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10 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

When I was loading the cannons I thought this too or have the option for either.  I did notice that if you get behind a ship it will pen and kill crew, without destroying the rear armor, but if I"m that close I'll just use ball or grape normally.  The range on it is the worse part as it's useless past 200M

Also the sails only have FULl or none optoin.  You can click battle sails but it does nothing.  There should be some other options for sails cause it's a pain to stop or slow down the ship. If I'm creapping up on some one I should be able to give the ship partial sails to slow down it's speed if needed.

I have yet to test the ship yet (at work atm) does the ship have control perk? If not that could be another solution. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Capn Rocko said:

I have yet to test the ship yet (at work atm) does the ship have control perk? If not that could be another solution. 

 

I haven't checked it with any players yet, but it shouldn't cause it has the cannons on front.  The AI"s well they where AI's after all so anything within range keeps them in fight.  Though good thing to ask if they keep the 2lb's on.  

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3 minutes ago, Capt Aerobane said:

Hey Admin can you tell us roughly how much will it cost?

We don't know yet. 


 

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Xebec is the positive surprise of the day! I used this type back in the days of "Sea Dogs" as preferred ship.

Suppose the 'pirate rig refit' will affect this type of mediterranean sails?

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Alright I see the issue of latin sails being affected by jib sail upgrades has sufficiently been discussed already...

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25 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

One thing I like about Le Requin is his red sails, just imagine if we can have red sails in other ships... $$$

And i say that's the ugly part about the ship :D to have it on all ships would be just awful.

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1 hour ago, Wind said:

grape?

It can load neither grape nor chain shot as far as I know...

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35 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

One thing I like about Le Requin is his red sails, just imagine if we can have red sails in other ships... $$$

Would pay for red sails on my Constitution. 

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3 minutes ago, Sovereign said:

It can load neither grape nor chain shot as far as I know...

I would just get rid of them then. 

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An excellent ship to board !

In the beginning it was difficult for me to control the speed upwind.

It would be probably the best hunter and rageboarder if you could solve the issue of the determined defeder issue.

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12 minutes ago, Sovereign said:

It can load neither grape nor chain shot as far as I know...

swivel guns have very high crew damage but yes.. grape should be added to them.

We will add shallow status to Xebec next week and adjust other advanced shallow vessels to be on par with hercules and le requin if their weights are comparable.

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5 minutes ago, admin said:

swivel guns have very high crew damage but yes.. grape should be added to them.

We will add shallow status to Xebec next week and adjust other advanced shallow vessels to be on par with hercules and le requin if their weights are comparable.

I am not sure if xebec should have inbuild "control" like all the other ships without chaser. I know that the xebec has bow guns and therefore "control" is disabled but as banished pointed out they do no dmg to sails. Instead of buffing swivels just give her control.

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Xebecs are interesting and different ships, but I don't think there were any in the Caribbean. Crossing the Atlantic in a ship with so little freeboard would have been a harrowing experience, at best.

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Respecting the effort and creative energy, not the outcome.

This was a ship mostly used in Mediterranian and Red Sea area...I don`t know why we have it in the Caribbean.

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1 hour ago, Hugh Latham said:

Xebecs are interesting and different ships, but I don't think there were any in the Caribbean. Crossing the Atlantic in a ship with so little freeboard would have been a harrowing experience, at best.

That's why we'll be building our xebecs locally, although when it comes to Oceanic crossings, where there's a will, there's a way. The US Navy sailed a couple gunboats to Europe.

Xebecs were used in the Baltic and some California fishermen favored the lateen rig, so there's no reason they couldn't be used elsewhere. NA's Caribbean has long been a microcosm of Age of Sail warfare, rather than an exclusively New World setting.

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My first sailing impression/feedback

 

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Regarding that picture i was curious how she would handle while sailing straight downwind. The next picture shows her speed while sailing in autoskipper straight downwind (speed 8.7kn)

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I checked and yards are at max position. Testing now what will happen when i twist the yards to the other side resulted in a ship turning left and less speed.20180608180406_1.thumb.jpg.936eccecde026e96c0dca686fe005989.jpg

First conclusion is that yard position reduces speed when sail is pressed against the mast (more obvious reason sail force is broken). I like to add even autoskipper is confused with sailing straight downwind and switches yards from side to side.

