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Wow, I cannot believe all the reactions toward the release. We have been told, which feels like forever, everything was to wiped. I assumed both servers would be hit the same, but I am grateful to keep rank and experience on the PvE server. For you veterans that have been here since 2015 and survived the wipes we have been through would remember the game always had major changes from one wipe to another. I see people complaining about the lost of books on this next wipe, really it's that important to you??? Books are new as the sextant is new to the game development. We spend the most of our time without either in this game so learn to adapt.

Promises?? What promises are not being mentioned in this discussion? I do not recall any promises being made as to what you will keep or not keep and I am not going to go through 4 years of post to find a sentence that may hint to a promise. A wipe is a wipe, anything above 0 is a plus. Live with the 0 and put you big sailor pants on and move forward. The only thing you have from this point forward is there won't be another wipe. We have all be in a test mode, what more were you expecting?? A Hello Kitty trophy?? 

Experience tells me there are going to be changes we have no idea about after the wipe takes affect. I would hope it is close to the way we have been playing these recent months as I think this has been the best combination game mechanics yet to NA.

After the failure on the PvE server the other day showed, to me at least, I am ready for a wipe as everything was lost and a cutter was in my dock.

So wipe your eyes dry, take a deep breath and get your damn oars out and start rowing............................

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1 hour ago, Father of Dragons said:

You mean for like 3 or 4 pve missions? Ofc its an advantage dont be delusional lol

 

Why not fix the core problem so everyone can have some kind of progress which doesnt feel like its a f2p game instead of bitching around that you can keep your books while new players are completely fcked??

New players will be completely hello kittyed no matter what. 

WE know how to play the game. They do not.

they cannot ‘wipe’ our experience: and I fear what others predicted will come true: 

new players come to this game will be farmed to death and quit in a week as ‘veteran’ players rush to gain max rank, xp , and dubs 

 

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11 hours ago, Quimby said:

Please explain this confusion in what you have written:

Peace server

  • Partial reset:
    • Rank, Crafting rank, Knoweldge slots and knowledge books will remain
    • Everything else will be wiped, and tutorial progress will be reset.
    • Compensation ships for latest server problems will be added on launch as a timed redeem
  • where only knowledge books will remain then we go to:
  • peace server he/she will have xp, crafting xp, slots and books. Clan affiliation will remain as it was before the launch.

Where we will have books on peace server! Appears not to make sense.

It's not the "Same game" as the PvP version. PvE, fresh start but you keep skills earned- (The AI sailors won't bitch). In the PvP world where hostility is among human players -equable playing requires all to be on the same playing field -0.

Makes sense to me...........................

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56 minutes ago, JG14_Cuzn said:

New players will be completely hello kittyed no matter what. 

WE know how to play the game. They do not.

they cannot ‘wipe’ our experience: and I fear what others predicted will come true: 

new players come to this game will be farmed to death and quit in a week as ‘veteran’ players rush to gain max rank, xp , and dubs 

 

you would have done that anyway.

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1 hour ago, JG14_Cuzn said:

New players will be completely hello kittyed no matter what. 

WE know how to play the game. They do not.

they cannot ‘wipe’ our experience: and I fear what others predicted will come true: 

new players come to this game will be farmed to death and quit in a week as ‘veteran’ players rush to gain max rank, xp , and dubs 

 

Which is a very strong argument for reinstallation of "R" - Zones !!!

Honestly couldnt understand why they got removed because they were highly welcome to Traders/Haulers and new(er) Players aswell :P 

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2 hours ago, Jean LaPointe said:

The only thing you have from this point forward is there won't be another wipe

Did anyone ever read this from the Admin?  Or are we just wishing?

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9 minutes ago, Routan said:

Bad for GANKERS looking for EASY KILLS. So a no go.

I took the liberty to make a couple of little corrections

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22 minutes ago, Routan said:

Bad for vets looking for PvP. So a no go.

Not the whole game should be built around the wishes of us Vets :P 

Especially when this means that the by all of us highly paid (with the loss of our Books and heavily grinded Knowledge Slot) and most needed influx of new Players will be countered by selfish salty PvPers, who will drive those new Players out of the game in days without large R - Zones :( 

 

 

...and let us be crystalclear in this point:

We can debate for the next 2 weeks over and over, that this will/would happen because of "evil Devs" has taken us away our shinies... @admin will not change his mind anymore nevertheless... if WE, the COMMUNITY, will drive the new Players literally with purpose out of the game, all our loss was for nothing !!!

