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17 hours ago, admin said:

all good points
will be done. Only rare ships (that we want to be rare like Christian, Endymion or Niagara or Santisima) should stay with permits. The permits as sinks are detrimental and counterproductive. There must be good counters freely available like Agamemnon vs Rattvisan
 

Thanks @admin. Good to hear. The current system frustrates me. Some rare ships are ok, but PLS make all ships buyable one way or another. No ships, or perhaps only one or two special ships,  should be ships that can only be built by randomly finding permits in shipwrecks or chests. I dont care if the prize is high for the rare ships, like 100 combat marks for a Christian, but we should be able to craft them, not only find them in a shipwreck after getting 30 bottles.

(I still want to try to sail the Christian. The current system does not allow me to ever sail her.)

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This mess could be easily avoided by reducing the number of currencies. 4 currencies serve no purpose. 2 is more than enough!

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On 4/16/2019 at 5:39 AM, admin said:

all good points
will be done. Only rare ships (that we want to be rare like Christian, Endymion or Niagara or Santisima) should stay with permits. The permits as sinks are detrimental and counterproductive. There must be good counters freely available like Agamemnon vs Rattvisan

@adminThis is very good to see, I am in favor of a hand full of reward permits... most ships should be easily craftable at most players fingertips except the line ships. I think most 5th rates should not require a permit if the 5th rate mounts anything smaller than a 24 pound gun. Any ship that mounts a 24 pound or larger gun on its lower most gun deck should require a permit in my opinion,.

But if you were to leave just say 4 or 5 specific ships as special combat rewards then that would be really cool. Just need to keep the bulk of the light frigate/privateering navy available to anyone that would wish to craft these small and fast ships. Heavy frigates(24 pound) and line ships could still require permits. In my book this would be ok.

 

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On 4/16/2019 at 7:14 AM, Koveras said:

Why not make them DLC ships instead then? Or make all DLC ships available by rare permits?

@adminThis is interesting... this woul also make a lot of players happy that they could run a chance at getting a one time use version of a said DLC ship... it would also help to advertise the DLCs a little too.

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Permits will be updated next patch. Do not spend marks or VMs on permits meanwhile.

The following changes will be applied

  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara
  • All other vessels will lose permit requirements and will be crafteable
  • Rare permits will be added to Gold and Silver chests so you can have a chance to earn them in PVE activities.
  • PvP Admiral chest and Captain chest will have a 100% drop chance for one of the rare permits
    • Admiral chest: line ships + 4th rates
    • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates
  • In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).
    • Rattvisan - 300 cm
    • L'Hermione - 200 cm
    • Hercules - 150 cm
    • Le Requin - 150 cm
       
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4 minutes ago, admin said:

Permits will be updated next patch. Do not spend marks or VMs on permits meanwhile.

The following changes will be applied

  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara
  • All other vessels will lose permit requirements and will be crafteable
  • Rare permits will be added to Gold and Silver chests so you can have a chance to earn them in PVE activities.
  • PvP Admiral chest and Captain chest will have a 100% drop chance for one of the rare permits
    • Admiral chest: line ships + 4th rates
    • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates
  • In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).
    • Rattvisan - 300 cm
    • L'Hermione - 200 cm
    • Hercules - 150 cm
    • Le Requin - 150 cm
       

Well, this looks far more reasonable that we had before.

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7 minutes ago, admin said:

Permits will be updated next patch. Do not spend marks or VMs on permits meanwhile.

The following changes will be applied

  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara
  • All other vessels will lose permit requirements and will be crafteable
  • Rare permits will be added to Gold and Silver chests so you can have a chance to earn them in PVE activities.
  • PvP Admiral chest and Captain chest will have a 100% drop chance for one of the rare permits
    • Admiral chest: line ships + 4th rates
    • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates
  • In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).
    • Rattvisan - 300 cm
    • L'Hermione - 200 cm
    • Hercules - 150 cm
    • Le Requin - 150 cm
       

I would like ask how about the LGV Refit, it will be craftable as well?

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15 minutes ago, admin said:

In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).

  • Rattvisan - 300 cm
  • L'Hermione - 200 cm
  • Hercules - 150 cm
  • Le Requin - 150 cm

 

Verrrry interesting!  I notice that the Pandora is not on this list.  Intentional as it was a gift to testers?  Also, we still don't know where LGVR (and jimmy Hoffa) has disappeared to.  Very good decision, I must say.

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17 minutes ago, admin said:

Permits will be updated next patch. Do not spend marks or VMs on permits meanwhile.

The following changes will be applied

  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara
  • All other vessels will lose permit requirements and will be crafteable
  • Rare permits will be added to Gold and Silver chests so you can have a chance to earn them in PVE activities.
  • PvP Admiral chest and Captain chest will have a 100% drop chance for one of the rare permits
    • Admiral chest: line ships + 4th rates
    • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates
  • In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).
    • Rattvisan - 300 cm
    • L'Hermione - 200 cm
    • Hercules - 150 cm
    • Le Requin - 150 cm
       

Very nice

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24 minutes ago, admin said:
  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara
  • All other vessels will lose permit requirements and will be crafteable
  • Rare permits will be added to Gold and Silver chests so you can have a chance to earn them in PVE activities.
  • PvP Admiral chest and Captain chest will have a 100% drop chance for one of the rare permits
    • Admiral chest: line ships + 4th rates
    • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates

Hello Admin

You Say 10 ships....I count 9 ?

i don't see any 4th rates in rare ship , and you are talking  about 4th rate permit ???

