French Ships of the line - Ideas

[Rafael]

Hi Guys,

 

Had to post this French 74 as it has great potential as the main 3rd rate (vanilla) with different variants made of it and so many built.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9m%C3%A9raire-class_ship_of_the_line

 

There is a great list of French SOL's at the bottom on this link obviously finding the plans is the hard part but will start looking.

 

Just a quick idea but i'll look at posting this over in suggestions, i would recommend focusing on building the version of the class of ship you want not a specific ship (yes i realize its just a name) as this will allow you to give the players some freedom with their class of ship in game possibly making some changes as they did historically (Razee, Coppering etc) or like the ship linked above slightly smaller version of the same design.

 

last note as a example - HMS Surprise cool ship lots of story's written around it but i would much prefer to have a ship of her class (Unite Class Corvette) than the actual Surprise as having 20 or 100 Surprises sailing around kinda kills it. (yes i am assuming this is more for fan love the finished game implementation.)

 

Anyway great work guys 

[Alex Connor]

Temeraire is in the current user chosen ship poll 

 

Probably will be built at some stage even if it does not win the poll, essential to have the standard French 74 in game (and most built capital ship ever)

[Mirones]

Duc de Bourgogne 80gun 1752

if plans cant be found simply use the one from HMS Ganges who is based on her.

[Surcouf]

You have to type plan 74-gun ship large model Sané-Borda. The standard plan is adopted in 1782.

 

From 1782 to 1800, 54 ships of 74-gun large model are built according to the standard plan Sané.
The Téméraire is first.

[weirdguy]

It helps to have the engineering blueprints.  Without those diagrams a 3D art guy would be hard pressed to make a ship.

 

French 1st rate Ship of the Line, Ocean class "Montebello" 120 guns.

 

http://www.themodelshipwright.com/high-resolution-ship-plans/sailing-vessels/french-120-gun-ship-of-the-line-montebello/

 

 

[weirdguy]

A bit older ship, the Tre Cronor from the Dutch historical website "Orlogsbasen".

 

 

 

 

[Surcouf]

This is not the first drawing of the Montebello, that of 1812 (from memory) the type Sané is different. it is a refit in 1821, the first Montebello is a bit different and closer to the period of the game.

[Mahlitz]

A bit older ship, the Tre Cronor from the Dutch historical website "Orlogsbasen".

 

 

Not Dutch, Danish Two different countries Dutch = Netherlands/Holland , Danish = Denmark/Danmark

And i believe this is a thread about French Ship of the lines

[Alex Connor]

This is not the first drawing of the Montebello, that of 1812 (from memory) the type Sané is different. it is a refit in 1821, the first Montebello is a bit different and closer to the period of the game.

Here are plans for an earlier sistership, Commerce de Marsielle

[Surcouf]

There is a specific drawing of Montebello, even if it is the same type as the Commerce de Marseille.

I have this in my boats files. I'll watch.

[Surcouf]

The first drawing of Montebello ship date of 1812. It is found in the British Library.

 

It is listed on the drawing:
The Wagram, the Austerlitz, the Imperial were made at Toulon on the same drawing, and the Ville de Vienne in Rochefort.

 

The 1822 drawing shows the vessel after it refit of 12 / 24e in Toulon. I can not put the first drawing, but here are a representation of the Wagram (sistership) before the refit.

 

 

And a representation of Montebello after the redesign.

 

 

The Commerce de Marseille (1788-1793) is prior to Montebello (1812-1867). It is not the same regulation but same type.