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Routan said:

As admin said. This game isent for everybody. They build the game they liked, dosent matter if anybody playes it.

This has been their motive all along. It really does not matter what people think needs fixing or what direction the game should go or who the game should cater to, it's their game. So enjoy the ride they are providing.

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3 minutes ago, Wraith said:

I'm not calling you ignorant, but if the shoe fits:

The key being this statement here:

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And most recently:

And then after that it was encouraged that book knowledge might be preserved, which greatly encouraged people to keep playing:

So if you're intellectually honest you shouldn't be surprised if feelings are strong, since testers literally have been playing under the assumption for over 3 years that some aspect of the grind they were exposed to would be rewarded by not having to re-do it. I personally bought the game in 2016 after reading that first post, knowing that even though I was testing an Early Access game my time would not be wasted. I encouraged others to do so since then based on that.

Thank you for providing the post I had not seen to prove it why I am reading what I am reading concerning the promises. I can fully understand this more clearly. I wish more would not have assumed everyone knows the history of the statements. Again, I thank you for taking the time to provide this information.

 

BTW, I'm barefoot, LOL

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30 minutes ago, Jean LaPointe said:

This has been their motive all along. It really does not matter what people think needs fixing or what direction the game should go or who the game should cater to, it's their game. So enjoy the ride they are providing.

If players do not like the game, players do not play the game. If not enough players will play the game after launch, servers will close.

So it matters a lot if players like the game or not, even if it's "devs' game".

 

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Current WAR server has limit to 2000 online users.

Total number of accounts on WAR servers is 49587.

How do you measure the chances of getting problems with the login after the release?

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On ‎5‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 9:59 AM, Wraith said:

Wipe only inactive clans. It's far too open to trolling by everyone and their alts, especially given the advantage that EU time zone players will have in establishing new clans on wipe day.

 

This really should be done Admin.  Giving credit where credit is due, Sir Texas Sir gave a good implementation of this months ago on the forum (it got no response I've ever seen from Admin, but was a good plan).  You can make it a 7-day or so timed redeemable, or you can simply wipe the dead clan names after a week if no one from clan has logged on and re-claimed it.  Or make it a regular 3-month or so purge for inactive clans.

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18 hours ago, Audacious said:

Deal with it. You are a Tester

I'm kind of tired of seeing this response, it is completely untrue.

We are not testers, we are people who have purchased a retail game product from an online vendor, for real money.  We are players, and NOT testers.

https://store.steampowered.com/earlyaccessfaq/

The Steam Early Access description page tells you exactly what this is, and nowhere even once on this page is the word test or tester used.  This is a game in development that is changing and bought as-is.  You are a player, a customer, and nothing different.  If you are hired or invited by the company for money or maybe nothing but recognition to be a tester then that's different, but buying an early access game simply means it's still in development and can change.

_____________________________________________________________________________

Is this the same as pre-purchasing a game?

No. Early Access is a full purchase of a playable game. By purchasing, you gain immediate access to download and play the game in its current form and as it evolves. You keep access to the game, even if the game later moves from Early Access into fully released.

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On ‎5‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 6:40 AM, admin said:

...Names are going to be kept on both servers. You will start the game with a character you had before launch, on war server he/she will have nothing...

This part of it makes a lot of sense even if we are left with nothing on war server.  No one will be able to grief others, stealing names and pretending to be someone they're not and causing confusion.  Thanks for this particular decision.

Not in agreement with 100% of the rest, but I do like that one.

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I always kind of figured they were going to end up doing a full wipe regardless of what was said. One of the reasons I never liked the whole notion of having to grind out ship slots and grind for books. But plenty of people kept saying it wasn't a big deal because they already had everything and thought they were going to get to keep it. So, if the shoe fits wear it. 

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I think the wipe is great. This is coming from someone with a very limited play time so it will take me forever to get back where I was. I enjoy starting over (I have even reset my profile once by free will). I do not understand why you guys think this game is grindy. If you think battles and trading are grindy then why the hell did you get an age of sail simulator? I have expected this wipe was to happen and think that it would be stupid for the devs to let us keep all our stuff. 

