Russians exploit Hostility missions...what is devs decision?

[huliotkd]

the previous thread has been locked for review...so what are the Devs decision?  all the evidence is inside previous thread, also Reverse streaming video.

 

and Russians took Santiago the cuba instead not using exploited PB...

 

i ask for a punishment same for SORRY clan: 

permaban for Reverse,permaban for WTF started hostility exploited mission, demote all BF and WTF clan (the action of 1 will touch all other players) to midshipman , reset ports to previous nation (also St. Mary to neutral or USA), reset all BF ports to starting level.

 

 

 

looks like WO clan deserve same punishment for Jeremie PB

[derekticus]

1 minute ago, huliotkd said:

the previous thread has been locked for review...so what are the Devs decision?  all the evidence is inside previous thread, also Reverse streaming video.

 

and Russians took Santiago the cuba instead not using exploited PB...

 

i ask for a punishment same for SORRY clan: 

permaban for Reverse,permaban for WTF started hostility exploited mission, demote all BF and WTF clan (the action of 1 will touch all other players) to midshipman , reset ports to previous nation (also St. Mary to neutral or USA), reset all BF ports to starting level.

 

 

 

looks like WO clan deserve same punishment for Jeremie PB

I whole-heartily agree.  Players have been banned for less...

[huliotkd]

we are not talking of Nassau. it's a correct battle.

Nassau battle showed also how ports bonus can be too much and they should be reduced. but the victory was legit

[Galt]

This is quickly becoming less about fixing an issue and more about retribution and that is wrong. Nothing should be done because not a single PvP kill was earned in the PBs. no ships lost, no damage done; ports were neutral. People are just salty they couldn't block people from taking ports pure and simple. 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Galt

[Galt]

8 minutes ago, sam121252 said:

and there should be punishment for that otherwise other people will do it and then the game is broken again, the feature  they added was for nothing then because people are not getting punished for using the exploits that fully destroys that feature 

 

It's asinine to say that people should look for exploits but then punish them for using them. We need to find these things and we need to show they are game breaking so they will be taken care of quickly. Don't worry kiddo, you'll have all the ports you deserve soon enough. Just hang in there!

[huliotkd]

30 minutes ago, Galt said:

This is quickly becoming less about fixing an issue and more about retribution and that is wrong. Nothing should be done because not a single PvP kill was earned in the PBs. no ships lost, no damage done; ports were neutral. People are just salty they couldn't block people from taking ports pure and simple. 

port weren't neutral, was GB and my clan dropped it due to exploit. the only one who can set the PB was Pirates and it went to BF clan, russian...so it is an exploit.

yes, people should look for exploits but not use it.   you only have to report them and stop.

[Sir Texas Sir]

56 minutes ago, huliotkd said:

the previous thread has been locked for review...so what are the Devs decision?  all the evidence is inside previous thread, also Reverse streaming video.

 

and Russians took Santiago the cuba instead not using exploited PB...

 

i ask for a punishment same for SORRY clan: 

permaban for Reverse,permaban for WTF started hostility exploited mission, demote all BF and WTF clan (the action of 1 will touch all other players) to midshipman , reset ports to previous nation (also St. Mary to neutral or USA), reset all BF ports to starting level.

 

 

 

looks like WO clan deserve same punishment for Jeremie PB

WO also did before the same thing with San Mateo.

La Desconocida was flipped by UWU who has one member and that member is alt of a VCO clan member.   This goes deeper than just one clan. I really don't care about a punishment, but the Devs need to make a call and roll these ports back to Neutral when the next hotfix is deployed.

How many more ports will be flipped by exploiters that just want to be toxic to other players?

[Oli Garchy]

4 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

WO also did before the same thing with San Mateo.

La Desconocida was flipped by UWU who has one member and that member is alt of a VCO clan member.   This goes deeper than just one clan. I really don't care about a punishment, but the Devs need to make a call and roll these ports back to Neutral when the next hotfix is deployed.

How many more ports will be flipped by exploiters that just want to be toxic to other players?

