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2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said:

Why can't you confess that you sink in La Habanna safe zone as well? I was in a battle when it happened with your Endy. Spaniards sink a lot in French or Swedish safe zones. But we sink a lot of French and Swedes as well, and no traders with a few logs in, but lineships. By the way, do you have so few white oak that you overestimate the value of this log so badly? Western part of the map has way more white oak than needed. Krautz cargo had maybe a value of 600k. That's half of the amount of money you have to pay every day for maintenance. Key West was the port of Krautz old clan. He safed at least 10 times as much money by not paying for a timer than he lost with this attack. Pretty good deal - for him. While you sunk one o7 trader 20 traders passed Key West without seeing a single enemy but with cargo for millions in hold.

Problem of VCO is not that your ships get sunk. Problem is that your clan is too weak to fight the other night crews on the server. Imagine you could defeat WO, BLANC or UWS one day. How would your importance rise in Naval Action political system. You would be a sought after allied for every nation, which has to fight the french night flippers. But because of the weakness of your clan you cannot rule as the King of the Night but must serve as the Drama Queen of Key West. 😂

You do realize that was amplify you sunk right?  I was on the requin.  You’re getting old and senile graf.  Or is it the bath salts again.    

WO/Blanc/UWS is the largest block of nighttime RVR players and we cannot match their numbers or skill.  Rax knew what he was doing when he jumped ship over there.  Prior to him joining their weakness was being multi flipped, if coordinated correctly.  Now they can defend multiple ports a night if they do choose.  We can’t compete, so we don’t.

But really you mistake my intentions.  I’m not trying to become the King of night time RVR or a sought after ally.  Frankly I’d prefer to own zero ports and have zero allies, but unfortunately the game necessitates both.  Our aim in going pirate was to simply PvP more and assist the other pirates with RVR goals and sink a lot of people.  Then you, or really JAGs, had to go pissing us off.  Spain has since been punished for it and we’re enjoying our new vacation home in Key West.  Not only did we take the port off you we now have Spanish clans paying the timers on it for us and meanwhile 7ups port bill just got higher.  Smells like victory to me.   

I like you Graf, but I feel like you’re cracking.  

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4 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said:

Why can't you confess that you sink in La Habanna safe zone as well? I was in a battle when it happened with your Endy. Spaniards sink a lot in French or Swedish safe zones. But we sink a lot of French and Swedes as well, and no traders with a few logs in, but lineships.

Sinking enemies in safe zone isn't quite extraordinary. It's just the proof than your nation is able to muster enough people to get out of their home port and fight a little.
Sinking enemies is not much since a captain only need to tp to the nearest home port to get back to fight.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Louis Garneray said:

Sinking enemies in safe zone isn't quite extraordinary. It's just the proof than your nation is able to muster enough people to get out of their home port and fight a little.
Sinking enemies is not much since a captain only need to tp to the nearest home port to get back to fight.

 

 

Graf doesn't really know how to PVP.  He doesn't solo and he doesn't go out in anything small.

He usually goes out in a group of bellonas or higher, sinks a small fleet or 2 and either sails or is sent home.  This to me isn't PVP and it's not something I find particularly thrilling.  I don't really begrudge the players who do, but this notion that they're "Real PVPers" amuses me.  Everyone seems to do it I guess.  It's just organized sinking of coast guard noobs.  To each his own I suppose.  

This weekend I was in the requin outside Mariel and tagged an LGV in.  He used the AI reinforce, which was a brig (laugh..) and I assume called for help in nation.  Boarded him quickly and as I was doing so a Herc joined and tried to break us up.  Herc failed, I got the LGV and then about 7-8 other players joined in various spots.  Decided to yolo and boarded the herc really quick and then had to wade through a few ships to get out.  One lucky demast or a really good chain and I would of been sunk.  I find this type of PVP far more thrilling and enjoyable.  But it won't get you to #1 on the leaderboard (not that I see Graf on there often).  The requin might be OP still, but it sure is fun. 