But Developers, I have a suggestion:

Do not increase the price. At least not a lot.        I have tried to get my friends in NA and they are all somewhat interested but the price is what keeps them away. Please do not increase the price, or just not by much.

Thank you!

RuusterIV

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Well, full wipe is really the only way to go about this. My only question is this: Why bother?

After the game “releases” you won’t see any difference. You might get 1532 new purchases of the game (some will be alts), you will get 1 out of 10 new players retention( being optimistic here) and you’ll get some players coming back to check out the “finished product”. Those will also quit because if the game wasn’t good enough before it sure isn’t any better now.

So basically will be back to where we are now but with less players than now because who the hell wants to grind again for stuff they already had before??

The game will consist of streamers, hardcore players ( crazy might be the correct description at this point) and the poor noob that bought the game because he just watched Master & Commander with Russel Crowe.

What number of active logins is required to keep the servers on is really the only thing I don’t know and i’m Curious about

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There will still be very "strong" players whose strength only depends on many poor souls which are harvesting all the mats and books and rare upgrades for the few power streamers who shine in full bright light destroying all those poor people's ships who simply can't get all these goods because they could not spend as much time on the game.

So I pretty guess this is the same as in real life, but unless real life - where you simply had to accept this - this should be a game and this should be fun for every single player who spends some time on it. Turns out this is a thing the devs simply didn't realize despite all the thousands of posts of people who did really care for this game.

Once all the new players who put a foot in this trap would realize the whole truth they will quit - or end as pitiful individuals who just never go out of this spiral. What a pity. There is no single word to add any more.

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Some fellows have several hobbies, so they split the time. Others simply have pc gaming, and many dedicate themselves to one single game. What part of "hobby time is a personal choice" is hard to understand ? Is not a race, is not a competition, and if anyone wants to make a game, any game, their lifestyle, who cares anyway. Don't judge "everyone will be left behind because this and that individual spends a lot of time in a game". Is a bit ridiculous.

Enjoy your hobbies and enjoy NA if it is one of them.

And if you set yourself to compete against them, then it is on you. Not everyone else. Play to win.

Talk about measureing others by our own self :) ... 

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Regardless of how it turns out or what anyone else thinks or does, Capt. Ed and Seadog Wade are going to have a great time just going down to the sea in pixel ships and doing business on the great waters.

I will probably be mostly on the Peace server because it best fits all the other things going on in my life. Not as much thrill but I can't have everything.

Congratulations and best sailing all.

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Well, I'm done.

I play on the PvE server, and crafting and collecting ships was my main thing. If they are going, I'm going as well.

I guess I should've expected this reversal of decision....again. First we were gonna get ships wiped, then Admin said they wouldn't wipe PvE at all because it didn't make sense, and now it's a wipe again...

Whatever...bye.

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1 hour ago, Kartaugh said:

Well, I'm done.

I play on the PvE server, and crafting and collecting ships was my main thing. If they are going, I'm going as well.

I guess I should've expected this reversal of decision....again. First we were gonna get ships wiped, then Admin said they wouldn't wipe PvE at all because it didn't make sense, and now it's a wipe again...

Whatever...bye.

I don't know....in light of the fact that early access means a game might not even be launched at all, I think this partial wipe of PVE server is a pretty good compromise.

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I enjoyed playing the game, yes I believed them when they said your XP is safe.  As time went on I  thought they will surely wipe everything.   I could not really understand why they said your XP will be safe (I do now) so I went along with it.  No regrets I had a good time (4000+ hours)  

When the DLC ships were introduced, I thought to myself, if the wipe takes out everything I will just DLC a couple of ships and play occasionally.   That's what I intend to do, no more grinding for me.  Nope been there done it, got the badge.

On the topic of,  'you will keep your name, your name will not be reset' ... seems an obvious move to me, what better way to sell the DLC forger ;)  (good business idea, It has to give them some return).

On reflection of the whole situation, I can safely say I had my money's worth.  For new players the game will be ok, however, I think they missed the boat, the fun was had in its development in my opinion.

Looking forward to summer outside now. 

 

 

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