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I live in the US (west coast) and am looking for a player base that is operational during PST evenings and weekends and utilizes VOIP most of the time.

I'm currently sailing in Sweden but am afraid that because I work during the day I'll be out of many large actions during the week due to time zone conflicts.

Any thoughts and/or advice are much appreciated.

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You can always switch over to US to play for a bit.  GB has a pretty big US player base too.  Though I'll be honest with you many of us in the US nation are thinking of switching nations when the big wipe/release happens.  So with that in mind you might want to wait and see how things go.  Folks are just getting tired of being stuck in a corner with half the nations farming them and refusing to fight each other in that time zone.

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hey @RyebreadMike

as Marrius post suggests BORK is primarily a US tz group in Sweden. we are part of the Swedish Council and operate with the European conglomerate whenever we can, usually that means weekends.

While the US tz is small in the swedish nation we also operate with another clan called "THOR" and we regularly do activities together ranging from group mission/fleets, to OW PvP fleets, to the occasional Port Battle.

If you're interested, then don't hesitate to contact us :).

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The pm French are probably good for your tz. WO/BLANC/Me all work during the day so we cant be on until quite late. Feel free to reach out if you're thinking about a switch. However, I am not sure what the playerbase will look like post wipe. 

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3 hours ago, RyebreadMike said:

I live in the US (west coast) and am looking for a player base that is operational during PST evenings and weekends and utilizes VOIP most of the time.

I'm currently sailing in Sweden but am afraid that because I work during the day I'll be out of many large actions during the week due to time zone conflicts.

Any thoughts and/or advice are much appreciated.

Join Reds Clan in the Russia nation . We have players from all over the world. Usa east and West coast aswell

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15 hours ago, Socialism said:

Come Pirate or France and win.  Everyone else loses or quits every 2 months and will leave ya hanging.    

But the problem is they don't fight each other.  You do know you can avoid the drama and still fight after all?  

15 hours ago, Wraith said:

Yeah, Pirates are sort of the scrappy underdogs of the US night crew but with us there are plenty of targets.  It's disappointing to hear the US will empty out.. but wherever those players go hopefully they'll have better leadership than they had in that nation. :P 

I think from those I have spoken to it's mostly folks wanting a change.  You can only get beat on so much before you just give up or move on.  Though I'll promise you one thing certain folks won't be following along with us and I'm sure you can figure out who those folks are.  Hell I still haven't picked where I'm going, but that is more a question when the release comes.

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1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

But the problem is they don't fight each other.  You do know you can avoid the drama and still fight after all?  

I think from those I have spoken to it's mostly folks wanting a change.  You can only get beat on so much before you just give up or move on.  Though I'll promise you one thing certain folks won't be following along with us and I'm sure you can figure out who those folks are.  Hell I still haven't picked where I'm going, but that is more a question when the release comes.

There will be plenty of movement of players nearer to and at release , that's for sure. You first comment reminds me that there is probably more fighting within nations than between them right now. Trying to get anybody involved in anything could be entirely futile once we know when release will be

 

You feel that the USA has a more difficult time due to map placement ? Lack of a nearby Freeport ? and a treacherous route to get anywhere else ?

 

Or is it a problem connected to the players ?

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2 hours ago, Vizzini said:

You feel that the USA has a more difficult time due to map placement ? Lack of a nearby Freeport ? and a treacherous route to get anywhere else ?

 

Or is it a problem connected to the players ?

The problem is not just one thing.  Location doesn't help as it's back into a corner, but it was doing healthy for a while but that never last for long.  The problem mainly falls on players.  Good players get fed up and go to other nations cause of lack of organization and skill of other players.  Those that do fight get burned out.  They are easy targets for more expierenced players that tend to not want to fight each other (Hint the mention of French and Pirates not fighting).  Most of the US prime time good PvP/RvR players leave to go to other nations, but the problem is they turn around and bash on the very nation they left and for the reason they left.   At one time there was 3-4 nations out side of every port battle screening US out of them and sinking them.  All while not one of those 3-4 nations would fight each other.  The constant farming of the coast wears players down.  You can tell when it was getting bad that even KoC would lay off and go to other hunting grounds cause folks like Raxus and such switched nations and continue to farm.   I don't know why when folks leave a nation they got to hate on it so much.  Or even more they hate on the casuals, PvE, and RPers like they did something wrong to them.   So what if folks want to be casual players or RP, this game is made for all types of folks. If you don't like it than just do your thing.  Those casuals wand RPers and the ones that fill the cannon fobber numbers and do the bulk of the trade and runs, but soon they die off and don't return.

