Fleet power by Nation

[admin]

LatoucheTreville posted this.

this resource is quite interesting - someone made a lot of research work.

 

http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=home

[Charles Caldwell]

Nice find!

[Magnum]

That is some fabulous information to come across. Thank you!

[Hethwill]

Yes. That is a primary source of bibliography. Their index of sources is gold.

[Domestikos]

Excelent!

[Elisabeth Vissersch]

Thank you for sharing!

[Rouleur]

Just had a quick browse at the fate of French 3rd rates. Very interesting. The number of wrecks seems to outnumber sunk in action by a large margin - open world sailing should perhaps be more dangerous than fighting!  Of course plenty were captured but most ended there days being broken up.

[Barberouge]

I wonder how much accurate the data is. The British have the same number of unrated Navy ships as all the other nations cumulated. And the French have one and a half the cumulated number of privateer ships. Also the prime ship types vary per nation: the Russians have a lot of 1st rates and 3rd rates, the Dutch a lot of 2nd and 4th rates. If we put the % of ship types compared to the total number of rated ships:

• rate            1   2    3     4     5     6

• Danish       2 - 5 - 15 - 17 - 23 - 38

• French       4 - 5 - 33 - 16 - 29 - 12

• British        3 - 5 - 23 - 17 - 31 - 21

• Dutch         2 - 6 - 17 - 33 - 15 - 26

• Turkish       8 - 7 - 26 - 28 - 22 - 9

• Portugese  0 - 0 - 28 - 35 - 24 - 12

• Russian     5 - 1 - 38 - 13 - 28 - 15

• Spanish     2 - 1 - 28 - 17 - 28 - 23

• Swedish     3 - 5 - 16 - 23 - 26 - 27

• American   1 - 0 - 10 - 0 - 58 - 31

• Venetian    6 - 0 - 47 - 25 - 17 - 4

[Hethwill]

The data is as accurate as the nominal gun mounts reference. It is quite okay and I take special attention to the Portuguese case.

 

The "Principe Real" was 80 guns nominal classification by the RN standardized table, a third rate.

In truth she kept 110 guns without any issues ( gun decks were built for 98 plus the quarter deck  during during the Mediterranean campaign under Jervis and Nelson.Our own navy shipyards classified her as a "Nau de 90 peças" meaning a "ship of the line of 90 fire pieces".

 

So yes, the data is perfectly acceptable as far as standards go

 

I will try to find the exact figures for the NRP ( portuguese ).

Edited March 2, 2015 by Hethwill_Khan

[Joao18]

Also the Portuguese built this Galleon i believe it was a ship of the line:

 

The São João Baptista (English: Saint John the Baptist), commonly known as the Botafogo, was a Portuguese galleon warship built in the 16th century, around 1534, considered the biggest and most powerful warship in the world at the time.

This ship could carry 366 bronze cannons, and had an artillery power of 1,000 tons. For this reason, it became known as Botafogo, meaning literally fire maker or spitfire in popular Portuguese.

Edited February 27, 2015 by Joao18

[.:Lt.Westen:.]

 

I wonder how much accurate the data is. The British have the same number of unrated Navy ships as all the other nations cumulated. And the French have one and a half the cumulated number of privateer ships. Also the prime ship types vary per nation: the Russians have a lot of 1st rates and 3rd rates, the Dutch a lot of 2nd and 4th rates. If we put the % of ship types compared to the total number of rated ships:

• rate            1   2    3     4     5     6

• Danish       2 - 5 - 15 - 17 - 23 - 38

• French       4 - 5 - 33 - 16 - 29 - 12

• British        3 - 5 - 23 - 17 - 31 - 21

• Dutch         2 - 6 - 17 - 33 - 15 - 26

• Turkish       8 - 7 - 26 - 28 - 22 - 9

• Portugese  0 - 0 - 28 - 35 - 24 - 12

• Russian     5 - 1 - 38 - 13 - 28 - 15

• Spanish     2 - 1 - 28 - 17 - 28 - 23

• Swedish     3 - 5 - 16 - 23 - 26 - 27

• American   1 - 0 - 10 - 0 - 58 - 31

• Venetian    6 - 0 - 47 - 25 - 17 - 4

 

i was thinking this as well