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The Anglo-Portuguese Alliance: Great Britain & Portugal in the battle of Cape St. Vincent,

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The Royal Portuguese family arriving in the coast of Rio de Janeiro escorted by a few british Man o' Wars.

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S. António e S. José 74-guns SOLs.

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On 1/8/2019 at 5:51 AM, Portuguese Privateer said:

The Anglo-Portuguese Alliance: Great Britain & Portugal in the battle of Cape St. Vincent,

The Royal Portuguese family arriving in the coast of Rio de Janeiro escorted by a few british Man o' Wars.

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S. António e S. José 74-guns SOLs.

 

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what a beautiful painting (look at the many long boats)

look at the men on the Raas all cheering

wished the Portuguese wherein the game aswell

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On 2/18/2019 at 4:45 AM, Thonys said:

what a beautiful painting (look at the many long boats)

look at the men on the Raas all cheering

wished the Portuguese wherein the game aswell

A beautiful painting of two seafaring nations not shooting at each other with their lineships.  Most paintings you see of two seafaring nations are of them brawling each other.  Symbolic of the longtime alliance between these two.

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It's funny, the comments come from me on the FaceBook of Nicolas (Trois-ponts) 😁
Small precision, the auto translat writes "hunting-tid", it is necessary to read Chasse-Marée and to translate it by "fishing vessel, or coasting vessel or even lugger".

I made a post on the ship Louis XIV.

 

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On 11/30/2018 at 5:54 AM, Wagram said:

Second thoughts about the identity of the artist: As Henry Rodolphe de Gueydon had a son born in 1775 who was also called Henri (or Henry), the artist could just as well have been the son, of course. If so, both watercolours would have been painted by Henri Jehan (also: Henry Jean) François de Gueydon (who was an "agent comptable maritime", maritime accounting officer - apparently a post in the administration of the navy - at Granville in 1807), the "Mars" painting specifically to bring to mind a memorable event in the life of his father. This would certainly explain the inaccuracies of the painting much better...

I missed the most important entry on gw.geneanet.org about Henry Jean (Jehan) François de Gueydon and his father which clarifies a lot:

https://gw.geneanet.org/skrebs1?lang=en&pz=serge&nz=krebs&ocz=0&p=henri+jehan+francois&n=de+gueydon

So, it seems that Henry Rodolphe de Gueydon had not recognized officially his marriage and son for more than twenty years. It was only on 29 Mai 1799 (10 Prairial An VII) he legitimized both marriage and son.

Moreover, the report from 17 August 1797 (30 Thermidor An V) appears to indicate that the father, though being a staunch royalist and catholic (see here:

https://books.google.ch/books?id=De5TtT-JtXsC&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=Henri+Rodolphe+de+Gueydon+"Essai+sur+l'opinion,+considérée+comme+une+des+principales+causes+de+la+Révolution+de+1789"&source=bl&ots=pqKSev-6h2&sig=ACfU3U2w5b3QjmBRABph1IJoF346f5kx0Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJk6vL0dDjAhXEQUEAHbguA1oQ6AEwAHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=Henri Rodolphe de Gueydon "Essai sur l'opinion%2C considérée comme une des principales causes de la Révolution de 1789"&f=false

and here:

https://books.google.ch/books?id=565cAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT1&lpg=PT1&dq=gueydon+"Arreté+des+Patriotes+du+Club+du+Café+national+de+Bordeaux"&source=bl&ots=tZRxOecefe&sig=ACfU3U2qYz7d_0ZK20oqvdL2QbP4nSTEzw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1hvi20tDjAhUSO8AKHXExATEQ6AEwAHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=gueydon "Arreté des Patriotes du Club du Café national de Bordeaux"&f=false , p. 3f.)

had never emigrated to England and it also reveals that it must have been the son who was taken prisoner and deported to England:

"...qu’elle reconnait pour son fils le dit Henry Jean François, lequel est classé en ce port sous le nom de Jean François Henry, a fait deux voyages dans l’Inde, a servi en qualité de commis aux vivres sur l’Anonime, s’est embarqué dernièrement à Nantes sur le Corsaire l’Aimable Manette qui a été pris et conduit en Angleterre, ..."

As for the ships, see Alain Demerliac, Nomenclature des navires français de 1792 à 1799, Nice 1999.

p. 258, N°.2240:

"1797/1798 ANONYME:

Brick corsaire de Nantes armé en 12-1797...En 3-1798 il rentra à La Rochelle."

p. 316, N°.2998:

"1797/1797 AIMABLE NANETTE ou AIMABLE MANETTE

Brick corsaire d'un port d'attache non connu [Nantes, to judge from our document] armé en 1797...1-5-1797: Capturé par les Anglais, par HMS SPITFIRE..."

(Note: As Anonyme was armed only in December 1797 but Aimable Manette had been captured in May 1797 already, Henry Jean must have served on board Anonyme long before she had been "armed", and then embarked on Aimable Manette - sometime before 1 May 1797. The question is, when was Anonyme built? Or was there another Anonyme at the time? Demerliac, p. 106, N°.668, mentions a "lougre" also called Anonyme but that ship had foundered in June 1795 and was broken up in August 1795 already. Vichot, Répertoire des navires de guerre français, Paris, 1967. p.12, mentions still another Anonyme, built in 1795, and called a "transport", no further information ...?) 

 

So, it looks as if it was the son indeed who had painted the two pictures. If he actually was at Mill Prison in 1798, he may still have been there when his father married his mother officially and recognized him as his son (in 1799).

Just  a guess: Henry Jean may have been released and returned home after the Peace of Amiens in 1802 and painted the pictures thereafter (sometime between 1802 and his death in 1836).

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La Ville de Paris, Rochefort, around 1850.

Sample plan of Sané.
Slice of the 118-gun ships from 1806-1813.

Original name: Marengo
Building start: 1807
Shipyard: Rochefort
Dimensions (pied du Roi): 196.6' x50' x25' x25'.
Artillery: 32x36-pdr / 34x24-pdr / 34x12-pdr / 14x8-pdr+12 carronades of 36-pdr
Stuck of the French list: 1882
Motorized: 1852/1854
Other names :
- Ville de Vienne 1807
- Comte d'Artois 1814
- Ville de Paris 1830

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“Vue du port de Brest” by French artist Jean-Francois Hue, showing the inner harbour in 1793. It was France’s most important naval base. The Royal Navy would blockade it in all weathers for the next 22 years.

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