Palatinose Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Best thread in a while I have to say No probs with merged servers, no issues with US (or non-euro) timezone players. If Euro players drop timers on important ports by mistake, well a flip is what they get. US faced the same issues if they dropped timers. They just don't. Perhaps they are smarter? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Rainsborough Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 This thread just shows how much more tightfisted Europeans are 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Christendom said: Perhaps a crucial port of as much importance as you say....that close... to your capital should have had a timer. It was also fully defended by Spain and the reason for taking that port was due to Spain interfering with a Pirate port battle during US prime time where members of 7up and various other clans decided to stay up late to screen us out against another nation. Clearly you had the chops to get players to do that, but not attempt to re-take Key West. Jag’s arrogance lost you Key West. Whatever the circumstances of Key West conquest, the demo is pretty clear. By being so passionated, Chris, to explore every temporary tested mechanics to your advantage, you are indeed helping a lot the community to reveal mechanic faillures. There is no better way to show the vicious effects of Timers that generate sterile RVR for a single zone player base Faction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, King of Crowns said: 1)thank the devs for attacking usa playerbase and running most of the usa players off. That is a nice reason to explain your remarquable nocturnal conquests from SINGLE ZONE PLAYER BASE FACTION. 1 hour ago, King of Crowns said: 2) WO/blanc as the dominant night force on the server for many months now has done everything with less than 20 active players.... I wish there could be some medals in NA, you would have several on your uniform ! congratulation ! In the other hand, your statement confirms how a bunch of 20 players can screw rvr evolution for a much larger bunch of players by using defensive timers. 1 hour ago, King of Crowns said: so in short... just stop sucking. and stop crying. That's the way ! carry on with this constructive eloquence Fact is we did test a very nice episode of equitable rvr in the EUR server, despite a low player population. Fact is low player population is only circumstantial, because the game is still under testing. Thousands of accounts will be active again in the final version. This BIG RVR ISSUE will be resolved by then, otherwise a final NA version with sterile RVR will be doomed. Assuming that the main configuration of NA is based on maps, factions & conquest that are mostly MEANT FOR RVR PLAY. Edited October 7, 2018 by Celtiberofrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said: This thread just shows how much more tightfisted Europeans are Tightfisted maybe, but much more bored ? absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundgemunkey Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, King of Crowns said: tonight there were more than 60 brits...…. a total of more than 25% of the server pop at the time. Nav isn't british because of lack of leadership/skill... not because they don't have 10 people to grind and field a port battle. maybe they will get their crap together soon. everyone keeps saying its because there isn't enough people on during usa timezones to fight these port battles. 1)thank the devs for attacking usa playerbase and running most of the usa players off. 2) WO/blanc as the dominant night force on the server for many months now has done everything with less than 20 active players.... with the new BR system it is possible to defend/attack ports with very few people. I would be willing to bet that the majority of the nations have 10 players online in each nation during the usa timezones. so in short... just stop sucking. and stop crying. isnt there a condition where when your frightened you start seeing things or things seem bigger .. think it happens in most wars where for instance a scout will report a platoon as a been a regiment etc we had 25 plus the port battle fleet and maybe a few hangers on that were not on TS ... so shall we change your 60 plus to around 30-35 , 15-25 were eu players who stayed up ..for my part i was going to be up for the GP an Mcgregor fight ,,,so why not play NA while waiting ...so it was a one off i suspect and you were not the main attraction ...so yeah we usually do have a round 10 -15 Edited October 7, 2018 by Grundgemunkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedNeckMilkMan Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Damn the EU salt mines are in full swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, RKY said: The game only provide tools, which should be used wisely. tools should be used wisely and also with profound resignation for those who can't stay up all night long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Batman said: You US guys could actually have nice content, if you would just rvr against each other and not just take empty ports in the middle of the server night. You mean the guys we’ve been fighting non stop for over a year? After a while when you fight the same group over and over it gets tedious. We stopped recently, let each other do our own thing more and take a bit of a break. It’s been great. GB just took more empty ports during the daytime this week than I have at night in the past 2 months. So yea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Celtiberofrog said: Whatever the circumstances of Key West conquest, the demo is pretty clear. By being so passionated, Chris, to explore every temporary tested mechanics to your advantage, you are indeed helping a lot the community to reveal mechanic faillures. There is no better way to show the vicious effects of Timers that generate sterile RVR for a single zone player base Faction. This is a crock of shit. You’ve had about as many empty PBS against GB this week than you’ve had vs pirates in the past couple months. Most of them in your time zone. Sterile RVR = Spain starts losing and quits...regardless of which time zone player base beats