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2 hours ago, Aegir said:

 

Fortunately the ones who have stuck with the game thus far know that having to re-do all of the grinding isn't worth it.

I for one am 90% sure that I'm not even gonna bother, and I'm sure that lots of the returning players who'd fancy giving the game a go once it was finished will see the ratings and discussions and give it a pass. A humongous time sink of a game.

I admit it doesn’t feel good having yet again to go through another wipe and this time lose everything. Four (4) years, 1800+ hours logged, three wipes make it hard to swallow. I can still retain my experiences and knowledge on the PvE and will continue to enjoy this game there. The PvP side, I don’t know if I am willing to put through the effort to ever go back to that server. It has been infrequent since the major ganking days a couple of years ago and from this point forward having to start at 0 in the PvP world just doesn’t have any appeal to participate.

 

I am not a Dev and have no say in the way things will turn out. The only thing I can change is my approach to the game. Will I continue to play, you bet. On the PvP server? Most likely not. I do not need Port Battles and global domination to enjoy the game.

 

I hope to still see all y’all on the other side of the wipe. We are a unique bunch that enjoys a different paced game and is immersed into a historical venue like nothing before it.

 

You know what’s coming and you can change the way you approach it. Remember everyone here is losing something, so lets cool our jets, take a deep breath and rest our clocks. Time to regroup and start a positive attitude.

 

IMHO

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Im a long time game owner ( but only a casual player ) but registrated just right now to the forum because I have an ( for me ) urgent question:

Since I have seen a few wipes in alpha, will this wipe be the last one?

 

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GrafHodenschaf

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1 hour ago, GrafHodenschaf said:

Im a long time game owner ( but only a casual player ) but registrated just right now to the forum because I have an ( for me ) urgent question:

Since I have seen a few wipes in alpha, will this wipe be the last one?

 

Thx

GrafHodenschaf

That is still a question to be answered sir.

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I had to take a break from the game for about 6-8 months.  Coming back, i see many changes that i like.  That said, it sucks that the devs go back on their words.  I chalk it up to exuberance on their part, wanting to do more and communicating their hopes too soon.  I think the reasoning is flawed as well, in that players taking up the game 1 moth from now, will have a disadvantage to those that started this coming week.  In fact, those that started this coming week, will be at  disadvantage to those of us that are versed in the exams.  But if we want to pretend - let's pretend and get to over with, shall we?

That said, the question as to whether this is the final wipe is quite valid imho....

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Not answering a straight, repeatedly asked question  in dev's forum, could be an answer as well...

(...and, what ever an answer would be, I'll never ever trust a given promise by dev's again.)

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4 hours ago, GrafHodenschaf said:

 

Since I have seen a few wipes in alpha, will this wipe be the last one?

 

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GrafHodenschaf

Yes its release 

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Feel days left to developers ruin this game with wipes and players still beliving that it is the best plan. Wipe with Ai ships being buffed all the time. Are these guys really playing or they just come on forum say shit and developers agree with them? 

A lot of old and good players just leave, new bie people are leaving, and wipe and the false "release" will not bring new players. Keep doing this horrible work.

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6 hours ago, Jean LaPointe said:

That is still a question to be answered sir.

For sure this ill not be the last wipe. They will just wait more stupid pvp players crying for shit and they will do all the pvp babys want.

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23 hours ago, Sea Fox said:

Dammit you nailed it!! Explains so much!! It all makes sense now....I feel kinda dumb now for not seeing this!

Look it, another pvp thiking that a wipe will be the solution. Are you still really playing this game yet?

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I just hope they really do this on the 10th to 12th like they say.  There were only 150 players on today during the middle of a Saturday.  To me that means people are playing not for fun, but for rewards they can keep.  All the more proof that a wipe is really gonna hurt. :(

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On 6/7/2019 at 2:13 PM, Aster said:

Shroud produces repairs as it is a capitol.

Shroud is a massive steaming pile of gankdung

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2 hours ago, fandagh said:

Look it, another pvp thiking that a wipe will be the solution. Are you still really playing this game yet?

My my....   are you triggered, mate??

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1 hour ago, Papillon said:

I just hope they really do this on the 10th to 12th like they say.  There were only 150 players on today during the middle of a Saturday.  To me that means people are playing not for fun, but for rewards they can keep.  All the more proof that a wipe is really gonna hurt. :(

wipe will f... the game. and people is leaving coz they are not dumbs to be crafiting and building all again.

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Just now, fandagh said:

wipe will f... the game. and people is leaving coz they are not dumbs to be crafiting and building all again.

Did you just arrive or something?  You need more rum....

 

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7 hours ago, Papillon said:

I just hope they really do this on the 10th to 12th like they say.  There were only 150 players on today during the middle of a Saturday.  To me that means people are playing not for fun, but for rewards they can keep.  All the more proof that a wipe is really gonna hurt. :(

I do not want to be too pessimistic, but the general feeling among the veterans i know is that this game - after a couple of months from the launch - will end up as it was during the last part of the testing.

- war server: a small club of the same persons playing the "hardcore elite" part and 90% of newbies leaving after a couple of months.

- peace server: maybe new players will like it, but actually the content is a little lacking: trade is almost useless, killing NPCs has inconsistent rewards, missions give rewards that are useful for crafting, but crafting - after the insane revamp of building prices - has been set behind a huge grind wall (and with the new elite NPCs, is also quite pointless crafting ships that are weaker, in stats, with respect to the captured ones). 

