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1 minute ago, admin said:

Wasa class had multiple ships in it and several of them were called 3rd rates by three decks and several are called 4th rates. We made the mistake using that website and made wasa 4th rate first.. Then we nerfed it.. then it was found that chronprins was a 3rd rate (but wasa was not). So it was reclassed. 
I do not know how to explain. It not funny because of that mistake we had to make wasa again, but we found a better sounding name in that class group. Rettvizan sounds better than both adolf and wasa.

Noone here is discussing about the Kronprins ūü§∑‚Äć‚ôāÔłŹ (See post above...)

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Just now, Wilhelm von Seydlitz said:

People come down again ūüôā Then the ship is not a 3th rate but a 4 th rate, does not matter .... Let's test it and then we can get upset.
However, we should also think of the opportunity players and make the rare woods accessible again (also for solo players)

that's not the point that's being made here,

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5 minutes ago, Tom Farseer said:

You are missing the point, mate... Rättvisan is de facto a 3rd rate. End of story^^

Stats define the ship not some website. De facto i can make it 100hp and call it a light first rate. What will threedecks say on this? I do not care 

I like the rettvisan name better. Just like Cherub frigate.¬† Do you know why cherub frigate is called cherub - –•–Ķ—Ä—É–≤–ł–ľ?? Because its an anagram that works if you remove one letter from the word, anagram perfect for a pirate frigate.¬†

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Why even argue?  Sounds like it’s already made and will happen.  Promises have been broken before.  People will still end up buying it because 3rd rates (or 4th rates...) will be difficult to build and its easier to pay 15 bucks and get a free one everyday. 

It’s a win win for admin.  

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Just to get the history straight...

there was only one Wasa-class ship, the Wasa. Then were was the Gustav Adolph-class with 10 ships total (including the Rättvisan).

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1 minute ago, Tom Farseer said:

sad but true...
by the way: locking that thread of banisheds: not the best PR idea... he makes some valid points there, whatever you think of them...

it contained to many facts and had to be closed 

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1 minute ago, Socialism said:

Why even argue?  Sounds like it’s already made and will happen.  Promises have been broken before.  People will still end up buying it because 3rd rates (or 4th rates...) will be difficult to build and its easier to pay 15 bucks and get a free one everyday. 

It’s a win win for admin.  

I like dlc ships 

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3 minutes ago, Black veil said:

that's not the point that's being made here,

The point is that Wasa is a 4th rate.

8 minutes ago, Tom Farseer said:

You are missing the point, mate... Rättvisan is de facto a 3rd rate. End of story^^

Same answer. According to your sources Wasa is a 4th rate. Rettvizan is just a name. I should have called Kate, or Elizabeth or both, but I called her Rettvisan, because nordic countries like Rettvisan AND russians like Retvizan too. (russian viking hero) + Its a nice cross reference our other game on dreadnaughts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Retvizan

 

Hope you will not get attached to names. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_capital_ships_of_Sweden#Wasa_class

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5 minutes ago, McKillen said:

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@admin May want to change your steam description then. "Hadcore fantasy" Not very realistic ignoring facts from a source you use for many other ships.

I get you dont like to see your ideas be disliked by so many but what stops you just releasing this ship as normal, and rather give us some other ship as DLC. Would be a lot more painless to admit your mistake.

 
If you look for any age of sail blueprint this forum comes up. Search age of sail, our screens and videos come up.
We at GL have the biggest collection of age of sail literature in eastern europe (bigger than most museums).
I am sorry but we are the source.

Retvisan is in Wasa class. I will make it a 4th rate. You don't like it. What do you think will happen?  It will carry 24lb and will be on par with other 4th rates. Wasa(Gustav Adolf will be buffed) i will keep wasa name for him because I like it more. 

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Will permits for most ships be available in the Admiralty shops, right now I don't see permits for the Bellona, Indef and others. 

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I have a question.

Some days ago you put paints DLC and now another DLC?

