dafftan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) It's simple. Wasa it's actually slower than a Bellona, that makes no sense. At least it should have the same speed as a Bellona. Edited February 9, 2019 by dafftan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 why "Wasa needs to be faster" and not "Bellona needs to be slower" ? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafftan Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) Edited February 9, 2019 by dafftan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafftan Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Hethwill said: why "Wasa needs to be faster" and not "Bellona needs to be slower" ? Maybe you're right. I had not thought about it. In any case, it makes no sense for the Wasa to be slower than the Bellona. thinking a little more, I think you're right. Edited February 9, 2019 by dafftan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OjK Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Considering how light Wasa is, there should be some real difference between 3rd Rate/Bellona and Wasa 2 hours ago, Hethwill said: why "Wasa needs to be faster" and not "Bellona needs to be slower" ? Because Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HachiRoku Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 5 hours ago, dafftan said: Maybe you're right. I had not thought about it. In any case, it makes no sense for the Wasa to be slower than the Bellona. thinking a little more, I think you're right. wow, you were convinced easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, HachiRoku said: wow, you were convinced easily. He must be new. Edited February 9, 2019 by Velhelm Von Marrius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, OjK said: Considering how light Wasa is, there should be some real difference between 3rd Rate/Bellona and Wasa Because Christian? Wind + canvas make ships move at speed. Hence ships speeds. Maybe all big boys move too fast. Simple equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einarr Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 A light ship does not make a fast ship. Perhaps a larger more heavier ship carrying nothing would sit higher in the water thus having less drag in the water. Or a lighter ship were carrying heavy cargo/guns and sit far lower in the water. If you can calculate the drag of the Wasa in the water given it's ratio of gun and store weight vs it's speed without it then you may have an argument assuming you add in to the equation the drag between different ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafftan Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Velhelm Von Marrius said: He must be new. i'm not an expert, but I played for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Farseer Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Hethwill said: Wind + canvas make ships move at speed. Hence ships speeds. Maybe all big boys move too fast. Simple equation. Sorry mate but that statement is just wrong. If only wind and sails determined the speed of a sailing vessel than ships going before 24 knot winds would be sailing at 24 knots. However they don't. The top speed of any object moving along the surface of a liquid is determined by the turbulence it creates in said liquid because of it's drag. In case of a ship that is the combination of it's bow wave and it's wake. Above a certain threshold (the maximum hull speed), if you put more energy into the ships sails (e.g. stronger wind) it results in the bow wave becoming higher instead of faster. So the ship will keep it's original speed but will heave much more. So whether the Wasa would be quicker than the Bellona depends on it's underwater lines much more than on the sail plan. Don't get me wrong i share your opinion that SoLs should be slower. In terms of balance and giving every ship it's niche I think making the Wasa faster in realtion to the Bellona is the way to go. Also yes: Hold size of the Wasa is atrocious Edited February 10, 2019 by Tom Farseer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafftan Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 19 hours ago, OjK said: Considering how light Wasa is, there should be some real difference between 3rd Rate/Bellona and Wasa Because Christian? I think the christian is very fast too. But that's normal. The christian is a new ship, and devs are used to putting new ships overpower. then they usually change it. It's what happens with all new ships usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 You misunderstand me. Hull size, length, shape and balance of stuff stuck inside it do affect Looking at the game itself there's several things that aren't in, like shifting gravity point, stern heavy, bow heavy, and so on. A lot of stuff. But is a game and All ships are too fast, even schooners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafftan Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) I agree with respecting the physical properties of the ship. However, I think it's just as important to see the playability and the utility that each ship can give to the game. Sorry for not giving enough arguments, and speaking little. I'm not English speaking, so it's really hard for me to express myself. Everything I write is basically extracted from google traslator. Edited February 10, 2019 by dafftan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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