Chris Roberts put it great a while back in an interview about why SC will have 20% players and 80% AI (I heard it's also 10%/90% split in the past).  Cause when you have PvP there is always a winner and a looser.  The problem is when it begins to not be balanced and one side is mostly the looser.  Loosing isn't fun, when we aren't having fun we stop playing.  They don't want folks to not have fun and stop playing.   It's something this game needs to understand or it will never keep a large player base.  Hint the reason folks are wanting to go other nations (many of them don't have DLC or forge papers so that is why they are waiting for release).   They aren't having fun any more and when folks aren't having fun they go play other games or stop playing this one all together.  Hint why the severs numbers are so low.

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8 hours ago, RyebreadMike said:

yep, I've been borked ... I may never be the same again.

 

When they quit in a month come pirates.  Black don’t crack baby

5 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

But the problem is they don't fight each other.  You do know you can avoid the drama and still fight after all?  

We’ve fought WO for the better part of 2 years on multiple servers and nations.  You never did seem to show to those battles when we were pirate, Russian or US.  Curious that....

Up until this most recent disaster patch pirates had content regularly by being attacked constantly GB and the US.  You never showed up for those fights either....curious.  We even occasionally got attacked by Spain.  We’ve had so much content that the absence of not fighting WO hasn’t diminished our activity.  

I do however feel like if you’re going to criticize others for doing to the US what you did in BLACK for a couple of years you should at least show up to PBS and help your nation.  Or just be the forum warrior we know you to be.  

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9 minutes ago, Socialism said:

When they quit in a month come pirates.  Black don’t crack baby

We’ve fought WO for the better part of 2 years on multiple servers and nations.  You never did seem to show to those battles when we were pirate, Russian or US.  Curious that....

Up until this most recent disaster patch pirates had content regularly by being attacked constantly GB and the US.  You never showed up for those fights either....curious.  We even occasionally got attacked by Spain.  We’ve had so much content that the absence of not fighting WO hasn’t diminished our activity.  

I do however feel like if you’re going to criticize others for doing to the US what you did in BLACK for a couple of years you should at least show up to PBS and help your nation.  Or just be the forum warrior we know you to be.  

I been to plenty a port battles.  Screened a  good number of them, but funny I don't remember you being at them?   If you can remember right CSA actually owned most of the US ports at one time, VCO didn't own crap until ya'll went pirates and numbers where down.   Most of those battles while yes VCO helped I really don't remember you being in any of them.  

 In fact didn't you take a very long time off from playing yourself?  So how was you in all those battles?  Cause I'm pretty sure you stopped playing for a good part of that time?   If you like i can post a bunch of screen shots of CSA/VCO in port battles and your not in any of them.   I'm in them so is Chris, Teutonic, Amp,  Vodka and many others, but you are not in any of them.  The last time I seen you in a port battle until recently was before the merge.  If I remember right that was when you stopped playing other than popping in once in a blue moon for a port battle here or there when needed. 

I didn't come here to cause a sling fight.  The fact is ya'll bitch about not getting content and fights and you refuse to fight the only big prime time PvP/RvR force in your time zones.  If your not going to fight each other than don't bitch about lack of fights.

Oh and as for any recent fights in the last year, you do know I work nights, so when most port battles and fights happen I'm at work.  I have shown up to screen some before work but couldn't stay.  Which would be why you might not seen me recently in anything.  You know some of us do think our jobs are more important.   If the fights on a weekend I try to make it.   That why I made it to Marsh Harbour, but couldn't make it to LR or Harbour Island when they where flipped.   

And I criticize others for doing what BLACK did cause I was there and I saw what damage it did to that server and player base.  I learned from that, something others seem to not get in there head if they want a healthy player base and competition in a game.  Before the wipe and ya'll came along from EU server I was very vocal about how we treated US and GB.  That is why when most of the officers stopped playing at the wipe and for lack of numbers I switched the means that BLACK fought GB/US.  This is also why I went US to help them out.  Instead of giving up and running and than bashing them as easy targets like some one else does.  I mean how many nations has VCO been in?   You talk about others giving up or jumping ship?   If any of ya'll had real skill you wouldn't give up and run and than bash the nation you just left cause a few casuals and RPers don't want to work with you.  DO like others do, just ignore them and do your thing.  I'm one of the first to tell you I think the senate while having clan meetings is good for a nation, but other wise it's a joke and that is why it doesn't work in a game like this.  Can't have a bunch of guys that don't show up regular or fight/PvP/RvR lead from the back.

But here is a good thing, most of those talking about leaving US are not going Pirate or French so maybe that will spread things out some more and give the game more people to fight each other in US prime time if the numbers go up when the game releases.