them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christoph Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Christendom said: Sterile RVR = Spain starts losing and quits... most good players have quit before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Christendom said: Sterile RVR = Spain starts losing and quits...regardless of which time zone player base beats them Come on !! Empty PB's are mostly linked to lack of active palyerbase Lack of active playerbase is mostly linked to rvr demotivation RvR demotivation is mostly linked to timer system that gives advantage to faction with double time zone players. In a single global server with current port timers, RVR can only work with a mechanic that would force even population of multiple zones into each Faction. UTOPIC !! Edited October 7, 2018 by Celtiberofrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Christendom said: You mean the guys we’ve been fighting non stop for over a year? After a while when you fight the same group over and over it gets tedious. We stopped recently, let each other do our own thing more and take a bit of a break. GB is fighting Spain since Steam release, carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 The RvR mechanic would work fine if each nations population was diverse and the population was not as low as it is. Now as blaming the Americans and the server merger for the population decrease, that is a load of mallarky. Sure there were probably a few people that left because of that. Just whiney Euro trash and pouting Americana that just fall into terms like night flipping etc. There were bigger factors such as the updates becoming very stale, rvr becoming more meaningless, and lack of other content. Much of what we are seeing now in the population decrease is the same trend we have always had and that is because of people just waiting for this upcoming significant update. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Batman said: GB is fighting Spain since Steam release, carry on. both of you quit every other 3 months. carry on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Christendom said: both of you quit every other 3 months. carry on Precisely, NA is not specialy designed for frentic player like you, we are testing and Dev learn from us. So when server population decrease it's a valuable feedback. Frentic players do highlight the mechanics faillures, so carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Frantic or fanatic? Frentic is not a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christoph Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 We need a Wall for the US guys around the Bahamas. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Christendom said: Jag’s arrogance lost you Key West. By the way, this is so ridiculous & childish !! Jag's and his friends are very good people, for so long the Spanish player community has waited to include non-spanish speaking players, 7UP finally arrived with good will...a vengeful & proud player assign a bleeding timer by the Spanish Capital doors and claims it's a 7UP guy fault !!!! Can you give us a break ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, Christendom said: Frantic or fanatic? Frentic is not a word both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potemkin Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Anyone can defend a port once, twice, thrice, but sooner or later your luck runs out and you lose the port after sustained attack. These guys put absurd timers on their port to make sure that if someone does stay up to retarded hours to take it, they dont/cant do it again. Its all about not having to worry about defending so they are free to do as they please elsewhere. Every one of the "night players" plays or has played during the day. Its all about them setting timers to deter sustained attack, not defend. Not to mention every time they've threatened to use nightflips as an offensive/trolling weapon to knock down a playerbase. Have fun "fighting" the french/pirates lol. Edited October 7, 2018 by Potemkin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Lisa Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Christoph said: We need a Wall for the US guys around the Bahamas. 😁 We can just move them to PvE. Since they are all allied with each other they wont even notice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabman Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, Potemkin said: Anyone can defend a port once, twice, thrice, but sooner or later your luck runs out and you lose the port after sustained attack. These guys put absurd timers on their port to make sure that if someone does stay up to retarded hours to take it, they dont/cant do it again. Its all about not having to worry about defending so they are free to do as they please elsewhere. Every one of the "night players" plays or has played during the day. Its all about them defending when they want to (or dont) defend. Not to mention every time they've threatened to use nightflips as an offensive/trolling weapon to knock down a playerbase. Have fun "fighting" the french/pirates lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Rainsborough Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, Potemkin said: Anyone can defend a port once, twice, thrice, but sooner or later your luck runs out and you lose the port after sustained attack. These guys put absurd timers on their port to make sure that if someone does stay up to retarded hours to take it, they dont/cant do it again. Its all about not having to worry about defending so they are free to do as they please elsewhere. Every one of the "night players" plays or has played during the day. Its all about them setting timers to deter sustained attack, not defend. Not to mention every time they've threatened to use nightflips as an offensive/trolling weapon to knock down a playerbase. Have fun "fighting" the french/pirates lol. Surely a better solution would be to extend the cooldown timer for the next attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeekonda Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Its just what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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