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[admin 49,123]

Hey Captains. 

Soon players will be able to purchase a DLC which will let them use a different but of course historical main battle ensign.

You can make a difference.
We need your suggestions on the following flags.

• Main Battle Flags/Ensigns  (definitily will be added within 2 months)
• Top mast rectangular ensigns (which most often copy the main battle ensign) (tentative)

Examples for USA could be

United States

Main battle flags

Perfect flag to for Jamaica hunting

 

For mast Ensigns

Come and get it (and of course dont give the ship banners)

 

We of course have the flags ideas together already for main nations, but maybe we missed something. 

 

Best suggestions will just consists of pictures and minimal text.

Something like that

• Nation name
• Picture or link to picture (or drawing)
• explanation why should this flag be considered.
   

Happy 4th of July

 

 

old picture from 2014

[Sir Lancelot Holland 406]

Will the Commodore's Broad pennant and Admiral's flag be included? Some indication of from which mast head such pennants flags and Battle Ensigns should be flown from would also be a nice touch too.

  

[Liq 8,297]

[admin 49,123]

only posts with flags paintings and descriptions are accepted.

[Rickard 518]

 

@admin what about flags/emblems and pendants for clans? and communication via flags pendants and emblems?

Edited July 4, 2018 by Rickard

[Havelock 1,156]

Flag of the Holy Roman Empire which i solely propose for historical reasons (it existed until 1806 so it fits the timeframe):

 

I know, i know, it should actually be a prussian flag... pls dont torture me like that and make it swedish or for everyone

[Vile Executioner 313]

@admin thank you so much! I literally just made a post this morning as suggestion for the US battle flag!

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard 488]

One of several privateer ensigns during the american revolutionary war, more varied and valuable examples can be found here: http://www.loeser.us/flags/revolution.html

I would like to see more rare privateer ensigns, trade companies and the like in addition to the main flags of the various countries.

 

Edited July 4, 2018 by Captain Jean-Luc Picard

[Aventador 400]

Is there a possibility that we could submit our own designs for the top mast (aka clan flags) and then possibly have a system where it would wait to be approved and then added to the game?

[Christendom 6,869]

Flag used by Perry to honor Captain James Lawrence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Hazard_Perry

[Hethwill 12,237]

Both flags can be used for a Portuguese roleplay.

 

This one being used since 1707 so pretty much covers the entire period until 1830 and being the Absolutist flag during the civil war.

The Jack for the Absolutists could also make use of red rim

Liberal cause - very much end of the Naval Action period

There's a listed blue rimmed jack for naval pilots during the Liberal Wars ( civil war )  but it conflicts with with eht Absolutist jack as both sides used them.

You can see the flags being used in the following paintings

 

It is of note that the Liberal cause still used the Kingdom colours, full white field, but under the Liberal cause standard. The picture below shows it very well.

The one above is a detail of the painting about the Battle of Cape S. Vincent. The one below it is battle in the Tagus river.

[Christendom 6,869]

The John Paul Jones flag given to him by the Dutch after he captured the Serapis. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Jones

[Sella 1,210]

 

My suggestions:

Some Greek flags that could be used as pirate flags or mast pennants:

Some drawings and paintings picturing Greek ships using some of the flags below:

 

Laskarina Bouboulina's flag:

 

Andreas Miaoulis' flag:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Miaoulis

 

The flag of the island of Psara: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psara

The flag of the island of Kastelorizo:

 

The flag of the island of Hydra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydra_(island)

 

The flag of the island of Spetses:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spetses

Edited September 24, 2018 by Sella22

[Sir Texas Sir 6,959]

1 hour ago, Vile Executioner said:

@admin thank you so much! I literally just made a post this morning as suggestion for the US battle flag!

Old USS INDEPENDENCE (CV 62) I was on her when this pic was taken.  We where the first combatant ship to get the honor in ages.  It's normally some tender or something that has the oldest active duty ship in the Navy.

[Sella 1,210]

Alternatives for Prussia. Branderburg

 

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[Wigermo 72]

French plain white ensign



^ Battle of martinique

And the plain white with the tricolor in the corner, used by ocean in le glorious first of june

 

[Christendom 6,869]

First US Navy Jack

 

https://gyazo.com/e49c5698170bd792e772274daced3939

[Sella 1,210]

Also i believe that the Venetian war flag is different than the one you guys have. @Fluffy Fishy is the expert on this

The war flag depicts the lion holding a sword. Something like this.

Compared to this:

[Sir Texas Sir 6,959]

Some more pirate but Barbary flags

If I ever returned pirate I would remake the "Salee Rovers" Which I think is the Flag of Commander above too.

Barbarossa's Flag

Problem with a lot of the Barbary flags is they are 1600 which was the age of Piracy time.  I would say we should keep the flags to a certain time line too.  Though a little out of it one way or the other wouldn't hurt to much I think.

[Banished Privateer 7,262]

Here:

This colorful flag was a unique Naval Ensign (or Jack) of the Polish Navy. Poland has had naval traditions since 1558 when the Polish King Sigismund August (Zygmund August) created the first Polish fleet under the command of Admiral Thomas Sierpinek.

In 1624, the first Polish dockyard was founded at Puck and on November 28, 1627, the Polish Navy, under Admiral Dickman, fought off the Swedish fleet at Oliwa, near Gdansk (Danzig) using this battle ensign.

