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2 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

so lets see how it'll go

1. more crew than any other 4th rate? check
2. likely more HPs than most 4th rates? check
3. more guns? check
4. 3rd rate in 4th rate disguise? check

wow, it's almost like another pay-to-win power creep vessel.

didn't learn a thing since the Requin I see. Only DLC ship that should have been considered would have been the Hermione, even that is a stretch.

A good number of folks have asked for changes to current ships, permits, RoE - but it seems to not be addressed at this time. I only hope something is in the works...

Yet another negative post? check

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55 minutes ago, admin said:
  • L'Hermione - french concorde class frigate
  • Rattvisan (Ретвизан) 24lb gun forth rate

Please..PLEASE make them craftable DLCs, not ship notes...

Make them "Imported ship" so we cannot trade them or capture them, but make it so that the crafting permit is redeemable from the DLC, not the actual ship-note like Hercules/Le Requin.

A 24/48 hour redeemable live/white teak/white 4th rate is going to bring all the problems of the Hercules in the past x10.

Please.

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2 minutes ago, PG Monkey said:

Yet another negative post? check

It seems you only care when i write a negative post instead of a positive one? check.

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  • Making L'Hermione as DLC is a good decision, all around ship which is not OP compared to other 5th rates.
  • Rattvisan (Ретвизан) 24lb gun forth rate ? with 60 guns ? as dlc ... I hope this will not be another LRQ in her class.
  • Former free towns will be added to nearby counties ? Shroud / La Tortue are we losing them as freetowns ? If so what a weird decision...

 

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Rättvisan is a Swedish Wasa-Class third rate, (was later captuered by Russia) but okey-dokey, whatever you say... 4th rate it is...

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2 minutes ago, Aerospace said:
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  • Former free towns will be added to nearby counties ? Shroud / La Tortue are we losing them as freetowns ? If so what a weird decision...

 

thats why we said FORMER free towns. (like la navasse or hat island)

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Only input I can give is to say how ridiculous... a clear 3rd rate and u make it a 4th yet u make the Connie a 3rd rate yet it's a super frigate not ship of the line.... in all seriousness what's going on here?

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2 minutes ago, Tom Farseer said:

Rättvisan is a Swedish Wasa-Class third rate, (was later captuered by Russia) but okey-dokey, whatever you say... 4th rate it is...

https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10979

wasa class was part 4th rate/part 3rd rate

Wasa was a 4rth rate
Gustav Adolf was a third rate. In game Wasa is Gustav Adolf. Hope you get the gist.

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10 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

so lets see how it'll go

1. more crew than any other 4th rate? check
2. likely more HPs than most 4th rates? check
3. more guns? check
4. 3rd rate in 4th rate disguise? check

wow, it's almost like another pay-to-win power creep vessel.

didn't learn a thing since the Requin I see. Only DLC ship that should have been considered would have been the Hermione, even that is a stretch.

A good number of folks have asked for changes to current ships, permits, RoE - but it seems to not be addressed at this time. I only hope something is in the works...

I fell your pain, yet a bit of hope remains. The formerly blatantly overpowered Hercules and Requin got nerfed to a point where Le Requin while still top of it's class is very beatable by several other shallow water ships (e.g. all shallow 5ths except maybe Herc) or Niagara if you know how to evade boarding. The Herc is now such a glass cannon, sailing it needs a lot of skill if you want to survive longer than 5 minutes.
Let's hope the Hermione stays largely untouched. And the Rätvissan must not be redeemable like a ship note! This will completely break resource/crafting economy!

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10 minutes ago, PG Monkey said:

Yet another negative post? check

More blind acceptance? Check.

He brings up valid points, dispute them rather than post snide comments.

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Players that do not want to bother with crafting always welcome "ships on demand" options, so no surprise they welcome more DLC options.

BTW, rank 3 for game purposes is not the same as ship of the line 4th rate. I think everyone might be a bit confuses with the ranks at the present.

