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2 hours ago, John Hill Regard said:

when shark's player's are sailing best one....

Naval action is not a AAA game. It's an SSS game. You Sail, Struggle and Sink. 
It does not matter which server you re playing - you are a hardcore player. Which makes everyone Sharks, which makes you a shark, or maybe a killer whale if you like black and white ships.

You can do it and get those ships, its not hard.

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3 hours ago, John Hill Regard said:

We have player's leaving the PVP server for the PVE server ....Why ??

Because of the high quality puns/conversations we have on PvE Global chat

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12 minutes ago, admin said:

You can do it and get those ships, its not hard.

You made a big step in the right direction with CMs for each kill.  Permits are more accessible.  Rare woods are the next thing to tweak.  I think you can make it possible for solos/casuals to get them.

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12 minutes ago, admin said:

You can do it and get those ships, its not hard.

Permit for a 1st rate costs 10 victory marks. You are right, this is not hard. It is impossible for majority players in one lifetime. 

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1 minute ago, van Veen said:

Permit for a 1st rate costs 10 victory marks. You are right, this is not hard. It is impossible for majority players in one lifetime. 

U can trade and buy VM for reals

U can do PVE and buy VM for Doublons
U can do Pvp\gank and buy VM for Combat Madals

U can do RVR and u dont need buy VM

 

Yea, this is impossible

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22 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

Just got 6 combat medals for killing two players....this feels right.

 No, you killed the same player twice, you wiped his traders fleet. He was talking with us in nation chat. Seems the "Recently Killed" mechanic is not working anymore, this feels wrong.

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Just now, Cabral said:

 No, you killed the same player twice, you wiped his traders fleet. He was talking with us in nation chat. Seems the "Recently Killed" mechanic is not working anymore, this feels wrong.

Yes it was the same player, but that is how it is set up now.  They took away the recently killed mechanic.  (its there for a couple of minutes). My point is that ech kill now rewards CMs and that is good.

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2 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

Yes it was the same player, but that is how it is set up now.  They took away the recently killed mechanic.  (its there for a couple of minutes). My point is that ech kill now rewards CMs and that is good.

And his point is you are a dick.

Being allowed to do something stupid does not mean you have to.

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5 minutes ago, Captain Reverse said:
9 minutes ago, van Veen said:

Permit for a 1st rate costs 10 victory marks. You are right, this is not hard. It is impossible for majority players in one lifetime

U can trade and buy VM for reals

U can do PVE and buy VM for Doublons
U can do Pvp\gank and buy VM for Combat Madals

U can do RVR and u dont need buy VM

 

Yea, this is impossible

No offense, but you are not quite representative of majority of players... average dudes like me with average 2 hours per day at max 3 days a week and maybe half a day once in a blue moon :D 

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1 minute ago, RKY said:

And his point is you are a dick.

Being allowed to do something stupid does not mean you have to.

lol.  Nice.  Some greedy trader runs three traders without an escort and I'm getting insulted?  

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Just now, van Veen said:

 

 

No offense, but you are not quite representative of majority of players... average dudes like me with average 2 hours per day at max 3 days a week and maybe half a day once in a blue moon :D 

 

if I spoke about myself, I would write that this is the easiest game with the easiest economy. but I try to speak on behalf of the majority

2 hours per day at max 3 days a week - this is enough

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3 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

lol.  Nice.  Some greedy trader runs three traders without an escort and I'm getting insulted?  

 He had holds full of beans, by that we can see his experience in trade business. I hope you like beans.

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

lol.  Nice.  Some greedy trader runs three traders without an escort and I'm getting insulted?  

you are not being insulted, you are told what you are.

And what you are is defined by your actions. Enjoy the title.

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18 minutes ago, Captain Reverse said:

U can trade and buy VM for reals

U can do PVE and buy VM for Doublons
U can do Pvp\gank and buy VM for Combat Madals

U can do RVR and u dont need buy VM

 

Yea, this is impossible

You live in NA, my friend. For you, nothing is impossible.

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4 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

You live in NA, my friend. For you, nothing is impossible.

 

This does not negate what I wrote above.

and about live in NA, i play 4 hours+- every day, except Sunday. for some reason I am sure that most of those present here devote the same amount of time to computer \ games.

so stop cry, If the game is very difficult for you, I think you should think about Sims 3

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 We are safe at Sundays. Good to know 😜

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2 hours ago, Captain Reverse said:

 

This does not negate what I wrote above.

and about live in NA, i play 4 hours+- every day, except Sunday. for some reason I am sure that most of those present here devote the same amount of time to computer \ games.

That is above, way above, the average playtime.

Neither you or myself represent the majority of the world. Despite that, I try hard to achieve a game for the many.

 

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19 minutes ago, RKY said:

you are not being insulted, you are told what you are.

And what you are is defined by your actions. Enjoy the title.

Red is dead.  Stop being such a ninny. 

