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[Abram Svensson]

who do i need to pay, to get a HAVOC-Flag withim the DLC?

[Raf Van Boom]

Need them national flags... red names are visible only at short distances.

<----- I also want my dextera domini!

Edited September 24, 2018 by Le Raf Boom

[Sento de Benimaclet]

5 hours ago, SirAlatriste said:

I will try to find it, if it is possible to achieve.

It does not seem to have any banner or standard, I could only find this:

Cover of the Royal Ordinances of the Casa de Contratación de Sevilla. Edition of 1553.

FUENTE: De Martin de Montesdoca - Universidad Complutense de Madrid http://biblioteca.ucm.es/foa/41030.php, Dominio público, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=26315413

Edited September 24, 2018 by Sento de Benimaclet

[admin]

Does anybody have paintings showing original colors of the holy roman empire banner (ensign)? please post pics, paintings, drawings, photographs 

[admin]

19 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said:

 

https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/de_roman.html

I need paintings. 
like this  but for HRE (land units are ok too) 

[z4ys]

44 minutes ago, admin said:

Does anybody have paintings showing original colors of the holy roman empire banner (ensign)? please post pics, paintings, drawings, photographs 
 

Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation (1410–1806, Darstellung von Albrecht Altdorfer)

[admin]

thank you guys

[Sento de Benimaclet]

4 hours ago, Banished Privateer said:

Found also this:



This double-headed eagle is from the Casa de Austria, Spanish Habsburgs. In the shield of the center you can see the standards of Castilla y León kingdom and Corona de Aragón. In the lower part, the Golden Fleece (Toisón de oro) is observed. In the upper part appears the date 1531, is therefore the reign of Emperor Charles I of Spain.

Edited September 25, 2018 by Sento de Benimaclet

[Sento de Benimaclet]

16 hours ago, Banished Privateer said:

That is true, but didn't Habsurgs seat on the throne of the HRE at the time and use the same eagle?

Definitely. But what differentiates this flag from the others is the inclusion of the Golden Fleece. The Insigne Order of the Golden Fleece is an order of cavalry founded in 1429 by the Duke of Burgundy and Count of Flanders, Philip III of Burgundy. It is one of the most prestigious and ancient cavalry orders in Europe, and is closely linked to the Habsburg dynasty and the crowns of Austria and Spain. That has traditionally led the Spaniards to think that the double-headed eagle was the symbol of the Spanish Austrias, not as an imperial standard. You are totally right. This page may interest you:

www.loeser.us/flags/german.html

 

 

 

[Sento de Benimaclet]

The Bedford Flag.

 

The Bedford Flag may be the oldest complete flag known to exist in the United States. It's description matches one made for a cavalry troop of the Massachusetts Bay Militia in the French and Indian Wars. Legend claims it is the flag carried by Bedford Minuteman, Nathaniel Page, to the Concord Bridge on April 19, 1775, at the beginning of the American Revolution. There is, however, no real proof, either from testimonials or diaries that mention any flag flown that day by either side, except one by a British officer (Lt. Barker), who reported that British grenadiers chopped down and destroyed a flag and liberty pole standing on a hill near Concord Center. However, he reports that this was done hours before the Bedford's militiamen arrived at Concord.

The Latin inscription "Vince Aut Morire" means "conquer or die." The arm emerging from the clouds represents the arm of God. The original is housed at the Bedford, Massachusetts Town Library.

 

FUENTE: http://www.loeser.us/flags/revolution.html

      

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[VirtuallyIdiotic]

On 7/4/2018 at 10:35 AM, Silenced from posting said:

 

This is a must for Spain. It was the navy flag used for a long time in the XVIII century.

 

 

Take a look at this article too for more historical flags.

https://www.todoababor.es/vida_barcos/elnavio.htm#banderas

 

 

@admin Is this going to be the new Espana flag or is this just a test run of the dlc flag?

[Malachi]

Not quite on topic, but interesting nonetheless:

https://archive.org/details/britishflagsthei00perruoft

[Fluffy Fishy]

[admin]

polish flags question

please can someone clarify the differences between the flags
(some of them have swedish insignia (blue crowns and crosses))

and some dont

[admin]

On 9/27/2018 at 8:17 AM, Davos Seaworth said:

 

 

@admin Is this going to be the new Espana flag or is this just a test run of the dlc flag?

test run

[GhastlyGhost]

@admin

Its flag used when Commonwealth was ruled by house of Vasa members.

