hostility missions at the same spot (see tribunal) to avoid a counter hostility fleet and keep doing multiflips to conquer uncontested ports.

REDS don't want Truxillo. We don't even want Bluefields, or Brangmann's, or even Belize ever since we realised that some clan was upgrading crafting there. Although we're starting to wonder if Brits are making crafting upgrades in every port just so that they can complain about us attacking their crafting hubs whichever port we attack. It's the only way it would make sense not to focus on like a couple of ports for crafting. It's a not-so-new port-battle defence move called "whining-till-the-enemy-goes-away", not to be confused with "winning".

Also, are you dense? It's only possible to take missions in a single spot for Salamanca. It's actually a major pain since each player can then only bring one mission. And you have no counter hostility fleet. We wish. First time we went for Salamanca we waited around more than an hour for you to show up and give us a fight and counter us.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Russia had just before the release as allies the prussians, french and spanish. Also you had agreements with the US and the poles.

None of this is actually true.

2 hours ago, Rune said:

if russia falls again we will go back to denmark i think

WTF kind of stupid shit are you on about?

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4 minutes ago, Anolytic said:

Prussia is currently the 5th largest nation in terms of territory.

It was ONE clan, not even a whole one, who got a OW fight. Shallow ports are so ridiculously easy to flip it could happen almost by accident. I'm sure pirates didn't really mind.

No. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. San Marcos was flipped only at the request of some Spanish clans. Then we received more information about the internal dispute and realised we did not want to step into the internal Spanish politics, so we decided not to go. In the meantime the port was unfortunately dropped by the owners. The whole affair was a waste of our time, but as already mentioned, shallow ports are effortless to flip.

Belive me, that wasn't the intent. We realised we wouldn't be able to get to the first one, so we set the second one to be able to get a fight.

Prussia is still very much present on the map, and what goes for Brits they were never destroyed by Russia. If anything they destroyed themselves. When we were done with Brits they still had more territory than any other nation. REDS has always been concerned with server health. This is why in the past we have helped the weakest nations when they were under pressure. Spain against Brits and Pirates in the Gulf, Poland against Pirates in Hispaniola, France against Brits in Antilles, and when we started out, half the nations begged for our help against Sweden, which we did.

REDS don't want Truxillo. We don't even want Bluefields, or Brangmann's, or even Belize ever since we realised that some clan was upgrading crafting there. Although we're starting to wonder if Brits are making crafting upgrades in every port just so that they can complain about us attacking their crafting hubs whichever port we attack. It's the only way it would make sense not to focus on like a couple of ports for crafting. It's a not-so-new port-battle defence move called "whining-till-the-enemy-goes-away", not to be confused with "winning".

Also, are you dense? It's only possible to take missions in a single spot for Salamanca. It's actually a major pain since each player can then only bring one mission. And you have no counter hostility fleet. We wish. First time we went for Salamanca we waited around more than an hour for you to show up and give us a fight and counter us.

None of this is actually true.

WTF kind of stupid shit are you on about?

You are good at propaganda. Dam good.

Now, shallow ports got flipped by "mistake", because they are easy to flip. Funny.

Prussia has lost its playerbase thanks to Russia. More than half of them have moved to other nations. The amount of ports with a prussian flag doesn't matter. Russia made an agreement with Prussia about the gulf and you couldn't keep your part of the deal.

At Nouvelle Orleans we saw the same story with hostility missions at the same spot. Tactic you used also in Salamanca, no matter the tribunal thread about it.

You had an alliance with the mentioned nations cause you did several multiflips. Btw, tactic you keep doing. 

The best part of your post is that one where we destroy ourselves. Of course, it has nothing to do when you attacked Belize surroundings with the help of the spanish and hide on battles to avoid our screening fleets.

REDS didn't give a f-u-c-k when you steamrolled the dutch a few months ago, probably it was too fun to think about a "healthy server". You killed the dutch but that wasn't important. Russia doesn't care about anything but themselves when in the last wipe you had almost all 55 point ports and controlled puerto espana, cartagena, santo domingo, san juan, bermudas, kidds, nouvelle orleans, kidds, cap francais, nassau.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Your clan came against GB and took the ports at Belize, where we had our crafting outposts.

Fighting brits is like walking on eggshells. You can't go anywhere without knocking over somebody's crafting ports. Just don't build crafting outposts in Salamanca and you'll all be fine.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

 Same against Sweden. You attacked several times Philipsburg and later Saint Johns, which both were ports where the swedish had their shipyards.

Actually, it was the other way around (Philipsburg last), and they were only attacked to trigger a fight, successfully. Players tended not to show up to unimportant port-battles. It doesn't mean we intended to keep those ports.

1 hour ago, Liberalism said:

It seems like taking main craft base equals one-porting from the past. Everyone welcome the "meaningful RvR" that got added thanks to RvR giants like Anolytic or redii.

Read my past posts. I've always argued against what I call "RvR-importance". I'm all for "meaningful RvR" if defined as rewarding RvR (remember resource rewards for successful PBs?), but never win-or-quit-the-game RvR. That I've always argued against.

1 hour ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

The suggestions of Anolytic were only aimed to those players with the same zerg mentality as him.

I've NEVER argued for my playstyle to be the only one. Not even the main one. At least I tried to make suggestions for the game. Just because some of them were (partially) listened to doesn't mean I'm responsible for everything else that you think is wrong with the game. Most of the suggestions that I've written up are from listening to players who play differently than me and have different wishes for the game than me.

I've suggested pirate-only mechanics even though I don't play pirate. I've made suggestions to ease the crafting economy substantially for "normal" players. And I've made countless other arguments and suggestions that go against my particular way of playing, but which I believed would be overall beneficial to most players.

