Gear sticky?

[Cmdr RideZ]

Am I blind or no sticky thread for gear feedback? Modules, Books, Perks, Wood Types, Cannons, etc. ?

 

Wanted to post to that thread:

There is going to be an upgrade patch, hopefully more like overhaul, as things are that bad.

Wood Types are broken. With a rare upgrade or 2 you can swap Wood Types. Something like from Fir to Teak or LO/WO to T/WO ?

Penalties of these lighter and heavier wood types are still there.

Upgrades should have smaller bonuses and or higher penalties, when compared to wood type stats.

Fir vs Teak: Teak with rare speed upgrades should not be I win.

 

The same thing goes with boarding.

Having boarding upgrades vs not having, it should not be I win. It should give you benefits but not I win.

This was like this before insane muskets.

 

You have mast upgrades, especially in case of rare, and enemy does not. Should not be mandatory to have or I win.

 

etc.

Slightly simplified the subject but it does not make it invalid.

 

Also devs should make comparison vs combat mechanisms.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Cmdr RideZ

[Slim McSauce]

Yes I also just learned than a Teak/WO ship can reach speeds that a fir/fir ship reaches with books alone. That's a huge gear advantage, no wonder no one wants their stuff wiped or fights to be more balanced, there's a monopoly on PvP in order to feed the ego's of people with the best gear. That's the secret apparently according to one player

 

[Beeekonda]

You guys need to genuinely GET GOOD

Both of your POVs are so wrong

[Slim McSauce]

10 minutes ago, Beeekonda said:

You guys need to genuinely GET GOOD

Both of your POVs are so wrong

            Is that REALLY all you have to say?

 

do you even have a POV of your own or are you just trolling?

 

Edited November 14, 2018 by Slim McSauce

[Beeekonda]

I do, but I aint gonna school you everything in here.

[Slim McSauce]

Just now, Beeekonda said:

I do, but I aint gonna school you everything in here.

No, please, enlighten us your lordship!

[traitorous mctraitoro]

Gear is nothing. If someone is faster than you just make them come to you.

Your talking about someone using maximum speed mods. Then they have no advantage on anything but speed. It's not hard to counter.

Don't chase faster ships. They will come to you if you play it right. 

If you must chase someone with "amazing gear" then use smaller ships, a class down can easily be much faster with 1/10th the price altogether.

Gear only gives you small advantages in certain areas. It doesn't make you op if you use more expensive gear, just more SPECIALISED.

[Slim McSauce]

3 minutes ago, traitorous mctraitoro said:

Gear is nothing. If someone is faster than you just make them come to you.

Your talking about someone using maximum speed mods. Then they have no advantage on anything but speed. It's not hard to counter.

Don't chase faster ships. They will come to you if you play it right. 

If you must chase someone with "amazing gear" then use smaller ships, a class down can easily be much faster with 1/10th the price altogether.

Gear only gives you small advantages in certain areas. It doesn't make you op if you use more expensive gear, just more SPECIALISED.

So a teak/WO ship with speed mods and books being faster than a fir/fir ship with speed mods, no books isn't an advantage?

You're delusional mate.

[Beeekonda]

2 minutes ago, Slim McSauce said:

So a teak/WO ship with speed mods and books being faster than a fir/fir ship with speed mods, no books isn't an advantage?

You're delusional mate.

If they use same speed mods/books/guns and have equal amount of repairs(weight of stuff in hold) whos gonna be faster?

Idiot prove yourself before you post next time 

[traitorous mctraitoro]

8 minutes ago, Slim McSauce said:

So a teak/WO ship with speed mods and books being faster than a fir/fir ship with speed mods, no books isn't an advantage?

You're delusional mate.

So don't chase it, just pack hp mods, or pen mod, or reload mods, the go for side to side hugging, go for masts, go for sails, make yourself strong enough to fight off 2 ships, make yourself a small ship that they will go for, but is actually stronger than them. It's not hard, just don't be a sheep.

Don't chase a faster stronger ship, if they are hunting they will find you, just make yourself joucy enough for them to chase you.

