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On 12/3/2019 at 6:49 PM, admin said:

6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

No more french flag?

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On 12/3/2019 at 6:49 PM, admin said:

6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

That is so awesome!!! Thank you so much! When can we expect it and which flags will be added?

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me as a pirate would like to see some more choice regarding pirate flags.

Some pirates where using the red flag option . as you can see bellow

The Henry Every had a red flag option : 

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor henry every red flag

Also would like to see the flag of : John Phillips. 

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor john phillips pirate flag

its also possible to add the flag of Hayreddin Barbarossa. 

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor hayreddin barbarossa flag

Also the flag of pirate Laurens de Graaf could be added ;

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Thanks in advance. 

With kind regards

Sparky. 

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@admin maybe add some flags that can be obtainable by finishing ingame objects? finishing exam. Visit every port. Attack and successfully win a deepwater/shallow port battle. Some things like these stuffs would be cool i would assume. :D 

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On 2/3/2020 at 6:17 AM, admin said:

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A very  nice other Historical American flag (branche America)

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Pennsylvania Navy Flag

During the Revolutionary War eleven states created their own navy.

 

(linked historical  with the mother* flag*)

 

 

 

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Next flag: 

Whiskey Rebellion Flag ( flag... rare ?)

The Whiskey Rebellion occurred in the late 1700s. In 1791, the U.S. government instituted an excise tax on whiskey to help pay off the war debt resulting from the Revolutionary War. Frontier farmers strongly opposed the tax and felt it was an attack on them.

 

Most farmers and distilleries rebelled and refused to pay the tax. At that time, the frontier was comprised of Kentucky and parts of Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Pennsylvania and Virginia. Western Pennsylvania rebels took the rebellion further by engaging in intimidation and violence against federal officials that were attempting to collect the tax. Some of the tax collectors were tarred and feathered, and others had their homes burned down.

 

The rebels used a variety of flags to identify the reason for their rebellion. Most were simple, but some had inscriptions of, or similar to, “Equal Taxation and No Excise”.

 

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A flag with the wording “Liberty or Death” is said to have used by Hagerstown, Maryland, militiamen when the Federals arrived to try to draft men to fight against the rebellion. The Federals were not successful in drafting those men to its cause.

 

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One of the flags used was described as having six stripes to represent the six counties in the area that were included in that faction. Another had six stars and six bars, and another as having seven stars and seven bars.

 

At that time in history, it is likely that the homemade flags were created using wool bunting, cotton or linen. Silk was so expensive that it is unlikely that those on the frontier could afford to use it for flags.

 

The federal government sent the army into Pennsylvania and other states to try to squash the rebellion. While many were arrested, the government was not successful in collecting the taxes. Congress repealed the whiskey tax in 1802

 

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Whiskey rebellion 

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Introducing the mother * ?  of the flags ( branche dutch )

and where do they all come from :

 example: the pennants: you see here  many examples and much more ( many places not even given here like : [ vianen,  luxembourg . ecc ] )

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180px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_  stripes and bars (teasing something different >>> yankee flag read article .)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#First_flag:_the_"Stars_and_Bars"_(1861–1863)

just a note yankee is also known as: Names >>  jan and kees  ( typical Dutch names )      i would say >> start thinking :) { yankee doodle}

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the legend goes >>

Flag of Leuven: After a battle between the "Vikings" and Arnulf of Carinthia had been won by Arnulf, the riverbanks of local river the Dyle were stained red with blood, while the river remained clear.  Flag of Austria: According to legend, the flag was invented by Duke Leopold V of Austria as a consequence of his fighting during the Siege of Acre. After a fierce battle, his white surcoat was completely drenched in blood. When he removed his belt, the cloth beneath remained unstained, revealing the combination of red-white-red. So taken was he by this singular sight that he adopted the colours and scheme as his banner.