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  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara

last time I check, its 9 not 10, did you guys miss one?

 

Admiral chest: line ships + 4th rates

  • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates
  • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates

Great + 4Th rate, what do you mean, a rare 4th? they is none in your list, or a permit to craft a 4th that you actually don´t need permit for dixit yourself?

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28 minutes ago, admin said:

Permits will be updated next patch. Do not spend marks or VMs on permits meanwhile.

The following changes will be applied

  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara
  • All other vessels will lose permit requirements and will be crafteable
  • Rare permits will be added to Gold and Silver chests so you can have a chance to earn them in PVE activities.
  • PvP Admiral chest and Captain chest will have a 100% drop chance for one of the rare permits
    • Admiral chest: line ships + 4th rates
    • Captain chest: lightships frigates + 4th rates
  • In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).
    • Rattvisan - 300 cm
    • L'Hermione - 200 cm
    • Hercules - 150 cm
    • Le Requin - 150 cm
       

Nice but you need very high prices for the dlc ships. 

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On 4/16/2019 at 2:51 PM, Tom Farseer said:

The natural non-permit alternative I see is the Cerberus. Directly comparing the base stats of each ship shows that while generally lacking in firepower, the Cerberus is remarkably similar to the Hercules in most aspects.

What aspects, maybe the size of ships? Otherwise, we might be playing totally different games.

Hercules has greater speed, greater firepower, greater turning, 4 chasers more (Cerberus has no bow chasers). 

To make it more funny, Hercules has 5 more crew and it needs 17 less crew on sailing, has stronger masts (more HP) + masts are very thin compared to Cerberus' masts (hard to hit). 

So what do we have left? Cerberus has 10 BR less and 500 HP more. If we compare the numbers much more closely in terms of % difference, it will be hard to not to say that Hercules is superior to Cerberus.

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31 minutes ago, admin said:

The following changes will be applied

  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Santisima
    • Christian
    • Bellona
    • Constitution
    • Endymion
    • Renommee
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
    • Niagara

Rare ships... meaning when you're a casual, you can't even sail a Rattle or a Renommée !

31 minutes ago, admin said:

 

  • In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).
    • Rattvisan - 300 cm
    • L'Hermione - 200 cm
    • Hercules - 150 cm
    • Le Requin - 150 cm

You bought a ship as DLC and then everybody hardcore gamers can have her in game for free... Very rewarding to buy ship DLCs...

Focus on hardcore gamers who can spend H24 in game and clans...

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10 minutes ago, John Hill Regard said:

don't see any 4th rates in rare ship , and you are talking  about 4th rate permit ???

They probably forgot that USS Constitution is a 3rd rate :) It's easy to loose track if you keep changing the rating of many ships every few weeks or months.

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37 minutes ago, admin said:

Permits will be updated next patch. Do not spend marks or VMs on permits meanwhile.

The following changes will be applied

  • Only 10 ships will remain rare (we want them to be rare and precious), some performance stats for those vessels will be improved (especially rattles, niagara and constitution)
    • Rattlesnake
    • Rattlesnake heavy
  • In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).
    • Rattvisan - 300 cm
    • L'Hermione - 200 cm
    • Hercules - 150 cm
    • Le Requin - 150 cm
       

@admin Why both rattlesnakes? And is the 10th ship a mystery...possibly new ship? :)

Also, I like the idea of "premium ships" being purchasable with an in-game currency. It's like in WoT, you can just buy premium tanks or do in-game activities to get cold to buy the tanks. Perhaps, these premium ships should cost VMs and CMs to make it fit like WoT Clan Wars/Tournaments?

9 minutes ago, John Hill Regard said:

Hello Admin

You Say 10 ships....I count 9 ?

i don't see any 4th rates in rare ship , and you are talking  about 4th rate permit ???

Cheer's

There are only 5 4th rates...maybe there will be a new one. :)

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9 minutes ago, LeBoiteux said:

You bought a ship as DLC and then everybody hardcore gamers can have her in game for free... Very rewarding to buy ship DLCs...

I would assume craftable DLC have only one life, while bought DLC is repeatably redeemable....

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59 minutes ago, admin said:

In addition to that (long overdue) the following ship notes will be added to the admiralty for combat medals for captains who wish to get those ships by in game means. (Prices are not final and might get adapted).

  • Rattvisan - 300 cm
  • L'Hermione - 200 cm
  • Hercules - 150 cm
  • Le Requin - 150 cm

 

Will those 'note'-ships be capturable? As they are not dlc ... they should be capturable? (But how will we see the difference?)

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34 minutes ago, John Hill Regard said:

Hello Admin

You Say 10 ships....I count 9 ?

 

Indefatigable

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29 minutes ago, LeBoiteux said:

 

You bought a ship as DLC and then everybody hardcore gamers can have her in game for free... Very rewarding to buy ship DLCs...

Focus on hardcore gamers who can spend H24 in game and clans...

Thats just a note with 1 durability  - for test drive, or quick action if you really really need that ship now (and do not have DLC)..
it does remove some concerns about them only available for hard cash. You can get them in game too. 

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Just now, admin said:

Thats just a note with 1 durability  - for test drive, or quick action if you really really need that ship now (and do not have DLC)..
it does remove some concerns about them only available for hard cash. You can get them in game too. 

As a DLC owner I don't object...as long as the price is high in CM's. 

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7 minutes ago, admin said:

Indefatigable

Will all the British ships be getting HMS added to their names and the US ships getting USS added to match the USS United States?

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