I wouldn't say they want to be toxic just want pvp closer

[Sir Texas Sir]

11 minutes ago, Oli Garchy said:

I wouldn't say they want to be toxic just want pvp closer

Than do like every one else and use freeports or capture some ports (legit wise).  They are lazy and want to skip the rules to get PvP.  Which isn't testing it's exploiting.  You don't get a skip go and straight to boardwalk just cause you don't feel like doing the game.  Other wise take the long sail out there.  They can do the same PvP as every one else has to and capture ports or sail a long distance.

Edited May 1, 2019 by Sir Texas Sir

[qw569😳]

1 hour ago, huliotkd said:

permaban for Reverse,permaban for WTF started hostility exploited mission, demote all BF and WTF clan (the action of 1 will touch all other players) to midshipman , reset ports to previous nation (also St. Mary to neutral or USA), reset all BF ports to starting level.

Lol

This feature was introduced after implemented hostility mission in game.

Why no one report when one clan took hostility mission but PB set up for another clan?

And now you want ban players which use one of function of the game.

Edited May 1, 2019 by qw569

[van der Clam]

1 minute ago, qw569 said:

Lol

This feature was introduced after implemented hostility mission in game.

Why no one report when one clan took hostility mission but PB set up for another clan?

 

I had no idea about it until now because it never showed up. It may have happened, but Frontlines was designed to make exactly that....frontlines. It was not designed and developed to be useless within seconds. If so, then wow what a complete waste of dev time.

[Sir Texas Sir]

3 minutes ago, van der Decken said:

I had no idea about it until now because it never showed up. It may have happened, but Frontlines was designed to make exactly that....frontlines. It was not designed and developed to be useless within seconds. If so, then wow what a complete waste of dev time.

I knew about doing that but didn't even think of it. It was how we took the french ports back on Global, dans brought us missions and we jumped in them and flipped the ports.  We may or may not of done it with Dutch ports too.

We are happy they found the loop around and the first one with legacy missions was hotfixed. We are glad this one was found and Devs are planing to hotfix it by the end of the week. The thing we have problem with is the continue of doing the exploit and keeping the product of such exploits after they where found out and reported.

[Galt]

34 minutes ago, huliotkd said:

port weren't neutral, was GB and my clan dropped it due to exploit. the only one who can set the PB was Pirates and it went to BF clan, russian...so it is an exploit.

Wait, please walk me through this: you knew there was an exploit where you could raise hostility on any port, and this is the part I don't get, so you dropped some ports?

If that's the case then you really don't have a place to complain because you clearly didn't want the port anyways. 

22 minutes ago, van der Decken said:

The only reason this is still going on is because they won't make a decision on it. They only close the thread. We need a ruling immediately before more people quit and refuse to test Frontlines.

If people are going to quit over something like this then it was only a matter of time to begin with. That stems from an inability to remain focused in an evolving dev environment and they should not be QAing games to begin with. They should only play games that have been released. 

[huliotkd]

22 minutes ago, Galt said:

Wait, please walk me through this: you knew there was an exploit where you could raise hostility on any port, and this is the part I don't get, so you dropped some ports?

If that's the case then you really don't have a place to complain because you clearly didn't want the port anyways. 

we dropped our port Santiago because it was exploited. we don't fight exploited battle. isn't correct, isn't fun

[Galt]

1 minute ago, huliotkd said:

we dropped our port Santiago because it was exploited. we don't fight exploited battle. isn't correct, isn't fun

It's literally how things have been for the last two years. To say it isn't fun is to say that the game hasn't been fun. I get being peeved at the exploit but to just not defend it is on you. You didn't lose a port,  you literally threw it out before they even had the chance to take it. 

[Meraun]

2 hours ago, huliotkd said:

the previous thread has been locked for review...so what are the Devs decision?  all the evidence is inside previous thread, also Reverse streaming video

and Russians took Santiago the cuba instead not using exploited PB..

i ask for a punishment same for SORRY clan: 

permaban for Reverse,permaban for WTF started hostility exploited mission, demote all BF and WTF clan (the action of 1 will touch all other players) to midshipman , reset ports to previous nation (also St. Mary to neutral or USA), reset all BF ports to starting level

looks like WO clan deserve same punishment for Jeremie PB

I hope they fix it soon.