Dordrecht, Gouda and Hoorn do not have a fancy origin story, at least according to wikipedia.      (* wrong every flag has his history )

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therefore

/ introducing:  the merchant flag of ( Holland)   [one of the most important leading provinces of the vp in the NORTH at that time period (18 century) ) seen on many painting but also seem to be forgotten over time.

i believe>> also.... this flag has a link with the early American settlers in the  17/18 century where colonist (many dutch settlers went to  new amsterdam {new Holland}, current New York) came from europe ( among others from different countries) to settle in america and later on the british empire take control of the colonies.

also those colonist used their own flag as a flag they know and are use to,also  in a new territory (read colonist land)  as the only flag they know for a long time 

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let's continue with the mother *  of all flags.

also been seen on many painting from   Hendrick Cornelis Vroom.  ( https://www.wikiart.org/en/hendrick-cornelisz-vroom)

Hendrick Cornelisz Vroom (c.1562 – February 4, 1640 (buried)) was a Dutch Golden Age painter credited with being the founder of Dutch marine art or seascape painting. Beginning with the "birds-eye" viewpoint of earlier Netherlandish marine art, his later works show a view from lower down, and more realistic depiction of the seas themselves. He is not to be confused with his son and pupil Cornelis Vroom.

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the painting itself .(arrival of early orange nassau family ??  to the netherlands  vp ?? ) 

also we see the flag of the province of sealand (prov ZEELAND) And Holland  (prov NOORD-HOLLAND) (and National flag)

depicting :

VROOM_Hendrick_Cornelisz The Arrival at Vlissingen  (prov ZEELAND / sealand ) of the Elector Palatinate Frederick.

  (( coming with?!  british ships ?   wft transport ??))

Frederick V (German: Friedrich V.; 26 August 1596 – 29 November 1632)[1][2] was the Elector Palatine of the Rhine in the Holy Roman Empire from 1610 to 1623, and reigned as King of Bohemia from 1619 to 1620. He was forced to abdicate both roles, and the brevity of his reign in Bohemia earned him the derisive sobriquet "the Winter King" (Czech: Zimní král; German: Winterkönig).

Frederick was born at the Jagdschloss Deinschwang (a hunting lodge) near Amberg in the Upper Palatinate. He was the son of Frederick IV and of Louise Juliana of Orange-Nassau, the daughter of William the Silent and Charlotte de Bourbon-Montpensier. An intellectual, a mystic, and a Calvinist, he succeeded his father as Prince-Elector of the Rhenish Palatinate in 1610. He was responsible for the construction of the famous Hortus Palatinus gardens in Heidelberg.

----------------------------------------------------------------(  also there is  a link with the other painting from vroom introducing a other royal hair to the netherlands / v p  in a earlier post ) probably, and it seems he was a painter from the nobility.

 

more important is the 2 ship on the right of the painting: one upper right is the flag of zeeland (called  province south of holland  , and the lower ship  is a flag from Holland (called province -  North  Holland  ( NOORD-HOLLAND) )

more painting from ships from the  prov. north holland  (Noord Holland)

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Face on Hoorn (important trading city in North  holland )

you can see here the pennants of hoorn but also the big flag (7 lanes red and 6 white) on the stern .(and other vessel on top of the mast )

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flag proposal:^^: 

V P Merchant  Holland. [ Old ]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bowles's_naval_flags_of_the_world,_1783.jpg

 

 

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Dutch rare 18 century flag 

flag of one of the major trade city s from the northern part of the united provinces Hoorn  /  ENKHUIZEN province North Holland (Noord Holland)

 

Enkhuizer flag (VERY rare : not VOC  [spanish] remnant flag) 

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source: dutch atlas made bij Delisle in 1739

Proposal :^^

V P Holland Enkhuizen [ Old]

 

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nl-nh_e2.gif pennant 1500- 1708 

Enkhuizen pennants^^   (example)                                                                                       ..^^

 

 

Melted provinces flag south and north ??  (very interesting  ) (green are still colors of Rotterdam and Red from amsterdam)

nl-vocen.gif Flag:     V O C   Enkhuizen (already proposed)

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now it is getting important and interesting .