We had 3 "Vasa" kings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_III_Vasa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Władysław_IV_Vasa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II_Casimir_Vasa

Edited September 28, 2018 by GhastlyGhost

[admin]

6 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said:

On the cardiac shield was most often the ancestral coat of the current reigning monarch.

 

also thinking about adding the pumped BICEPS flag version 

what do you guys think

[Serk]

10 minutes ago, GhastlyGhost said:

@admin

Its flag used when Commonwealth was ruled by house of Vasa members.

We had 3 "Vasa" kings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_III_Vasa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Władysław_IV_Vasa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II_Casimir_Vasa

The second flag is the royal banner. I guess the question is: was it used on regular flags or on the royal banner only? (When the king was on board)

Edited September 28, 2018 by Serk

[Raf Van Boom]

Those fluffy things are supposed to be clouds, the whole thing is supposed to represent the Lord's arm (dextera domini). There seems to be some disagreement about the clouds though. Still, I think the clouds make it look much better and actually give it the proper meaning: Lord protect us

[Njord]

45 minutes ago, admin said:

what do you guys think

I would rather like to see the pirate version to be honest since we already have a very similar in the game but the more flags the better!

[LeBoiteux]

On 7/5/2018 at 3:26 PM, DesMoines said:

Under Last King of French Kingdom (Louis XVI)

Louis XVI's original royal (personal & naval) flag (made in 1786) :

Source : here.

 

On 7/5/2018 at 1:25 PM, SirAlatriste said:

Very interesting document as it is an official one from the French Navy made in 1756 at the Minister of the Navy's request.

One can see, for example :

• the royal flag

• two flags of the French galleys

• the flag of several French provincial cities and areas : Marseilles, Dunkirk, Calais, Provence...

• two flags of the French Merchant Navy

• the flags of several other nations...

 

The last but not the least, regardless of the bad jokes about it, I'd really like to have in game the historical white flag, used by the warships of the French Royal Navy (certainly the easiest to 'draw' and implement 😉 :

Interesting source (in French) about the French flags with the reference of the legal texts : here. 

Edited October 19, 2018 by LeBoiteux

[OjK]

All pictures from National Maritime Museum in Gdańsk

I made them quite a while ago, if better details are needed I can go there with my camera, and make proper pictures, not some snapshots with the phone.

1) The oldest one - XV/XVI century - banner used by warships, reconstruction of the desing based on the painting from Dwór Artusa, stolen and lost during WW2
Refers to this particular banner (with eagle) is commonly found on many other sources and encyclopedias. Can link them if needed.

2) Later banner, from period of XVI/XVII century 
Evolution of previous navy banner.

3) Gdańsk Banner - for centuries, the only port of Poland had their own banner as well. Would be cool to implement it as well.

 

Also, a word about our current banner.

It's basically bit innacurate. First, the "arm with the sword" is basically a civilian ships banner. There was plenty of Dutch, Germans living in the city (someone actually linked the flag here as a Dutch one, which is correct). During the Battle of Oliva, the "Polish" fleet was using civilian ships, re-armed to play the role of the warships. That's why this flag (used on civilian ships) appears everywhere. But if You go to the historical sources it clearly stays that this was civilian (or corsair) flag, not a navy one.

Navy one in that period included the eagle in crown, like the pictures I posted.

[admin]

Denmark Norge question

Denmark used one flag consistently - but we can add some of the norway flag as well. 
Please if you have any great references for danish - norway naval flags from 1700 to 1840 periods -please post in this topic

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, admin said:

Denmark Norge question

Denmark used one flag consistently - but we can add some of the norway flag as well. 
Please if you have any great references for danish - norway naval flags from 1700 to 1840 periods -please post in this topic

first dated norwegian flag, 20.may 1814

Also is it possible to have The square flags for trade ships? For Instance the edged flags of sweden, den/nor and russia were used on ships of war while a flag in the same design but just squared were used on trade ships

Edited October 1, 2018 by Guest

[William Livingston Alden]

35 minutes ago, admin said:

Denmark Norge question

Denmark used one flag consistently - but we can add some of the norway flag as well. 
Please if you have any great references for danish - norway naval flags from 1700 to 1840 periods -please post in this topic

As far as I know, they had no common navy flag before 1800.

 

 

 

Edited October 1, 2018 by William Livingston Alden
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