Game rank =/= RN rank

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5 minutes ago, admin said:

https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10979

wasa class was part 4th rate/part 3rd rate

Wasa was a 4rth rate
Gustav Adolf was a third rate. In game Wasa is Gustav Adolf. Hope you get the gist.

What defines ship rate clasification? Our imagination, historical rating system, or...?

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8 minutes ago, admin said:

https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10979

wasa class was part 4th rate/part 3rd rate

Wasa was a 4rth rate
Gustav Adolf was a third rate. In game Wasa is Gustav Adolf. Hope you get the gist.

I get the gist but, common man, the very website you just linked states the Rättvisan as a 3rd rate, both in Swedish and Russian service:
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If you want to bring her ingame as a 4th rate DLC, be my guest.
But please, please, please make sure that she is balanced against other 4ths and not another Uber-OP-Wasa disaster. (Though after being nerfed so hard Wasa still could use a little speed-boost :P , or just less of a speed-nerf than other SoLs will hopefully get in the future...)

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@admin we get a 4th rate DLC ship. I don't like it but ok, whatever. Depends on what cooldown it has TBH.

A problem I see tho, if data is correct. (maybe its not since it is labeled as 3rd rate in gamefiles) These data have a lot of reds on the agamemnon side. why does the DLC ship has to be the best of its class again?

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1 minute ago, rediii said:

@admin we get a 4th rate DLC ship. I don't like it but ok, whatever. Depends on what cooldown it has TBH.

A problem I see tho, if data is correct. (maybe its not since it is labeled as 3rd rate in gamefiles) These data have a lot of reds on the agamemnon side. why does the DLC ship has to be the best of its class again?

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My guess is to give it a thorough testing before nerfing the ~~~~ out of it but i've been wrong before

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DLCs need not be P2W. Fortnite has the DLC idea right...let DLCs mainly be focused around cosmetics, not P2W equipment. I don't mind the best ships in class to be rare and found only in special chests, but please don't make them be only available in DLC.

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4 minutes ago, Tom Farseer said:

I get the gist but, common man, the very website you just linked states the Rätvissan as a 3rd rate, both in Swedish and Russian service:
image.png.d646cbc794f144c88ca4beba4f1493de.png
If you want to bring her ingame as a 4th rate DLC, be my guest.
But please, please, please make sure that she is balanced against other 4ths and not another Uber-OP-Wasa disaster. (Though after being nerfed so hard Wasa still could use a little speed-boost :P , or just less of a speed-nerf than other SoLs will hopefully get in the future...)

Tbh the problem with the wasa was the redicilous hold size, feels good now 😊

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4 minutes ago, Tom Farseer said:

I fell your pain, yet a bit of hope remains. The formerly blatantly overpowered Hercules and Requin got nerfed to a point where Le Requin while still top of it's class is very beatable by several other shallow water ships (e.g. all shallow 5ths except maybe Herc) or Niagara if you know how to evade boarding. The Herc is now such a glass cannon, sailing it needs a lot of skill if you want to survive longer than 5 minutes.
Let's hope the Hermione stays largely untouched. And the Rätvissan must not be redeemable like a ship note! This will completely break resource/crafting economy!

I hope - I have, I like parts of the game enough to play.

but I've also been through iterations of the game where the Herc and Requin were literal cancer.

The Hercules is fine now (it only took forever)....Even now - the Requin is still too powerful. 

When you start seeing groups smarten up and grind Shallow Water ports with 10 man Requin teams, I think you'll understand just how silly it is at this moment. groups who are still trying to grind shallow water ports with lineships are wasting their time.

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Dont worry girls were gonna sail connie for portbattles later on because they are 3rd rates

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6 minutes ago, van der Decken said:

DLCs need not be P2W. Fortnite has the DLC idea right...let DLCs mainly be focused around cosmetics, not P2W equipment. I don't mind the best ships in class to be rare and found only in special chests, but please don't make them be only available in DLC.

Yea but if they aren’t a bit more OP, no one will buy them.  

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