After a long investigation what was going on on the painting from Adriaen Pietersz. van de Venne, 1615 where i could not directly recognise the flags and where the flag seemed to have a color distortion (but later  the painting was authentic)

i also discovered that the colors of the flag where correct and authentic (van de venne was spot on)

i discovered a old restaurated painting of a unknown painter .(already show in another post)

 

Painter :Unknown North Netherland, Fleet review at the Enkhuizen roadstead, oil on panel, 94.0 x 146.5 cm (hxw), not signed, 1614, Municipality of Enkhuizen.

https://www.ronalddejager.nl/vlootschouw-enkhuizen/?_gallery=gg-27-681

on this painting many more very very interesting historical footage can be found what needs closer investigation. (like for instance the maltese cross on a red an white flag )

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On 29 July 1614, Enkhuizen was visited by Prince Maurits, governor of the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands, together with his brother Frederik Hendrik. The flag of the stadholder waving on the mast of the ship in the foreground. Salute shots are fired in honor of this high visit. Enkhuizen was an Orange-minded city: the first city in West-Friesland and the Noorderkwartier in 1572, during the Eighty Years' War, chose the side of Willem van Oranje against the Spaniards.

 

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painting before restauration

 

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After restoration                     (i call it the treasure painting because of the new beautiful flags on it, with also new not known to the public   flags on it )

 

This is a almost identical scene from what we have seen before on  the painting from van de venne at vlissingen.

the upper painting is from a year earlier 1614 

and in this painting we can now clearly see the flag and the origin of the ship a year later. at 1615

 

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Enkhuizen Coat of Arms

 image from the Enkhuizen municipal website.220px-Coat_of_arms_of_Enkhuizen.svg.png

but for a moment back to the painting from van de venne

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this painting is a year younger  than the discovered painting

 painting of The Departure of a Dignitary from Middelburg, Adriaen Pietersz. van de Venne, 1615

we can see in the top mast  on  the the ship in the middle the pennant of the city enkhuizen but also in the middle of the flag the (" horn" a musical yachting  instrument) of Hoorn the city (it is a combined flag) .

seems a nobility flag where the admiralty is combined:  3 month of the year the admiralty have his headquarters in city enkhuizen and the rest of the year at city Hoorn..

combined flag of the admiralty noorderkwartier Holland 

 

also  pennant Flag from city Enkhuizen

Enkhuizen 1708 Shipmate Flagchart : http://www.flagchart.net

Hesman's Vlaggenboek (1708) has a tricolor red - yellow - red.
Source: Sierksma's Nederlands Vlaggenboek (1962) - [sie62].
Jarig Bakker, 7 Jun 2003

 

 

so i want to introduce and also propose: 

flag rating   important ( regular.)

Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier:  
The Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier also called Admiraliteit of West-Friesland and the Noorderkwartier was the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier, ie Holland north of the IJ.

It was founded on March 6, 1589 by resolution of the States General, by decision of Stadholder Maurits van Nassau, later Prince of Orange. Admiralty was established in Hoorn and from 1597 every three months also in Enkhuizen. Admiralty was abolished in 1795.

a flag 5 lanes dark bleu  /and 5 lanes white  as shown on the painting

as a important flag flown  from the beginning , the birth of the 7 provinces.

flag called:    VP Enkhuizen Holland Navy (regular)

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proposal ^^     VP Enkhuizen Holland Navy -  Admiralty  Noorderkwartier

 

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also propose:   Nobility flag Holland Navy-  Admiralty Noorderkwartier Hoorn-Enkhuizen 

^^ is also the missing flag from the painting from Adriaen Pietersz. van de Venne, 1615

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The flag of the islands in the north of the netherlands .   Waddeneilanden

 

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Terschelling_en_Vlieland_vlag_-_Bowles's

^^ Naval flag :   Terschelling en Vlieland 1783

historical image of the flag of Vlieland and Terschelling (islands) 

Historische afbeelding van de vlag van Vlieland en Terschelling (1783)

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Island Ameland

260px-Flag_of_Ameland.svg.png

^^ naval flag : Ameland

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bowles's_naval_flags_of_the_world,_1783.jpg

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Flag: island Texel  (island)

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Texel_-_Bowles's_naval_flags_of_the_worl

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^^ flag Vlieland (island)

ref https://dewaddeneilanden.wordpress.com/vlaggen-van-de-waddeneilanden/

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French Flag: Les Corsaires de Saint Malo

The flag of Saint-Malo is blue, red white. Corsairs were flying red colors as attack flags. During the reign of Louis XIV, flags of war ports were all united background colored with a silver cross (white), the backgound being specific to each port (azure for Saint-Malo). Finally, a passing ermine tied with gold (colors specific to the weapons of the city), recalling the belonging of Saint-Malo to the Duchy of Brittany.