Suggestions:

  1. give independent mast control for all 3 masts
  2. add battlesail front and mizzen mast (at full sail) main (furled) for maximum maneuverability
  3. The main mast yard should be on the other side ( I dont think that sail press against the masts has any effect ingame but it would change the odd look when wind is coming from starboard.
  4. And pls add WIP in battle tab to show people - ship is not final - and to make them stop ranting
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1 hour ago, Intrepido said:

Add chain too, just for improving the gameplay. And Im a historical nerd but chasers without chains... almost useless.

No thanks. Caliber is too small for chain. 

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3 hours ago, admin said:

We need to buff advanced 6th rates, hercules MUST NOT be the only king of shallows

You also need to fix the BR limits for shallow PB's.  Raising the Hercules to 100 BR will still allow 25 of them to enter many of the shallow PB's.

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1 hour ago, Hugh Latham said:

Xebecs are interesting and different ships, but I don't think there were any in the Caribbean. Crossing the Atlantic in a ship with so little freeboard would have been a harrowing experience, at best.

Considering that these Xebecs are equipped with shipboard sensors that can identify the number of life forms on board an enemy vessel, along with detailed info on it's hull integrity and sailing performance, an INS heading indicator that incorporates wind info, and radar equipped with friend-or-foe info, I imagine they have cryogenic tanks for long voyages like that.

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2 minutes ago, Juan Navarre said:

Considering that these Xebecs are equipped with shipboard sensors that can identify the number of life forms on board an enemy vessel, along with detailed info on it's hull integrity and sailing performance, an INS heading indicator that incorporates wind info, and radar equipped with friend-or-foe info, I imagine they have cryogenic tanks for long voyages like that.

You are on the wrong forum, please leave ;)

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2 hours ago, ElricTheTwo said:

You also need to fix the BR limits for shallow PB's.  Raising the Hercules to 100 BR will still allow 25 of them to enter many of the shallow PB's.

shallow portbattles can only be entered by ships of BR 80 or below (currently)

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1 hour ago, Hugh Latham said:

Xebecs are interesting and different ships, but I don't think there were any in the Caribbean. Crossing the Atlantic in a ship with so little freeboard would have been a harrowing experience, at best.

Respecting the effort and creative energy, not the outcome.

This was a ship mostly used in Mediterranian and Red Sea area...I don`t know why we have it in the Caribbean.

Apparently the Spanish San Sebastian crossed the Atlantic (with a square rig) to Cartagena in 1810 and then went to Lima through Cape Horn. The Americans also built 2 xebecs, Repulse and Champion in 1777 to defend Philadelphia. There are reports of Spanish xebecs in the Caribbean, and some have been built at Havana (Cayman, Nuestra Señora del Rosario).

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20 minutes ago, Barberouge said:

Apparently the Spanish San Sebastian crossed the Atlantic (with a square rig) to Cartagena in 1810 and then went to Lima through Cape Horn. The Americans also built 2 xebecs, Repulse and Champion in 1777 to defend Philadelphia. There are reports of Spanish xebecs in the Caribbean, and some have been built at Havana (Cayman, Nuestra Señora del Rosario).

I am not sure if we need any exotic ship, which was accidentally built(like in Philly), or somehow found their way to the New World, because of reasons unknown to us(Spain), in the game..That is my point :)

We have St. Pavel in game too, but are there any reports of her in Caribbean?

Feel me? ;)

 

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1 hour ago, Banished Privateer said:

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The last part seems to be crucial. In NA most of the ships suffer without chasers. Essex is one of the biggest pains in that matter. Ships like Lynx/Privateer even have gunports for stern cannons and they are empty!

Luckily we have detailed information on La Requin specifically: a whole book dedicated to the vessel..

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7 minutes ago, Fenris said:

I am not sure if we need any exotic ship, which was accidentally built(like in Philly), or somehow found their way to the New World, because of reasons unknown to us(Spain), in the game..That is my point :)

We have St. Pavel in game too, but are there any reports of her in Caribbean?

Feel me? ;)

 

like most of the ships we have ingame they never saw the caribbean.

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