Edited May 1, 2019 by Meraun

[huliotkd]

yeah because they can't take it. only pirates could, but they exploited all the mechanic. 

i don't fight then, because i don't recognize this battle as legit

[Barbancourt]

Time for the banhammer.  Clean up the server. 

[Dibbler (Retired)]

14 minutes ago, Barbancourt said:

Time for the banhammer.  Clean up the server. 

 

 I wouldn't say a ban maybe losing ranks, but is up to Devs really.

 Continuing to use same bugs is just infantile.

 Test will prove to be a fail anyway,  soon every ship will have stacked port bonuses. Already i am seeing the effects while in a lowly herc, whole fleets of super buffed ships is turning game into "Dreadnought action".  No buffs will mean fodder, and yes has always kinda been that way but now has gone from an advantage to no point fighting in substandard ships.  New guys now will have impossible time being camped, was bad enough before but with all new bonuses I think will prove a barrier to new players and server pop will suffer over time (more than it already has) going from anemic to critical levels.

 Buffs need to be lower, also only allow a port to specialise in only  1-2 areas for ship build.

 Personally i don't play the meta game, and am finding loss of will to play on PvP server after seeing the early effects of all this. 

 Am sure will be balanced/fixed but currently is somewhat a bit of a mess all round.

 

 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Dibbler

[huliotkd]

4 minutes ago, Meraun said:

Looks like you want time line them up infront of a Wall. Demote to midshipman? ITS GETTING WIPED ANYWAY? your ranks as well. Fix the exploit and be done with it

no it's not enought.

their behavior prevents me from playing this game according to its characteristics.
if fronts are to be used, anything other than that prevents some players from playing the game until the wipe and as long as these exploiters exist.
these players will always use exploits because it is in their mentality to violate the rules and therefore they must not be tolerated.
very simple

[van der Clam]

Honestly, no punishment should be given due to the fact that the devs refuse to make a decision about it. Maybe this is being done to give credence to the complete wipe before going live. Maybe the exploiters are trying to ruin the game so much just so we all feel better about a complete wipe. Or just maybe the exploiters don't know any other way to win other than to use exploits.

[Preechur Blackheart]

I am not in favor of punishment, but I am in favor of a simple reversion of ports taken by exploit to neutral status, so we can test the mechanic of frontlines the way it was intended to be. No need for 'punishment'...just fairness.

[Dibbler (Retired)]

16 minutes ago, Preechur Blackheart said:

I am not in favor of punishment, but I am in favor of a simple reversion of ports taken by exploit to neutral status, so we can test the mechanic of frontlines the way it was intended to be. No need for 'punishment'...just fairness.

 

  Sadly from time to time it is necessary for devs to be harsh on players abusing mechanics, if nothing else just to re-establish control and create worry about exploiting.

  No action and you have situation like we currently have where some players feel themselves to be "untouchable" and do whatever the hell they want.

  Seen it in other game testing, and sometimes a bit of whip is needed to make playerbase police themselves.

 Like i said earlier 1st time "testing", 2nd time Griefing, 3rd time childish/infantile.

 Perhaps strip continuing offenders of all ships/resources, that would make people squeal somewhat .

 

 Isn't a personal vendatta thing as i get on quite well with some of the guilty, but things have gone a step to far i feel and some action should be taken.

 

 

 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Dibbler

[huliotkd]

14 minutes ago, Preechur Blackheart said:

I am not in favor of punishment, but I am in favor of a simple reversion of ports taken by exploit to neutral status, so we can test the mechanic of frontlines the way it was intended to be. No need for 'punishment'...just fairness.

devs banned LV and many other players for same action, same use of exploit, same behaviour.  

now they have to ban their beloved Golden Boy...because he did same things someone else has been banned and demoted for

[Dibbler (Retired)]

4 minutes ago, huliotkd said:

devs banned LV and many other players for same action, same use of exploit, same behaviour.  

now they have to ban their beloved Golden Boy...because he did same things someone else has been banned and demoted for

 

 I would say a total ban in testing would be a bit to harsh.

Perhaps as i suggested losing all ships and resources would hurt some as  something to disuade this kind of behaviour.

Like when a child is naughty, take away their toys.

 

 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Dibbler