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WAR of the LOVERS! Spain VS France

Spain vs France  

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  1. 1. Which nation will win the war?

  2. 2. In your point of view, which nation began the war?

  3. 3. which side are you on?

  4. 4. Does Spain deserve a Total War against them?



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BREAKING NEWS!!!

The citizens of Fort Royal are in panic! A russian fleet will be fighting tomorrow for Roseau. 

The invasion of french homewaters has begun. 

Russia will join spain in the fight against France.

As I said; same people, same ideas.

In the meantime, HAVOC is attacking again prussia. To the prussians, all I can say is: JOIN US!

Join us and fight against our common foes!

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1 hour ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

Off topic. Follow the rules, my spanish friend.

You dont have any spanish friends 🙂, only family from La Linea.

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11 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

As I said; same people, same ideas.

Join us and fight against our common foes!

Many of us have played this game for a long time, so we know how "night flips" effect this game. Now most of the US time zone RvR players are in France and there are some in the Pirate nation. But in sted of fighting each other they are allied! So then almost a 100% of the active US time zone RvR players are allied or consider each other neutral so they do not attack each other...  <- ZERG!

We have had this problem before. Last time the US time zone players (US nation and GB nations 1 year ago) painted the map by doing uncontested PBs in the middle of the night. They did not do it for fun or content, just to destroy the game for the EU time zone players. Do you guys remember who cried their eyes out with walls of text on this forum back then? French nation..!  The end result was a server split.. And EU server survived on it own, but that was not the case for the US server.. 

So now we are merged back together, and history is repeating its self.. 

When 3/4 of the total server population is EU time zone and France has a majority of EU time zone players and clans, but most of the French ports have defense timer in the middle of the night (for EU time zone players), then GJ France you have uncovered a way to exploit the mechanic. BEcause there is nobody to attack those ports with those timers when all US time zone RvR players are working together..  So good for France, but they are avoiding RvR = avoiding PvP = avoiding Combat. And this should create a response!

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Except a mechanic to prevent said night flips is available for everyone to use.  Unlike last time.  Such a key mechanic was omitted from your whine posts.  Curious.  Put timers on the ports you want or risk losing them.  Seems like a reasonable request to me.  Hold less territory if you can’t afford a lot of timers.

Both of you were Russian when night flips were on your side for a while and most of the Belize area was taken from the Brits at night.  Most of the ports Spain owns currently in that region were take directly by the Russian night crew.  It was ok then though?  Maybe you should give them back to GB?

Another thought is that these are self inflicted wounds.  Spain wasn’t attacked until JAGs and 7up started meddling in the night crews RVR fights.  Perhaps you should be picking your faction leaders a bit more wisely.   Spain directly ended an evening feud or “war” between 2 nighttime groups that have been fighting each other for over a year.  Quite a feat I must add.  Both of you seem to also omit that these 2 factions that stopped attacking each other did so for a reason.  They’ve also been fighting each other since well before the merge.  We stop for 2 weeks and folks lose their minds

 

So TLDR, put timers on your ports and stop letting JAGs do diplo stuff.  

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They keep trying to square the circle ....
They keep trying that players who have different schedules play together, as if that were possible ..........
And time after, here we are ...
80% of the server paying the broken dishes of the remaining 20% of the server ......

The good thing is that now 1000 players can not leave the game as they did then ..... Now they can only leave about 200 or 300 ....
For some, this is a breakthrough .....

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1 hour ago, Christendom said:

Most of the ports Spain owns currently in that region were take directly by the Russian night crew.  

Fake news!

In Belize area spain only owns Tantum Cuzamil and that was taken from the Brits. 

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1 hour ago, Christendom said:

Except a mechanic to prevent said night flips is available for everyone to use.  Unlike last time.  Such a key mechanic was omitted from your whine posts.  Curious.  Put timers on the ports you want or risk losing them.  Seems like a reasonable request to me.  Hold less territory if you can’t afford a lot of timers.

Both of you were Russian when night flips were on your side for a while and most of the Belize area was taken from the Brits at night.  Most of the ports Spain owns currently in that region were take directly by the Russian night crew.  It was ok then though?  Maybe you should give them back to GB?

Another thought is that these are self inflicted wounds.  Spain wasn’t attacked until JAGs and 7up started meddling in the night crews RVR fights.  Perhaps you should be picking your faction leaders a bit more wisely.   Spain directly ended an evening feud or “war” between 2 nighttime groups that have been fighting each other for over a year.  Quite a feat I must add.  Both of you seem to also omit that these 2 factions that stopped attacking each other did so for a reason.  They’ve also been fighting each other since well before the merge.  We stop for 2 weeks and folks lose their minds

 

So TLDR, put timers on your ports and stop letting JAGs do diplo stuff.  

