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Anyone can defend a port once, twice, thrice, but sooner or later your luck runs out and you lose the port after sustained attack. These guys put absurd timers on their port to make sure that if someone does stay up to retarded hours to take it, they dont/cant do it again. Its all about not having to worry about defending so they are free to do as they please elsewhere. Every one of the "night players" plays or has played during the day. Its all about them setting timers to deter sustained attack, not defend. Not to mention every time they've threatened to use nightflips as an offensive/trolling weapon to knock down a playerbase. Have fun "fighting" the french/pirates lol.

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6 hours ago, Christoph said:

We need a Wall for the US guys around the Bahamas. 😁

We can just move them to PvE. Since they are all allied with each other they wont even notice :P

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36 minutes ago, Potemkin said:

Anyone can defend a port once, twice, thrice, but sooner or later your luck runs out and you lose the port after sustained attack. These guys put absurd timers on their port to make sure that if someone does stay up to retarded hours to take it, they dont/cant do it again. Its all about not having to worry about defending so they are free to do as they please elsewhere. Every one of the "night players" plays or has played during the day. Its all about them defending when they want to (or dont) defend. Not to mention every time they've threatened to use nightflips as an offensive/trolling weapon to knock down a playerbase. Have fun "fighting" the french/pirates lol.

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39 minutes ago, Potemkin said:

Anyone can defend a port once, twice, thrice, but sooner or later your luck runs out and you lose the port after sustained attack. These guys put absurd timers on their port to make sure that if someone does stay up to retarded hours to take it, they dont/cant do it again. Its all about not having to worry about defending so they are free to do as they please elsewhere. Every one of the "night players" plays or has played during the day. Its all about them setting timers to deter sustained attack, not defend. Not to mention every time they've threatened to use nightflips as an offensive/trolling weapon to knock down a playerbase. Have fun "fighting" the french/pirates lol.

Surely a better solution would be to extend the cooldown timer for the next attack?

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16 hours ago, King of Crowns said:

yes game needs to die.

I mean this what y'all are dealing with here. This is what these dirtballs are after. Enjoi:)

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33 minutes ago, Jon Snow lets go said:

We can just move them to PvE. Since they are all allied with each other they wont even notice :P

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Maybe we'll get better fights there.

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If the night time players are just putting timers late to dodge you and don't actually play during that time. Then surely they shouldn't be able to defend during that timer and should be easy prey.

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32 minutes ago, Aster said:

If the night time players are just putting timers late to dodge you and don't actually play during that time. Then surely they shouldn't be able to defend during that timer and should be easy prey.

I just can't believe the EU players set all their timers at 10 am to avoid fighting us. Are they scared or what?

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52 minutes ago, RedNeckMilkMan said:

I just can't believe the EU players set all their timers at 10 am to avoid fighting us. Are they scared or what?

Yep all Eu players are affraid of the ppl outside the EU timezone. We all know that nobody from EU time have won a fight agsinst ppl from another timezone. But understand your problem. Why should the EU players have the chance to Dodge pb on a global server. Think you might have a point there. 

That EU players don’t want to grind money all the time, so they can pay for timers, so they can have PB when they are home from work and before they go to bed, is just a poor excuse. You hit right on. They are just cowards. I was actually thinking about surgest that we test a periode where timers where cheaper, but your well argumentet post changed my mind. Think we should go all in. No timers at all. Make this a true global server. In a war you can’t tell the enemy you can’t attack right now. They ofc attack, when they see the chance is best for succes. I know they will whine a bit, but they shouldn’t be allowed to use timers to dodge fights. It the want timers it should cost much more. Maybe like 3-4 kk a day

 Set the Caribbean free from cowards

 @admin Remove all timers

One truely free server is one happy server

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Oh wait I might have made a mistake. EU players will proberbly then only flip ports when those from other timezones can’t be online. That needed to be fixed, so they can’t dodge pb’s.

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There was a suggestion a while back that control for a port was determined by a series of battles over a period, a day for example, not just 1 decisive battle.  I like this idea, because then timers would be irrelevant, and global activity would matter, not continental activity.  You could organize with your clans globally.

Only drawback is for smaller nations, but we already have that and always will.

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31 minutes ago, Jean Ribault said:

There was a suggestion a while back that control for a port was determined by a series of battles over a period, a day for example, not just 1 decisive battle.  I like this idea, because then timers would be irrelevant, and global activity would matter, not continental activity.  You could organize with your clans globally.

Only drawback is for smaller nations, but we already have that and always will.

A solution to small nations could be just to remove them totally. Lets focus players in few big nations. Lets have Pirates, they ofc need to be there. Gb, because of there real naval history. Spain because of there real present at that time. Maybe put in US because it is a big nation, with lots of consumers. Just that 4. It also would fix the problem with low population.