My point in all this being that folks think the leaderboard and sinking mass quantities of seals is the end all be all of PVP.  These types of players whine about the safe zones because their style of play is ruined.  I love the safe zones.  I find knowing where to gank, where the gaps are, how to position before joining so you can leave with the wind, best way to pit each ship for rage boarding......I find these far more skillful and difficult than sinking a bunch of frigates while in bellonas outside KPR.  But maybe that's just me.

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2 hours ago, Christendom said:

Graf doesn't really know how to PVP.  He doesn't solo and he doesn't go out in anything small.

He usually goes out in a group of bellonas or higher, sinks a small fleet or 2 and either sails or is sent home.  This to me isn't PVP and it's not something I find particularly thrilling.  I don't really begrudge the players who do, but this notion that they're "Real PVPers" amuses me.  Everyone seems to do it I guess.  It's just organized sinking of coast guard noobs.  To each his own I suppose.  

This weekend I was in the requin outside Mariel and tagged an LGV in.  He used the AI reinforce, which was a brig (laugh..) and I assume called for help in nation.  Boarded him quickly and as I was doing so a Herc joined and tried to break us up.  Herc failed, I got the LGV and then about 7-8 other players joined in various spots.  Decided to yolo and boarded the herc really quick and then had to wade through a few ships to get out.  One lucky demast or a really good chain and I would of been sunk.  I find this type of PVP far more thrilling and enjoyable.  But it won't get you to #1 on the leaderboard (not that I see Graf on there often).  The requin might be OP still, but it sure is fun. 

My point in all this being that folks think the leaderboard and sinking mass quantities of seals is the end all be all of PVP.  These types of players whine about the safe zones because their style of play is ruined.  I love the safe zones.  I find knowing where to gank, where the gaps are, how to position before joining so you can leave with the wind, best way to pit each ship for rage boarding......I find these far more skillful and difficult than sinking a bunch of frigates while in bellonas outside KPR.  But maybe that's just me.

So hunt traders is your idea of good PvP?

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4 minutes ago, staun said:

So hunt traders is your idea of good PvP?

You mean hunting traders while dodging a 8v1 in a battle?  Yes.  And even historically accurate for this game.  Privateering is PVP.

I find sitting off KPR in 6 bellonas while waiting or the brits to assemble enough frigates for you to slaughter to be lazy.  Perhaps is this game and it's players focused more on the small ship actions and not hyper unrealistic battles with endless repairs it would perhaps be in a better place and far more accommodating.

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11 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said:

Repairs are limited by time cooldown and ship cargo storage. One day players might understand it ;)

Anything more than 1 hull and 1 rig is more than I care to have.  Thanks  😕

 

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2 hours ago, Christendom said:

You mean hunting traders while dodging a 8v1 in a battle?  Yes.  And even historically accurate for this game.  Privateering is PVP.

I find sitting off KPR in 6 bellonas while waiting or the brits to assemble enough frigates for you to slaughter to be lazy.  Perhaps is this game and it's players focused more on the small ship actions and not hyper unrealistic battles with endless repairs it would perhaps be in a better place and far more accommodating.

I know oure timezones gives different opertunities. But look at @Captain Reversestream from yesterday. 

So how was my day yesterday.

Was short on early morning, chased of a Reguin, that had attacked a trader. Logged of.

Logged in: 6 BF in area of Amalienborg. We where player online , so we went out to fight them. Was a 6vs6. Different sizes ships. But a balanced fight, with a smal advantage for us. But they didn’t run and we had a fun fight.

Bf came back to Pick a fight with the polish. They where in first rates and some 3 rate. We helped the polish, and was doubke there numbers. But an even fight. Think the loses in ships was the same.

Ended the day when we went for the patrol area. Joined some pirates that was outnumbred agsinst Sweden. Got killed fast(was on the 12 beer, didn’t help the skill of s poor player)

But yes Hunt in a requin and Dodge a revenge fleet is more fun.

 

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