Also stop using fir fir, its useless in EVERY way

Edited November 14, 2018 by traitorous mctraitoro

[Beeekonda]

3 minutes ago, traitorous mctraitoro said:

Also stop using fir fir, its useless in EVERY way

*Unless you know how to.... I fixed

I use a lot of fir/fir frigs 

Its the same story as with 12pd carronades  

Edited November 14, 2018 by Beeekonda

[Slim McSauce]

2 minutes ago, Beeekonda said:

If they use same speed mods/books/guns and have equal amount of repairs(weight of stuff in hold) whos gonna be faster?

Idiot prove yourself before you post next time 

You lame brained noob. Why would you use fir/fir when you can do teak/wo and achieve the same speed? That's the whole point. The gear advantage literally bridges the gap and makes anything under the best, useless.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Slim McSauce

[traitorous mctraitoro]

1 minute ago, Slim McSauce said:

You lame brained noob. Why would you use fir/fir when you can do teak/wo and achieve the same speed? That's the whole point.

Because you already have the speed with fir fir, now you can add Bridgetown, basic hull, and elephant bow, for a fast super strong ship

[Beeekonda]

• You save few mod slots for other stuff
• You save few knowledge slots for other stuff
• You save Teak Logs
• You save White Oak Logs
• You can always craft another Fir/Fir anytime, its cheap af

[Slim McSauce]

1 minute ago, traitorous mctraitoro said:

Because you already have the speed with fir fir, now you can add Bridgetown, basic hull, and elephant bow, for a fast super strong ship

No you can't lmao. All those have direct negatives to speed and you lack any thickness. Not the same thing at all and if you were being intellectual honest you would've known that.

The faster your ship starts the more speed you lose per each of those mods so you'll never reach 14+ knts like that.

Also it's not all speed, there are tons of mods and books that are super powerful that grant huge advantages.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Slim McSauce

[traitorous mctraitoro]

If your not going to listen and resort to being fascisous, well figure it out yourself then @Slim McSauceMcSauce

I was trying to help. Hope at least the guy who posted this takes in what's been said 

[Slim McSauce]

*facetious

probably doesn't mean what you think it means.

[traitorous mctraitoro]

Brilliant

troll someone less bored

Edited November 14, 2018 by traitorous mctraitoro

[Cmdr RideZ]

1 hour ago, traitorous mctraitoro said:

Gear is nothing. If someone is faster than you just make them come to you.

Your talking about someone using maximum speed mods. Then they have no advantage on anything but speed. It's not hard to counter.

Don't chase faster ships. They will come to you if you play it right. 

If you must chase someone with "amazing gear" then use smaller ships, a class down can easily be much faster with 1/10th the price altogether.

Gear only gives you small advantages in certain areas. It doesn't make you op if you use more expensive gear, just more SPECIALISED.

 

1 hour ago, traitorous mctraitoro said:

If your not going to listen and resort to being fascisous, well figure it out yourself then @Slim McSauceMcSauce

I was trying to help. Hope at least the guy who posted this takes in what's been said 

 

When the current upgrades, gear, came out I think I might have said even day one that it sucks.

Right now the game is gear based. It is actually sad that players don't understand this already.

 

From your first post I can see that at least you know something. Remember also that we now speak only from speed, there are other pieces of gear that are simply stupid as well.

You explain that make faster ship to come to you. Well what if the faster ship is also more combat oriented or like many say "tankier" than your ship?

 

You tell to use smaller and faster ship to catch a bigger ship. If you target knows how to play the game he the advantage once again.

 

Gear can make more specialized ship but it also will most probably make your ship better in almost every possible way. If you don't have the good gear you pretty much have to specialize, you don't have any other option. Then you have to force well geared player to play like you want or hope he takes the lure.

You also have to remember that the player without gear has to do all the tricks to win well geared player. Does not sound like at all to you that gear matters? What if the player you face is equally good and understands your "tricks"? You have pretty much zero change to win? Gear > Skill

 

There are many other gear oriented faults in the current game.

+10% hp, gear means nothing? I really don't understand what is wrong with you guys, it is 10% more hp? How can you say it means nothing?

+5 points of thickness? Are you pretty sure you are going to say once again that gear means nothing? Then you angle your ship and that is even more. Seriously, means nothing?

So much loved Trinco 1vs1, another guy has Elite French Rig, another one has no mast mods. Are you with a straight face saying that you don't understand what gear means here?

Boarding, it has nothing more than gear in it. How can anyone say gear does not matter? Boarding is so F*ed up that they should introduce new slots for boarding upgrades, instead of replacing ship upgrades. It is absolutely horrible minigame ffs. Board & Rum enabling chain boarding. Now with insane muskets.

etc.