This flag was flown by the corsairs of Saint-Malo (René Duguay-Trouin, Robert Surcouf), in addition to the Royal Flag (which was normally flown by war ships of “La Royale” only).

Corsairs of Saint-Malo got a special authorisation to fly the Royal Flag, in spite of not belonging to La Royale, and their own flag below. In fact, the Flag of Saint-Malo was often flown above the Royal Flag, which can still be seen now a days in some city buildings… 

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Ni-breton-ni-fran%C3%A7ais-malouin-suis.

Source:

https://saintmalosecret.fr/blog/histoire/ni-francais-ni-breton-malouin-suis/

 

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@admin, I noticed something the other day.  On the GB flag list, you have two identical flags.  One is the 1707 (date may be wrong) naval ensign and the other is the British national Flag.  Both look like this:

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The national flag Should look like this:

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7 hours ago, Angus MacDuff said:

@admin, I noticed something the other day.  On the GB flag list, you have two identical flags.  One is the 1707 (date may be wrong) naval ensign and the other is the British national Flag.  Both look like this:

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Look again please. They are not identical. 1413395589_GreatBritain.png.7058da6ead5dcd40c80aa665b25ae1df.png1221606874_WhiteEnsign1707.png.a7cbfe4daa31c67d56e21ab26ebe4d31.png

The 2nd one is from before the addition of the St Patrick Saltire cross representing Ireland. 

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2 minutes ago, Anolytic said:

Look again please. They are not identical. 

Fair enough (good catch!).  Still, neither is the GB National flag, which should be available.

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On 3/6/2020 at 4:23 PM, Angus MacDuff said:

Fair enough (good catch!).  Still, neither is the GB National flag, which should be available.

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    The Saint George's Cross.(first union flag 1200-1801) In the Union Flag this represents the entire Kingdom of England, including Wales.

    Dutch painting: The arrival in Vlissingen of the wedding couple Prince Frederick V of the Palatinate and the English princess Elizabeth Stuart from England. The English ships are received by Prince Maurits and Frederik Hendrik among others (their ship is in the middle in the front). After their reception, the bridal couple would travel to Heidelberg to settle there. English: The Arrival at Flushing of the Elector Palatinate Frederick V. circa 1632 .: painter: VROOM Hendrick Cornelisz: The Arrival at Flushing of the Elector Palatinate Frederick V.

    1632

    Nederlands: De aankomst in Vlissingen van het bruidspaar prins Frederik V van de Palts en de Engelse prinses Elizabeth Stuart vanuit Engeland. De Engelse schepen worden ontvangen door onder andere prins Maurits en Frederik Hendrik (midden vooraan ligt hun schip). Na hun ontvangst zou het bruidspaar doorreizen naar Heidelberg om zich daar te vestigen. English: The Arrival at Vlissingen of the Elector Palatinate Frederick V circa 1632.  VROOM Hendrick Cornelisz The Arrival at Vlissingen of the Elector Palatinate Frederick V

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  • ^^ fragment of the battle of the saints  1782
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flag followed by other similar flags 

@admin propose : ( first union flag (not in game yet)) as:              St George Cross  1218 -1801 

Branche : Britisch 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Jack#/media/File:Development_of_The_Union_Jack.gif  <<seen here in development true time the basis starts here  (wait 5 seconds to load)

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 St George Cross

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On 12/3/2019 at 6:49 PM, admin said:

6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

Any news on this? I am really excited about what flags got picked especially the prussian ones 😅

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china flag

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beiyang navy flag early

1. Beiyang Navy flag          2.Beiyang Navy Vice Admiral flag       3.Beiyang Navy General flag

beiyang navy flag 1890

1. Beiyang Navy flag          2.Beiyang Navy vice-Admiral flag        3.Beiyang Navy torpedo fleet captain flag

3.Beiyang Navy minister flag   4.Beiyang Navy captain flag         6.Beiyang Navy duty officer

7.TIAN SHANG SHENG MU flag  8.Beiyang Navy Trade ships flag

 

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After the rebuilding of the beiyang navy

1.Beiyang Navy minister flag        2 3 4 5 6Ship top commander rank flag

 

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On 12/3/2019 at 6:49 PM, admin said:

6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

Any update on this ?

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