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52 minutes ago, Thonys said:

Dutch admiralty flag

Dutch had actually 5 Admiralties, so which one is needed?

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2 minutes ago, Malcolm3 said:

Dutch had actually 5 Admiralties, so which one is needed?

lets just start with all of them

1. first: states general first the yellow flag with the red lion and 7 arrows . (the old one)

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31 minutes ago, Thonys said:

lets just start with all of them

Your post here almost a year ago

 

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27 minutes ago, Malcolm3 said:

Your post here almost a year ago

 

#A year ago🧐

thanks for the REMINDER.(already forgot i made a post about it )

now it is up to the NA flag painter guy :)

 

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On 3/5/2019 at 1:27 PM, Thonys said:

 

On the famous painting by Adriaen Pieterszn. van de Venne, View of the harbor of Middelburg from 1615 (Rijksmuseum)

 

Venne_SK-A-1775-300x143.jpg

 

 

What are the main ensigns on the 2 boats in front?

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16 hours ago, admin said:

What are the main ensigns on the 2 boats in front?

the painting: 

hDeparture of a Dignitary from Middelburg, Adriaen Pietersz. van de Venne, 1615

The warship De Zeehondt is being towed to sea from the harbour of Middelburg by four muscular draught horses. The identity of the departing person who is drawing so much attention from a multitude of lowand high-ranking people is unknown. However, it must have been someone of standing, for even Stadtholder Maurice’s yacht is present; it fires a salute.

https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio/artists/adriaen-pietersz-van-de-venne/objects#/SK-A-1775,4

 

 

the painting itself is a painting with the city of middelburg in theback (red flag with tower)    https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlag_van_Middelburg

zeeuwse-vlag-luctor-et-emergo.jpg?w=300&  province flag Zeeland (  Lions face towards the flagpole)

   260px-Middelburg_vlag.svg.png city of Middelburg

A previous flag had three horizontal stripes in yellow, white and red. This flag was named in 1739 and 1783 as the flag of Middelburg.

In the seventeenth century, according to some sources, a green-white-blue and an even green flag were also in use.

120px-Middelburg_historische_vlag_18e_ee

Note: the yellow-white-red flag appears to have different colors, but Bowles has shaded the flag correctly according to heraldic usage. (heraldic colors)

https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand:Middelburg_historische_vlag_18e_eeuw.svg

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlag_van_Middelburg

 

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painting it is the lead out with four horses of the  ship "zeehond " [animal seal ] under the flag of city  middelburg province ZEELAND

 

the front left ship is the yacht of the Prince of Orange   

from the looks of it it must be the "Orange blanche blue"(old dutch flag  orange white and blue) flag and the royal coat of arms on it 

it is the original Prinsen flag 

260px-Prinsenvlag.svg.pngThe colors are in French orange-blanc-bleu. This was 'translated' in Dutch as orange blanc bleu.

 by the looks of it ......it has the coat of arms of the Prince on it ......  painters painted a recognition of the person in the painting

 

 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_Maurice,_Prince_of_Orange,_KG.png

600px-Coat_of_arms_Maurice,_Prince_of_Or

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Prinsenvlag met het wapen van Prins Maurits  (the coat of arms of Maurice,_Prince_of_Orange)

we also see the ( double)  prince flag       red- white- blue- red-white - blue

nl-pr2a.gif

 

the white flag seems to be some kind of royal flag >>> the french  Fleurs-de-Lis 

the flag on the stern looks like   Fleurs-de-Lis (french)

 perhaps there where some french guest on board or the prince he came from france harbor with a french captain  (???)

it is not a dutch flag.53296-full.jpg

 

{careful* colorization of the painting }

the red yellow red is probably just the middelburg flag*  (yellow -white -red)>  disputable*

but the flag can be Dordrecht or Gouda cities in the vicinity  

260px-Flag_of_Dordrecht.svg.png Dordrecht  (zeeland)

 

also red yellow red is spain in those days (remnants   ???  ) no other red yellow red in that area found yet....*

also Hoorn a city in the northern part of holland North holland (province) use this kind of colors seen in  picture below 

 

 

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flag of Zeeland (province)

flag of middelburg (city)

Geus of Vlissingen (city)

Geus of Middelburg (city)

Geus van Veere (city)

 

 

green white green white  green white green .green white green seems to be Rotterdam ???