 

Someone has so huge authority that he was in unreal way able to convince that gear does not matter. Longer you believe this lie, longer the guys who know it is true are able to abuse it against you.

Some players play a lot and have the gear. Slowly people start to know these guys and run away in OW before they are in combat range. Then admin decides to remove name plates from OW. Gank must go on.

[Beeekonda]

2 minutes ago, Cmdr RideZ said:

Random bullshit 

I cut out this out of your post "knows how to play the game = advantage"

[Slim McSauce]

6 minutes ago, Cmdr RideZ said:

 

 

When the current upgrades, gear, came out I think I might have said even day one that it sucks.

Right now the game is gear based. It is actually sad that players don't understand this already.

 

From your first post I can see that at least you know something. Remember also that we now speak only from speed, there are other pieces of gear that are simply stupid as well.

You explain that make faster ship to come to you. Well what if the faster ship is also more combat oriented or like many say "tankier" than your ship?

 

You tell to use smaller and faster ship to catch a bigger ship. If you target knows how to play the game he the advantage once again.

 

Gear can make more specialized ship but it also will most probably make your ship better in almost every possible way. If you don't have the good gear you pretty much have to specialize, you don't have any other option. Then you have to force well geared player to play like you want or hope he takes the lure.

You also have to remember that the player without gear has to do all the tricks to win well geared player. Does not sound like at all to you that gear matters? What if the player you face is equally good and understands your "tricks"? You have pretty much zero change to win? Gear > Skill

 

There are many other gear oriented faults in the current game.

+10% hp, gear means nothing? I really don't understand what is wrong with you guys, it is 10% more hp? How can you say it means nothing?

+5 points of thickness? Are you pretty sure you are going to say once again that gear means nothing? Then you angle your ship and that is even more. Seriously, means nothing?

So much loved Trinco 1vs1, another guy has Elite French Rig, another one has no mast mods. Are you with a straight face saying that you don't understand what gear means here?

Boarding, it has nothing more than gear in it. How can anyone say gear does not matter? Boarding is so F*ed up that they should introduce new slots for boarding upgrades, instead of replacing ship upgrades. It is absolutely horrible minigame ffs. Board & Rum enabling chain boarding. Now with insane muskets.

etc.

 

Someone has so huge authority that he was in unreal way able to convince that gear does not matter. Longer you believe this lie, longer the guys who know it is true are able to abuse it against you.

Some players play a lot and have the gear. Slowly people start to know these guys and run away in OW before they are in combat range. Then admin decides to remove name plates from OW. Gank must go on.

Well said. Quality posts like this deserve quality responses, not ignorance.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Slim McSauce

[Christendom]

2 hours ago, Slim McSauce said:

So a teak/WO ship with speed mods and books being faster than a fir/fir ship with speed mods, no books isn't an advantage?

You're delusional mate.

your speed mods are gazelle and navy hull.  I use copper, navy hull and spanish rig + art of shiphandling. 

If you wanna play, you gotta pay.  Sail trash and you'll only ever be trash.

Players spend time in this game to properly equip their boats with some of the better mods.  Stop diminishing their effort because you have neither the competence or the inclination to do the same.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Christendom

[Slim McSauce]

4 minutes ago, Christendom said:

your speed mods are gazelle and navy hull.  I use copper, navy hull and spanish rig + art of shiphandling. 

 

If you wanna play, you gotta pay.  Sail trash and you'll only ever be trash.

lmao, absolutely oblivious and seething.

You sound like a spoiled brat not gonna lie.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Slim McSauce

[traitorous mctraitoro]

Your missing the point. All gear does is make you more specialised, most have almost equal disadvantages for its advantages. Choosing one mod over another is specialising, but it's not some super powerful disadvantage.

You say how can 10% hp mean nothing. Because it has -2% speed. You specialised to have hp.

So someone has elite french, they have stronger masts than you, so what, just shoot elsewhere. If you had a penatration mod you even the odds.

You can't say someone using mods is somehow untouchable, or has a significant advantage, just because you wont counter them, or even match them, or change the way you fight them.

Gear only specialises, it is not a requirement for success.

[traitorous mctraitoro]

Also stop using gazelle, it's useless, 1% is literally nothing. Wasted slot