As much as you repeat, the truth is what it is and precisely you are not very close

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1 hour ago, Christendom said:

Both of you seem to also omit that these 2 factions that stopped attacking each other did so for a reason.  

So why did all the U.S. time zone players stop fighting each other and prefer to nightflip now? 

I am sure you have very good reasons to do endless empty port battles, cause I did that a couple of times unintentionally (the brits sent a 2 ship troll fleet once, the other time they entered in force only to escape 2 min later) and I can tell you it's a most frustrating waste of time. 

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1 hour ago, JG14_Cuzn said:

Ummm. 

Timers people!  

Nightflips cannot happen if a timer is used. 

This is true, but it does not solve the problem ... If timers are put in European time ... How can those who have another schedule play?

My thinking is not against anyone ....

I just think that two players with different schedules cannot be in the same battle. 

Timers are a great handicap that will undoubtedly be used again and again.

 

I'm not saying, the time of day is good, or the night time is the bad .....

80% of the server uses the daily schedule, so there are more complaints, but the problem is the same for both.

Simply, the night schedule ruins the game to more people ....

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1 hour ago, van Veen said:

So why did all the U.S. time zone players stop fighting each other and prefer to nightflip now? 

I am sure you have very good reasons to do endless empty port battles, cause I did that a couple of times unintentionally (the brits sent a 2 ship troll fleet once, the other time they entered in force only to escape 2 min later) and I can tell you it's a most frustrating waste of time. 

Most of us just PVP at night?  Last week during the botched multi flips my guys sunk US time zoned players trying to flip a port.  So I fail to see the problem.  Last night I was dodging revenge fleets up on the east coast and kingys gang was sinking brits.  

RVR is pretty quiet at night, most of us don’t want to own more ports than we can afford to put timers on.  A lesson perhaps Spain should learn.  

Though now that the shallows aren’t all requin fests it might be fun to go back to trying those.  We’ll see.  

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2 hours ago, Christendom said:

Spain wasn’t attacked until JAGs and 7up started meddling in the night crews RVR fights.  Perhaps you should be picking your faction leaders a bit more wisely.  

I m the new warlord now.  😎

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49 minutes ago, Louis Garneray said:

Can you explain? I'm not sure to understand how "the night schedule ruins the game to more people"?

 

Easy....

EU timer population 80%

US timer population 20%

Eu timers ruin the game for 20% of people from the server

US timers ruin the game for 80% of people from the server

So US timers ruin the game for more people than EU timers.

42 minutes ago, Louis Garneray said:

I have no complain about not being able to play vs Euro players.

You don't play against european people..... You play against people from outside europe.... When you play, european people are sleeping.... And viceversa....

Maybe on weekend, people can change a litle their playing time, but as 90% are like that.

I repeat.... This is not against nobody.... The problem is the same for both, but european people are more, and it seem the problem is from european people, but the problem is the same for all...

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3 hours ago, Christendom said:

Another thought is that these are self inflicted wounds.  Spain wasn’t attacked until JAGs and 7up started meddling in the night crews RVR fights.  Perhaps you should be picking your faction leaders a bit more wisely.   Spain directly ended an evening feud or “war” between 2 nighttime groups that have been fighting each other for over a year.  Quite a feat I must add.  Both of you seem to also omit that these 2 factions that stopped attacking each other did so for a reason.  They’ve also been fighting each other since well before the merge.  We stop for 2 weeks and folks lose their minds

You didn't get the point. 

You do what you do in game. That's fine. Absolutely no problem with that. But please stop repeating ^this bullshit that spain and particular one player is responsible for what you do. 

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1 minute ago, Louis Garneray said:

We don't care about day time Spain. We care about playing with all the players during our time.

I would like to play against you in my timer, but probably your'e sleeping..........

It happend the same in your case.....that's the big problem, we can not play together, because we do not have the same schedule .....

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Just now, Louis Garneray said:

 

If you want to play vs me.... please come live on the American continent. Otherwise there is nothing I can do for you. Sorry.

At least........ Thanks....

we play in the same place, but not against each other, that is the big lie of global server uncovered by timers .....
We play in the same place, but in turns ...... Not together ........

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Interesting fact

181 (58%) ports have no timer :)

And there are players in game in any time

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1 minute ago, qw569 said:

Interesting fact

181 (58%) ports have no timer :)

And there are players in game in any time

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No no qw, you can't bring reason and logic into this, that's unfair.

If so many EU play at EU time, they should be fighting each other more :).

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What about EU players that play late sometimes ?  Are they US/CAN/Americas ? Or Americans that play early, are they EU sometimes ? 

Silly round earth... 🙃

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Exactly. Keep clean. Use other analogies.

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