7 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

You are good at propaganda. Dam good.

The truth isn't propaganda.

11 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Now, shallow ports got flipped by "mistake", because they are easy to flip. Funny.

Five players in frigates can flip a shallow port. Ask VCO, who owns Morgan's, if they felt threathened.

12 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Prussia has lost its playerbase thanks to Russia. More than half of them have moved to other nations. The amount of ports with a prussian flag doesn't matter. Russia made an agreement with Prussia about the gulf and you couldn't keep your part of the deal.

I think you'll find that no agreement was ever actually made about the Gulf. You'll also find that the Prussian clans that left were mainly preparing long before Nouvelle Orleans was lost, and we were even approached by Prussian clans that requested our help in screwing over rival Prussian clans, requests we politely passed.

18 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Tactic you used also in Salamanca

I have no idea about Nouvelle Orleans, but in Salamanca it's not a hello kittying tactic. Get it through your head finally. It is only possible to get missions in one single location. We have literally no choice in the matter. Borrow Salamanca to us and you can try it yourself how it works.

21 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

You had an alliance with the mentioned nations cause you did several multiflips.

A. Multiflips don't mean an alliance, only common enemy. B. Multiflips weren't our idea. C. Multiflips didn't even have our approval (in the timeframe you refer to). The other nations got wind of when we planned an attack and made their own at the same time, which made it harder for us to get a decent fight.

25 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Btw, tactic you keep doing. 

Brangmann's and Bluefields weren't multiflipped. They were flipped one after another (when we realised we couldn't make it to the first one), and there was more than enough time for the British fleet to sail from Brangmann's to Bluefields, except you got cold feet and turned back to harbour even though we ordered our screeners not to attack your PB fleet.

29 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

REDS didn't give a f-u-c-k when you steamrolled the dutch a few months ago, probably it was too fun to think about a "healthy server". You killed the dutch but that wasn't important.

REDS didn't steamroll Dutch. We took a couple of counties and let the rest of their territory be. Dutch abandoned the Maracaibo area after all of four battles, of which they won the first two and lost only the last two. 

33 minutes ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

Russia doesn't care about anything but themselves when in the last wipe you had almost all 55 point ports

Speaking for REDS, we were trying to make the point that a limited number of OP crafting ports are bad for the game. Apparently it didn't go through, maybe because everyone was whining about Russia this and Russia that instead of themselves suggesting better, more balanced mechanics?

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People will attack, do whatever they want that fit themselves. This is a game. A game with poor RvR design, which creates all this drama about crafting ports. May be after 1 year all the ports will be fully upgraded with no effect on anything than adding same meta bonuses. It only serves as a gap opener at the start of the server.

RvR has never been that bad, thanks to some amazing suggestions and Devs amazed with those ideas. 👏

No one but a fool is always right. May be Developers should listen to the people with more experience of being wrong rather than forcing everybody to play like those fools.

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6 hours ago, _Alucard_ said:
7 hours ago, OjK said:

You see? That's the problem of this game.
How about "trying to rebuild"?
Finding a "balance"?

Just no - let's go other super power to make it another super power.

That's SUPER BORING.

Forged Papers are absolutely worst thing that could have happened to this game.

Yes, and that is the reason you are playing with havoc and not with poland. 

Lol

Kind reminder: OjK is a member of SNOW who, incidentally, left GB on release to find a smaller nation. Get your facts straight, muchacho...

It was right after we switched that VPs playerbase massively increased. We would have picked another nation had we known beforehand. Bad timing, but ship happens. Now we honestly don't want to leave again, especially right after pumping a metric shitton of CMs, VMs and Doubloons first into the national infrastructure then into our own...

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2 hours ago, Koveras said:

especially over ships that can easily be replaced.

How can we replace them when we hardly have the time to safely transport our resources to craft? We can easily do the same to Danmark at all hours of the day but were not pricks.

Our thanks to HAVOC for giving us the breathing space recently. Hence, why we actually answered their plea to help screen for them yesterday. 

We can either help HAVOC's operations like many of us want to do, but if Danmark continues with the constant PvP through majority of the days we will not. It makes no sense for a nation to help another who is being overly aggressive towards them.

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45 minutes ago, Davos Seasworth said:

How can we replace them when we hardly have the time to safely transport our resources to craft? We can easily do the same to Danmark at all hours of the day but were not pricks.

Our thanks to HAVOC for giving us the breathing space recently. Hence, why we actually answered their plea to help screen for them yesterday. 

We can either help HAVOC's operations like many of us want to do, but if Danmark continues with the constant PvP through majority of the days we will not. It makes no sense for a nation to help another who is being overly aggressive towards them.

I (HEAVN) agree. Our PvP relationship must be made clearer by the clan leaders.
Traders of friendly nations must always be a taboo.

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5 hours ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

My bad, jags and bill barents were VCO.

However, after the fall of russia, both joined you in 7UP. And now, both are REDS.

talking about facts...

Jags and me were 7UP since 2016 but what do i know...

The VCO days were a short time after server merge.

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It's astonishing how serious some of you take this game and make it overly complicated. No wonder so many new and returning players find RVR intimidating and leave in droves once they are bored with what little else there is to do and the endless grind.

 

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The Problem ist all those non Russians just hiding behind BF's and russian Players Strenght, REDS alone could never get shit done alone - better join Zerg. 

And yes Prussia is dead, nice argument that they are not after 80% of Players left cause they have some Ports on the Map.

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11 hours ago, Admiral Howe of Gibraltar said:

BF is Russia. 

bullshit, BF is one half of Russia.

Can you maybe write down some RvR rules for us? When are we allowed to attack wich Port? in wich Ships and wich upgrades?  What, in your Opinion woud be legit RvR to play?

 

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