Will this be enough to keep up servers? Maybe, but only if the hardcore elite small crew is disposed to buy new DLCs: That's the only possible business model of this game after launch (and the bet of the developers). Otherwise I fear the game will slowly fade.

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47 minutes ago, toblerone said:

I do not want to be too pessimistic, but the general feeling among the veterans i know is that this game - after a couple of months from the launch - will end up as it was during the last part of the testing.

- war server: a small club of the same persons playing the "hardcore elite" part and 90% of newbies leaving after a couple of months.

- peace server: maybe new players will like it, but actually the content is a little lacking: trade is almost useless, killing NPCs has inconsistent rewards, missions give rewards that are useful for crafting, but crafting - after the insane revamp of building prices - has been set behind a huge grind wall (and with the new elite NPCs, is also quite pointless crafting ships that are weaker, in stats, with respect to the captured ones). 

Will this be enough to keep up servers? Maybe, but only if the hardcore elite small crew is disposed to buy new DLCs: That's the only possible business model of this game after launch (and the bet of the developers). Otherwise I fear the game will slowly fade.

Tides go in tides go out, you can't explain that

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16 hours ago, Taranis said:

I had to take a break from the game for about 6-8 months.  Coming back, i see many changes that i like.  That said, it sucks that the devs go back on their words.  I chalk it up to exuberance on their part, wanting to do more and communicating their hopes too soon.  I think the reasoning is flawed as well, in that players taking up the game 1 moth from now, will have a disadvantage to those that started this coming week.  In fact, those that started this coming week, will be at  disadvantage to those of us that are versed in the exams.  But if we want to pretend - let's pretend and get to over with, shall we?

That said, the question as to whether this is the final wipe is quite valid imho....

Good to see you again, Taranis. I was thinking a bit more on this and I can see resets in the future when in the PvP world conquests gets lopsided (as it has in the past) but as a full wipe I believe that can be a major error if they go down that path. so I do not see that as fix all/end all operation. Schedule resets would be acceptable as to be allowed time to gather supplies and ships, return to capitals and prepare for another rage on the Caribbean.

We learned a long time ago that no matter what we think about the survival of the game or player base to keep the game going, the Dev's did as they wished. It's as if they have all the resources and finances to build a game they want even if it is build for the Dev's own pleasure and we are here to make it interesting for their world. Remember there have been time where PvP had 900 on line at a time, then changes we made and a bunch left. Some came back and some more left, again and again. Although the more interesting part is PvE has been pretty steady all along number wise.

This game is like none other and I believe the developers are keeping it that was. This explains why hardcore games are frustrated with the mechanics because it doesn't make sense to them from a gaming POV.

So if you had all the money you ever needed and wanted to play a game like this one and there wasn't anything like it on the market, so you create a group of talented people , give yourself a name , and Alpha your desire to be tested - then you have what we got right now.

 

IMHO

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THERE are still people who are worried about another wipe after this one on 10-14 June. It is a game LAUNCH isn't it? Or am I wrong?

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Personally, I’m excited about starting fresh. Crossing my fingers though they keep the date of Jun 10-14 and not push it back. 

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I didn't want to wait for the wipe to take a look at how it will be.  After 4000+ hours and full docks and warehouse, I reset my account last week.

My thinking was, find out what it's like to be at zero, spend a week playing from that position and see what I come up with.  I think I can see how it's going to go initially.

So it went like this for me, took some passenger deliveries on the yacht.  Put 6pd on yacht, took a trader brig,  did some cargo deliveries.  That was reals and gold set. Did the first part of the exam crewed the dlc Herc, ranked up a couple, did the final exam and dlc requin.   You probably can do that in a day at a push with no interference.  The first day there will be interference so.. 

Left it at that point because then it just becomes grindy.

It was easy to do this with clear seas this week, so not a clear picture.  My guess you will see requin out on the first day.

Conclusion, you can get up and running quite quickly, then its just repetitive but I guess the requin players will have a good time initially. 

If you have not got DLC Requin and DLC herc ... I don't think you are going to be smiling at the start.

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Who knows, maybe we have been testing somekind of barebone version of NA all those years and they will add plenty a new features they were confident about and did not need any testing, thus were not in the alpha-beta-gamma version we had access to :)

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10 hours ago, Lannes said:

THERE are still people who are worried about another wipe after this one on 10-14 June. It is a game LAUNCH isn't it? Or am I wrong?

From what I recall yes. Although I feel like they should hold off the wipe and "full release" for another 2 weeks till the steam sale is up and running on the 25th. Use that as a major marketing and jumping off point for the "full release" to introduce the game to a larger audience at a more economically appealing price. This game will be a tough sale otherwise without a sale price to start off with. Not because of children crying through their reviews or how obscure this game is. Instead, mainly do to the fact that this game is very broad and lacks definitive non-player created objects. Unless you are telling someone that it is a mix of games like Elite Dangerous and Eve, most folks would not truly understand what this game is about and avoid. Even the trailer is just a visual hype cake. No real detail on what this game is about and apart from battles, what the other aspects of the game are. 

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25 minutes ago, Zlatkowar said:

Can we expect the promised 50 aditional paint jobs by release time? You're already months late on that.

Let's hope that's on the back burner relative to a miriad of other things

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