Plus, I'm sure the trader made probably 50 successful runs compared to the two he was caught in....  

There's a reason privateers have existed in real life for hundreds of years.

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38 minutes ago, RKY said:

And his point is you are a dick.

Being allowed to do something stupid does not mean you have to.

Wow, hold your Horses, its legit to attack a Trader on a PvP Server. Even Twice in a row.. wtf.. this isnt PvE.

i mean, i against Sealclubbing and Captialzone camping and all taht. But taking two Traderships from a Player is very legit. i mean, he coud have used an Escort. Espacially the second time.

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23 minutes ago, Captain Reverse said:

 

This does not negate what I wrote above.

and about live in NA, i play 4 hours+- every day, except Sunday. for some reason I am sure that most of those present here devote the same amount of time to computer \ games.

so stop cry, If the game is very difficult for you, I think you should think about Sims 3

Speak for yourself. Iam a 2h Man

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52 minutes ago, van Veen said:

Permit for a 1st rate costs 10 victory marks. You are right, this is not hard. It is impossible for majority players in one lifetime. 

cant you buy Victory Marks anymore?

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11 minutes ago, Captain Reverse said:

This does not negate what I wrote above.

and about live in NA, i play 4 hours+- every day, except Sunday. for some reason I am sure that most of those present here devote the same amount of time to computer \ games.

so stop cry, If the game is very difficult for you, I think you should think about Sims 3

It's not about "difficult", it is time demanding.  

Permits raised the barrier to access a lot of ships. This barrier is not difficult to tackle, but requires a lot of time in multiple activities. Most players, not including @Captain Reverse;), do not have this time. Guess what will be the consequences. You see, if this game remains as time demanding as it is right now, you will rather sooner than later end up without anyone to fight.

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46 minutes ago, Captain Reverse said:

 

This does not negate what I wrote above.

and about live in NA, i play 4 hours+- every day, except Sunday. for some reason I am sure that most of those present here devote the same amount of time to computer \ games.

so stop cry, If the game is very difficult for you, I think you should think about Sims 3

Somewhat harsh.  I respect your talent Reverse but the game is designed for players like you.  However, one might ask as to the dwindling numbers?  The fighting game vs the crafting/trading game and the latter has suffered with the attempts to forage you PVP opponents.  I have 1964 hours in this game and play it quit differently.  However, I do see that the trend to make the game more to the PVP players ease of playing than the depth needed for a decent trading/crafting game with risk of being sunk by a skilled naval tactician as yourself.  

Currently, I am spending my time since the wipe to rebuild my feeling of security on the trading side.  Enough Reals, Doubloons to sustain any shipbuild that I consistently lose to you and those at your skill levels.  Even with DLC ships i must sustain the loss of cannon and upgrades. So since the wipe I have had little PVP time to play.

The Player concentrators like Capitals and only best price in them has proven ineffective to your game play type and produced a harmful environment for new players being attacked even before they can start.  The game was apparently seeming to work before the last wipe that put combat medal in the game in an attempt to push more PVP opponents for you in the Patrol Zones.  This removed my ability to build a storage of Doubloons to buy upgrades so that I could dare to risk combat with those of your skill level with an albeit false sense of security in an upgraded vessel to even the playability of the game.

 With all the special woods and invitations to Port Battles now held by the Royal Grants to the Nobility Clans i would say that roughly 45 percent of the gameplay has now been removed from players like myself.  What we peasant players have left is the ability to spend our game hours trading for Reals for reduced profits and resources to possibly craft inferior ships for your sinking pleasure.  

Now I ask if what you want in this game is an overwhelming advantage in ship structure and build against any opponent then the game is headed that direction.  Unfortunately, I believe that type of game even with the hype of a release launch will not change the numbers that you find in game.  

Naval Combat is about denial of sea commerce but this game has moved to a fictitious small room instance fighting game.  Ok, it is because of frame rates and detail needed in the combat scenarios.  It is not about how hard it is to play but it is about how hard it is to succeed even enough to a middle class player level.  It is about how rich the game is beyond the battle instances in which you excel.

Sim3 achieved this balance between hard and hours to play.  It is apparently very popular, though I never played it. It has many more players than this game.   Numbers would enrich your gameplay too here.

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15 minutes ago, van Veen said:

It's not about "difficult", it is time demanding

To save time, capture ports only from Friday to Sunday. :D

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Posted (edited)

I think the whole game is going in the right direction now. Economie war (rare woods) for clans and nations and people that like RvR with more micro management for clans that own towns. PvP medals that make it possible to live better from PvP again by selling them. Keeping the ship diversity high by making the best ships rare with the intelligent use of permits. I like that. 

It is considered to remove the reinforcement zones (maybe by keeping the capital zones). That is also a very good move but I would recommend to combine it with the remove of the patrol zones (patrol zones would not be necessary any more) and give players only the duel zone/area. So all mechanics that hurt OW PvP and RvR would be removed.

I am looking forward to the release.

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