It might not be your intention, but it sounds to me like you are trying to milk the low player base you still have playing the game.

Why didn't you wait some days in order to not sound like money grabbers?

If you keep going the DLC way, when the game is eventually released new players may be afraid of a game with a lot of DLCs + 40 bucks for the game and not even consider the purchase.

But it's only my opinion. 

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2 minutes ago, admin said:

It will carry 24lb and will be on par with other 4th rates. Wasa(Gustav Adolf will be buffed) i will keep wasa¬†name for him¬†because I¬†like it more.¬† ÔĽŅ

Why not give us this specific set of information directly then? Could've saved ourselves a lot of arguing...

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Just now, Tom Farseer said:

Rätvissan is not the Wasa-Class (60 gun 4th) but improved wasa class ( or Kronprins Gustaf Adolph class) but heyho.. I've made my point....

No you have not. I name the ships ))) Say thank you i have not called her Forsiktigheten. Rettvisan name is picked for importance in multiple countries. 

She will carry 4th rate guns and sail like a 4th rate and will turn like a 4 rate. You can call her anything if this feature will be added.

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4 minutes ago, admin said:

 
If you look for any age of sail blueprint this forum comes up. Search age of sail, our screens and videos come up.
We at GL have the biggest collection of age of sail literature in eastern europe (bigger than most museums).
I am sorry but we are the source.

Retvisan is in Wasa class. I will make it a 4th rate. You don't like it. What do you think will happen?  It will carry 24lb and will be on par with other 4th rates. Wasa(Gustav Adolf will be buffed) i will keep wasa name for him because I like it more. 

on par with other 24lb ships ,,, cough cough United states?

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3 minutes ago, Bubba Smith said:

Will permits for most ships be available in the Admiralty shops, right now I don't see permits for the Bellona, Indef and others. 

You can find the permits in chests 

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Just now, admin said:

 Forsiktigheten

Actually like the sound of that name ūü§£

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2 minutes ago, admin said:

No you have not. I name the ships ))) Say thank you i have not called her Forsiktigheten. Rettvisan name is picked for importance in multiple countries. 

She will carry 4th rate guns and sail like a 4th rate and will turn like a 4 rate. You can call her anything if this feature will be added.

so based on this,, the games rate system means that indefatigable, united states, Diana and Endymion should all be 4th rates? is this correct or are we just saying stuff in the heat of the moment im confused with your clarifications?

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2 minutes ago, admin said:

I name the ships )))

please, forget "Kate¬†Elizabeth"¬†ūüôā

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15 likes for the initial post is exactly the way it goes.....compare it to other, older patch info's

 

so sad.

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26 minutes ago, admin said:

Retvisan

So will it be redeemable with cooldown or only permit?

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10 minutes ago, McKillen said:

Honest answer? You will lose at least 0.2% of your average playerbase (me) and your release will look evermore likely to be a flop as your DLC costs are currently sitting at £45 which is 1.5x the initial game cost. With this DLC being fourth rate i presume it will be planned to have a hefty price tag and along with the other 2 DLC ships i guess there will be roughly over £65 in DLC alone making new players not want to pay £95 to play a game with very poor reviews and wont bother wasting there time with the game. But go ahead, make your money off of the few of us that tried to see this game to success but were driven out and some even banned for being passionate about a game that it seems you have decided is close to dying seeing how many DLCs you are throwing at us. o7

Nothing changed since 2015? Yes. We still need to pay for the game and servers. We do not have subs.

https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/4668-open-world-prototype-rules-of-engagement-ship-loss-and-spawning/?do=findComment&comment=90710

 

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30 minutes ago, _Alucard_ said:

But it's only my opinion.

Well, the amount of DLCs is somewhat getting out of hand for a game that hasn't even been released yet... it would not be the first game to milk what's left of the player base as much as possible, instead of keeping the game updated and improving to get new players in to pay. I still like to hope otherwise but only time will tell...

 

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