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22 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

I been to plenty a port battles.  Screened a  good number of them, but funny I don't remember you being at them?   If you can remember right CSA actually owned most of the US ports at one time, VCO didn't own crap until ya'll went pirates and numbers where down.   Most of those battles while yes VCO helped I really don't remember you being in any of them.  

 In fact didn't you take a very long time off from playing yourself?  So how was you in all those battles?

Wrong.  

22 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

 

So much text.  

You started the mud slinging with your snide comments.  Don’t back out when you don’t like the change in conversation.

You coveniently seem to show up to battles that don’t involve fighting VCO and are noticeably absent when the battles do involve us.  Odd.  CSA is basically 2 guys now after your entire clan bailed on you and either quit or went pirate.  You yourself stopped playing months ago and only pop on the forum to add your folksy anecdotes about pirates years ago or talk about things you don’t actually participate in.  Blah blah still in US to help them out.  You don’t do port battles, grinds or PVP.  Just another paper leader like Drax.  We left the US to escape useless people and it seems the nation is in even worse shape now.  Good work.

As for WO   We’ve has plenty of content not fighting them and have no desire to take part in triple flipping them to help the US get it’s territory back.  As you saw at Navasse, most of them don’t even play anymore.  Content used to come to use multiple times a week and we’re fine with that 

none of this really matters anymore since the OP has made a decision.  I would however warn the OP to stay away from the US and/or any nation Texas claims to be helping at the time.  

 

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Actually I've played against, and conversed with Texas over the years and wouldn't mind him having my back .. or in my sights for that matter :).  I can't speak to what you two are sniping about, but I've been around long enough to know the US has had internal and external issues for a long-ass time and it wears on the player-base.  That is showing now.  Texas, I can't remember, but was that you in that REALLY fast Belona outside Aves about a million moons ago when the Dutch or French were defending it?  I 'think' you may have been with the Pirates back then.

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2 hours ago, RyebreadMike said:

Actually I've played against, and conversed with Texas over the years and wouldn't mind him having my back .. or in my sights for that matter :).  I can't speak to what you two are sniping about, but I've been around long enough to know the US has had internal and external issues for a long-ass time and it wears on the player-base.  That is showing now.  Texas, I can't remember, but was that you in that REALLY fast Belona outside Aves about a million moons ago when the Dutch or French were defending it?  I 'think' you may have been with the Pirates back then.

That was many many moons ago so it could have been.  I was with Pirates for most of my time on Global/PvP2.

 

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On 3/7/2019 at 1:51 PM, Socialism said:

I do however feel like if you’re going to criticize others for doing to the US what you did in BLACK for a couple of years you should at least show up to PBS and help your nation.  Or just be the forum warrior we know you to be.  

Dont make Sir Texas bring BLACK back again! We will make you guys cry again! It literally took all nations to shut down BLACK back then. Tread lightly!

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8 minutes ago, HoneyBaddger said:

Dont make Sir Texas bring BLACK back again! We will make you guys cry again! It literally took all nations to shut down BLACK back then. Tread lightly!

What's left of BLACK bailed on Texas and went back to Pirates with us in VCO.  

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8 hours ago, HoneyBaddger said:

Let Texas and a few other s come back and we will see where their loyalty lies!

I'm not BLACK, that was always @7Grams clan.  That is why I dropped it when we merged servers cause it wasn't mine and I wasn't going to keep running it if they weren't going to play and two it would of been used as an example by any one from EU server that had something to prove.  BLACK on PvP2/GLOBAL was dead when the wipe happen as most of the core players stopped playing back than and never truely came back.  All I was doing was keeping a dead horse alive upon @7Grams when @Duncan McFail got burned out running it.  Hell I turned in my resignation before that wipe as I wanted to go solo......that and now that I actually work again I don't have time to run any clans.

9 hours ago, Socialism said:

What's left of BLACK bailed on Texas and went back to Pirates with us in VCO.  

And even though guys aren't original BLACK members, they joined after the wipe.   Pretty much only ones I know still playing is @Simon Cadete and @The LoneWolf that was members pre-big wipe.  Every one else moved on to other games or for the AUS guys the pings so bad they just gave up.

 

Either way after release I still don't know where I'm going.  Sir Texas Sir and Lil Texas has only remained in US cause I never bought the forge papers (was way to keep my promise to not jump ship until release).  

Maybe I'll check out Swede or Dutch, since I have never made a char in either of those nations?  

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1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

And even though guys aren't original BLACK members, they joined after the wipe.   Pretty much only ones I know still playing is @Simon Cadete and @The LoneWolf that was members pre-big wipe.  Every one else moved on to other games or for the AUS guys the pings so bad they just gave up.ns?  

Simon is in VCO.  Also most of BLACK quit when you started running the show on global.  I remember a few melt downs on TS.  

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