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Indeed a waste. Later the government regretted to sink her, but shortly after WW2, nobody was willing to pay upkeep for two ships of the line.

I think the same guy who bought Trincomalee and preserverd her tried the same with Implacable, but failed. Pretty sure @Sir Lancelot Holland has quite abit to tell about this case.

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8 hours ago, Batman said:

Indeed a waste. Later the government regretted to sink her, but shortly after WW2, nobody was willing to pay upkeep for two ships of the line.

I think the same guy who bought Trincomalee and preserverd her tried the same with Implacable, but failed. Pretty sure @Sir Lancelot Holland has quite abit to tell about this case.

To be fair HMS Implacable's general condition was far worse than that of HMS Victory, which even before WWII was the ceremonial office of C-in-C Home Fleet so she was kept looking in good condition. WWII had cost Great Britain a colossal amount of money and that all of the costs of lend/lease had yet to be paid, (which was still being paid off at the turn of the new Millennium) it is not really surprising that HM Govt did not want to spend a great deal of money restoring her. 

There is a huge difference in the costs of restoring a Frigate and a ship of the line, footfall for both Victory and Trincomalee is quite high and the money raised by visitors appears to be sufficient to make them economically viable, as part of the National Museum  of the Royal Navy HMS Trincomalee, HMS Caroline, ( A C-class Light Cruiser and the last survivor from the Battle of Jutland) HMS/m Alliance and HMS Victory are partly sponsored by the Admiralty and partly public subscription in the form of a trust/registered charity (unlike the Clipper Cutty Sark which is a private venture, the tragic fire during her last refit ensures that she will be out of business for some time unless public subscription saves her),   all four ships are either technically commissioned or have Admiralty dispensation to fly the White Ensign.

HMS Belfast is not a part of this group, she is part of the Imperial War Museum, while no longer in commission she has dispensation from the Admiralty to continue flying her White Ensign.  

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RIP Implacable. Seeing things like this hurts my stomach, as with any govt. and historical wartime relics, whether they be ships, aircraft, tanks, monuments, forts, etc, etc. I can understand that the cost of restoration and upkeep might be hefty, but when I think of all the other dumb crap humans just love to spend money on and yet we can't find money to preserve our history. Absurd really. 

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The Cutty Sark is back in business and even has a cafe underneath the copper bottomed hull :) at the time of the fire I think the masts were away being restored 

 

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Dom Fernando e Glória after a fire in the 60's was reduced to a wreck. It is of note that many old models, in all navies of the world, have been used as target practice during the XX century, not sure if this particular frigate served that purpose though. 

In the 1990's she was brought up from the locker and rebuilt for our pleasure.

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During the late 1940's and 50's many ships were disposed of at Bikini Atoll during the Atomic/nuclear bomb test phases,  KMS Prinz  Eugen, veteran of the Denmark Strait,  and, later the Channel dash, was among them, Having survived two atomic bombs she was towed to Kwajalein where she finally capsized, her stern can still be seen above water there.  In 1978 her port Propeller was removed from the wreck site to be placed as a naval memorial at Kiel.

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