 

Also merchant flags:

1783 — about 1864    So-called Polish merchant ensign. Used on ships of Cherson Trade Company 1783-1793 and on Congress Poland's vessels on the Vistula in the first half of the 19th century, under Russian protectorate:

 

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Duchy of Courland and Semigallia 1562-1791 (Ksiestwo Kurlandii i Semigalii)

In 1562, the "Livonian Order of the Brothers of the Sword" was secularized and the last Grand Master, Gotthardt Kettler became the Duke of Courland and Semigallia and the vassal of the Polish King. The Duchy benefited greatly from its relations with the Commonwealth, being an important outlet for Polish and Lithuanian exports. The Polish rule was benevolent, with little interference into the local affairs.

In the middle of the 1600s, the Duchy became a major mercantile European power with the formidable fleet and the colonial ambitions. It established a colony at St. Andrews Island at the Gambia River and on the island of Tobago in the Caribbean. Sweden, and later Russia showed an intense interest in the Duchy, and in 1795 Russia prevailed in the acquisition of it in the conniving way, when the last Duke, Peter von Biron signed off his rights to the Russian Empress Catherine the Great at the time of the last partition of Poland.

The third flag was the Polish flag intended for this territory, as it was a Polish-Lithuanian fief (vasal state), and not an independent country. This flag with its coat-of-arms, was for the Duchy of Livonia, but what the Poles were commonly calling simply "Inflanty." Of course, its formal name was the "Duchy of Livonia" in English, "Ksiestwo Inflanckie" in Polish, and "Herzogtum Livland" in German.

Courtland Merchant Flag 1650:

 

Courtland-Tobago Flag 1650:

Duchy of Livonia Flag:

[Thonys 1,383]

The dutch used hundreds of flags and therefore a very difficult nation 

also a VERY  interesting article about the blood flags used by pirates and barbary pirates late in time (a must read)

https://buccaneersreef.com/category/forum/sea-paintings/ 

 

LINK TO OTHER FLAGS http://fotw.fivestarflags.com/nl-indco.html#ro

but in general:

first state flag 

 

 

 the "Halve Maen" belonged to the Dutch East India Company (he was supposed to find a new route to East India), and his flag would have been a Dutch one. I've attached a picture of what historians think his ship might have looked like.
Jeroen van Leeuwen, 5 August 2010

 

  

 on the state jachts

 dutch republic flag

 voc

bataaf

se republic era

FLAG NR 70 THE RED BLOOD FLAG (war flag)

AND NR 73 AND NR 79

LINK TO OTHER FLAGS http://fotw.fivestarflags.com/nl-indco.html#ro

 

Battle flags :

(see also the link in the https://buccaneersreef.com/category/forum/sea-paintings/ )

 

the blood flag at the back (look also at the 5 th ship from the left  a yellow flag with a red lion and sword )

Yes ...this is DUTCH

all about the flag you need to know

 

Edited November 29, 2018 by Thonys

[Hethwill 12,237]

1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

Problem with a lot of the Barbary flags is they are 1600

Last record of Barbary pirate being in combat with the RN is from 1850. So they were in place already way well before NA scope start ( 1670's - 1700 ) and fairly beyond (1820's ).

Barbary states - morocco, algiers, tunis, etc, were fairly distinct with a fairly unique pack of flags.

some paintings

 

[SirAlatriste 406]

I have a huge panel of flags from the 1756 year. I wanted to take a picture of every flag but I have no time to do it now because of the exams, but I founded it in web. It is in spanish language. All courtesy to the Naval Museum of Madrid, Spain.

[SirAlatriste 406]

Another spanish flag.

[Fluffy Fishy 1,426]

On 7/4/2018 at 5:25 PM, Sella22 said:

Also i believe that the Venetian war flag is different than the one you guys have. @Fluffy Fishy is the expert on this

The war flag depicts the lion holding a sword. Something like this.

Compared to this:

 

The Venetian flag has many different aspects, all encompassing various stances and things that the lion is holding, the main 3 are the cross, the book and the sword, whilst its also quite common to see the Lion of St Mark holding a city too. The battle flag of Venice holds the sword, but when fighting pirates there is often the sword and the crucifix, while traders tend to use the book and the sword, meaning they can fight but they come to learn and trade. There is also significance to how the book is held, if the book is open the flag means its open to influence and discussion, where as if the book is closed and the lion is standing on it the flag means Venice is showing authority. The 6 tails to the flag are also significant, they represent the 6 original districts of Venice, Cannaregio, Castello, Dorsoduro, San Marco, San Polo and Santa Croce. There are a lot of combinations of many little betweens the different but the main 3 are:

I will try and find some more useful pictures when I have a bit more time, but I hope you are doing the artwork yourselves as best you can, creating your own artistic resources the majority of the Venetian flags online look a bit derpy, If you aren't please use the two above rather than that weird cgi style one it looks weird and out of place, especially in an age of sail game. Also please if you are going to model it let the tails flap properly, they look incredible.

Some Other Examples:

Here is a nice link showing some more flags of the republic:
http://www.bandieredeipopoli.com/veneto.htm

Edited July 5, 2018 by Fluffy Fishy