If we are going to make a gameplay thats make it even harder ore impossible to be a small nation, then I think it is better they don’t exist. I joined Denmark and am in Denmark, because I am from Denmark. Think lots of players when they start will join in the nation they live in, if its a posibility. Those players might we loose, if they can’t have a good time. Then it is better if they from the start get in a big and alive nation. But do think that only will happens if they can’t join in  there real life nation.

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A big issue is the fact that we have 11 nations and 400 players on a good day.  Nations simply cannot have round the clock support because the base is so diluted.  

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3 hours ago, Christendom said:

A big issue is the fact that we have 11 nations and 400 players on a good day.  Nations simply cannot have round the clock support because the base is so diluted.  

Neither can they keep finding money for timers for ports. 

It is a big issue for alot of players. For many there is no reason to do RvR because of this. They will just loose them anyway when they can’t be online. We hold Misteriosa for a long time. We knew we had to have timers on, otherwise the GB at that time just would have flipped the port when we cant be on. We had the port to get some fights.

Denmark is maybe a bit special, with basicly only one clan paying for the ports. But before every pb players basicly said, lets win the fight, but loose the port. We got feed up trading gold to pay. So we just Downsized at stopped do RvR. We only do it when we are attacked, now we have a deal with the polish about friendly pb each week. But I think it is sad that is where we are now and I think the expensive timers are a big part of it.

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*cough cough*

half the game is based on denying fights by most means available... ;) Why should Conquest be different ?

Nature of a sandbox - we make it as we want it to be.WE, players in general, want no fights except when we want them.

*sips coffee*

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2 hours ago, staun said:

Neither can they keep finding money for timers for ports. 

It is a big issue for alot of players. For many there is no reason to do RvR because of this. They will just loose them anyway when they can’t be online. We hold Misteriosa for a long time. We knew we had to have timers on, otherwise the GB at that time just would have flipped the port when we cant be on. We had the port to get some fights.

Denmark is maybe a bit special, with basicly only one clan paying for the ports. But before every pb players basicly said, lets win the fight, but loose the port. We got feed up trading gold to pay. So we just Downsized at stopped do RvR. We only do it when we are attacked, now we have a deal with the polish about friendly pb each week. But I think it is sad that is where we are now and I think the expensive timers are a big part of it.

totally agree with you at least they should not be that expensive with anything

and in return for the money, like when having a port owned by the clan, have a reserved dock space for instance, or a free building slot.

there is no reason for a clan to have to own a port for that kind of money 

its contra productive

(you own a port to have some privileges for your governmental possession like a free parking space at your own carport  ...)

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9 hours ago, RedNeckMilkMan said:

I just can't believe the EU players set all their timers at 10 am to avoid fighting us. Are they scared or what?

I just can't believe US players set all their timers at 4 am to avoid fighting EU. Are they scared or what?

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36 minutes ago, Batman said:

I just can't believe US players set all their timers at 4 am to avoid fighting EU. Are they scared or what?

Silly guestion batsi. Ofc it is us the EU players that are affraid.  Don't try to turn it around. 

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Was wrong of me to disregard your question. But it gives it self it is the many EU timers that fear the few Night timers. And words like sleep and work just id excuses.

So my sercier aopolygy.

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10 hours ago, Aster said:

If the night time players are just putting timers late to dodge you and don't actually play during that time. Then surely they shouldn't be able to defend during that timer and should be easy prey.

Well, think it would demand someone to want to be online at that time to do it. Guess nobody wants to waist there beauty sleep. 

If I got Crissy right. He and kinky have made peace and don’t fight each other anymore. So who is actually left to do it?

Danes are a bit better off right now. We got some amarican timers. Not sure there numbers are enough to be a fighting force at Night. And the EU timers danes rarely have the chance to support them, because of work and real life.

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I've said it many times. An American player is only going to play with players of his same schedule. It does not matter if we are in several servers, or all in it, it does not matter if is boring to fight against the same players.There can not be interaction between players with different schedules ... I'm not going to fight with an American player. For that to happen, one of us has to stop sleeping, and that is very difficult to happen. I understand that when the game comes out and there are many more players, there will be two servers as there was at the beginning. This is a test used to detect mechanics that do not work, such as this one.

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1 hour ago, staun said:

And words like sleep and work just id excuses.

So basically any IRL thing you have to do in order to keep being "alive" is an excuse to avoid an event in a game?

KeK

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On 10/7/2018 at 10:53 AM, Christoph said:

@Admiral Horatio Hornblower

 

When will you finally take the remaining Spanish ports?

@Admiral Horatio Homblower has never been in a port battle so he can't take the remaining ones... 

I'm mean @Admiral Horatio Hornblower ;)

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1 hour ago, Trashumi Mexiwara said:

So basically any IRL thing you have to do in order to keep being "alive" is an excuse to avoid an event in a game?

KeK

Yep just bad excuses😀

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