.  no blue white is found yet  in the vicinity of zeeland. (or it is a flag of high ranked coat of arms people flag) 

the closest i can make of it is : flag of the city of  Rotterdam

rotterd3.gif

Rotterdam_flag_-_Bowles's_naval_flags_of

 

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VOC Zeeland Chamber (in Middelburg)

[VOC Zeeland Chamber (in Middelburg)] by Mark Sensen, 19 November 1996

Other versions of the cypher showed a "Z" (for "Zeeland") above, some also with a "M" below:
[VOC Zeeland Chamber, other versions of the cypher]

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6 flags 

https://fotw.info/flags/nl-indco.html

representing the 6 admiralty chambers of the voc merchants 

 

Image by Mark Sensen
  
Image by Mark Sensen
Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, Amsterdam
 
  
Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, Delft
 
Image by Mark Sensen
  
Image by Mark Sensen
Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, Enkhuizen
 
  
Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, Hoorn
 
Image by Mark Sensen
  
Image by Mark Sensen
Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, Middelburg
 
  
Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, Rotterdam

 

VOC Rotterdam Chamber - Administrator

[VOC Rotterdam Chamber - Administrator?] by Mark Sensen, 30 July 1998

A painting by Ludolf Backhuysen with a view of the Rotterdam harbour shows a yacht with a white flag with the Rotterdam cypher and red-white-blue stripes at the top and bottom. According to Jos Poels (in [vxn] Vexilla Nostra no. 214) white flags with tricolour stripes at the top and bottom were used by administrators of the Navy Admiralities in earlier centuries. Maybe this was a flag of an administrator of the VOC Rotterdam Chamber?

https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/mijn/verzamelingen/2657354--anouk-vdh/sea-ship-ahoy/objecten#/SK-A-11,0

in this painting the painter put his signature in the Administrators flag (Backhuysen) 

 

the-warship-brielle-on-the-maas-for-rott

The Warship Brielle on the Maas for Rotterdam by Ludolf Bakhuizen, 1689.

also the red flag of the war ship meaning no quarters

  also seen the yellow flag with the admiralty red lion in it (Staten Vlag) [states flag]

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no letters in the administrators flag 

Ludolf+Bakhuizen+A+States+Yacht+On+The+I

dutch flag with the coat of arms of the city of Amsterdam

also in top the States flag [staten vlag] (english : general Admiralty flag)( in dutch : Generaliteits vlag)

there are two types the old version (before +/_ 1650? ) and an new version 

 

Generaliteits vlag  (new version with sword and 7 arrows) after year: 1650?)eevhud1avlb8.jpg

 

the old version (no sword no arrow) of the Generalities Vlag

ohmcw8eek0rgj.jpg

 

yijjt0fmeuy.png

also visible as a Geus in front of the ship in the movie (old/new? model) :fragment > the admiral trailer @admin

https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken/objecten?q=zee+schilder&p=2&ps=12&st=Objects&ii=6#/SK-C-1707,18

https://pixels.com/featured/willem-van-de-velde-ii-leiden-1633-london-1707--the-dutch-fleet-in-the-goeree-roads-ca-1672-willem-van-de-velde-the-younger-1633-1707.html   (right ship flag on every mast)

Schepen_onder_de_kust_voor_anker_(Willem

 

(EDIT: no krown on the lions head.removed)

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15 minutes ago, Thonys said:

6 flags representing the 6 chambers of the merchants

would you mind posting the flags of their living room ? 🙂

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6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

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12 minutes ago, admin said:

5 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags.

 

Truly awesome...thank-you!

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Now I am ultra hyped which flags got picked. Thank you guys so much for adding them. :)

 

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On 12/3/2019 at 6:49 PM, admin said:

6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

No more french flag?

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On 12/3/2019 at 6:49 PM, admin said:

6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

That is so awesome!!! Thank you so much! When can we expect it and which flags will be added?

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On 12/3/2019 at 6:49 PM, admin said:

6 collections will be added to game. We do not know yet in what form (reward for complex missions or admiralty store).
All new flags will come in collections containing names of active pro-active fans who never stopped to push for flags they want


Thonys Collection - containing rare Dutch Flags
Stiermarken Collection - rare Dutch Flags
Angus Collection - Scottish flag (s)?
Anolytic Collection - Rare Russian flags
Z4YS Collection - Rare Prussian and other german flags
Interpido Collection - Rare Spanish Flags

 

Just a typo, it is Intrepido.

It is nice the gesture you had.

 

Please add the following flag, it is the flag used by our privateer under Charles III (1785).

banderacorsaria.jpg

 

Source: https://www.todoababor.es/vida_barcos/elnavio.htm

 

Painting

corsarios-del-plata.jpg

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@admin  

me as a pirate would like to see some more choice regarding pirate flags.

Some pirates where using the red flag option . as you can see bellow

The Henry Every had a red flag option : 

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor henry every red flag

Also would like to see the flag of : John Phillips. 

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor john phillips pirate flag

its also possible to add the flag of Hayreddin Barbarossa. 

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor hayreddin barbarossa flag

Also the flag of pirate Laurens de Graaf could be added ;

image.png.45e7d6da129e3988377a58f9450625bd.png

 

Thanks in advance. 

With kind regards

Sparky. 

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