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Ship blueprint data is incorrect, as seen in below screenshot, the Sabicu Log count is different then in the game, it was like this for several ships I checked were like this.

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12 minutes ago, Felix Victor said:

This is a rounding error which can't be rectified.

game consume less than it indicates in a lot of cases.

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@Felix Victor could you describe how the ship crafting resource quantities are calculated for each ship, frame and planking type? I'd like to that info on the wiki page. Perhaps something like a base cost plus a modifier based on planking or frame type? I would not list all possible combinations on the wiki, as I think this is better solved with an interactive tool like you have already made on your site. 

Cheers,

van Veen

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26 minutes ago, Felix Victor said:

Not a calculation, but contained in API data. It is roughly dependend on the ship mass. https://na-map.netlify.com/data/ships.json

Thank you for replying so quickly!

I might be a little bit stupid, but the link provided contains all ship stats, but not the crafting resources.

And then the question was how different wood types for frame and planking affect these quantities. 

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6 hours ago, Liberalism said:

Game API. You just need to dig deep enough.

It is not contained in API data. See discussion in this thread.

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Since everyone in this thread here has already dug deeply into the API, perhaps you folks can tell me how do I know which ships are craftable?

The rare ships I can tell, because they require a permit which is not in the admiralty shop (e.g. Constitution, Christian). 

But what about DLC (Rättvisan, Hercules,...) and special (Gun Boat, Yacht, ...) ships? According to ship-blueprints, they do not require a permit and there are crafting requirements. I mean, I could go through manually and de-select non-craftable ships. 

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@Felix Victor

Is there any way for you to find out which fort/tower is #1 or#2 and show it on each port map? It would be helpfull when deciding in which structure to invest first :)

 

Cheers,

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@Felix Victor Apologies if already mentioned. But your loot tables seem to be inaccurate (percentage chance of dropping wise) they state there is zero chance of rare book parts dropping from open world NPCs but I have had a fair few drop from them. Could it be the formatting perhaps? i.e the chance is less than 1% so the page just shows as 0

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1 hour ago, H982 FKL said:

your loot tables seem to be inaccurate

This is from API data. 0 means the lowest probability, not improbabie.

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3 hours ago, Serk said:

which fort/tower is #1 or#2

Will collect some in-game data here (if others than rediii also report) and try to match it with API data.

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52 minutes ago, Felix Victor said:

This is from API data. 0 means the lowest probability, not improbabie.

Maybe there are several types of loot tables. In one case 0 means the lowest probability. In another case 0 means something other :D

For example LootTable 2068 (this loot table for Small Elite Bots)

Chance Stack.Min

Stack

Max

 
0 4 6 12pd Obusier
0 4 6 18pd Obusier
0 4 6 24pd Obusier

I always got cannon when sink bot (4 times).
Another case is a sealed bottles (loot tables
604, 744, 602, 669, 603).

The chance to get Art of Steering by Rudder or Art of Cargo Distribution is almost impossible (0,05)

Id Name Chance Stack.Min Stack.Max  
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 A Treatise on Square Sails Trim
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 A Treatise on Rigging Handling
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 Service Historique de la Marine
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 A Treatise on Staysails Trim
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 Instructions aux Canonniers
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 The old Flag Officer
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 Expert Carpentry Handbook
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 The Complete Fencing Master
602 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 1 Treatise on Making Saltpeter
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 Means of Directing the Fire
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 L'Horizon Balistique
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 Sur le Canonnage a Bord
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 Table of Parts of Ships of War
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 Art of Steering by Rudder
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 Art of Cargo Distribution
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 The Water Book
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 The Fire Book
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 The Wind Book
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 The Ground Book
603 PortBattleLootTableModules 0.05 1 1 The Book of the Void
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 French Sail Cloth
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 500 1500 White Oak Log
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Greenheart Logs
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Swedish Carpenter
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Barbary Coast Canvas
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 500 1500 Live Oak Log
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 500 1500 Bermuda Cedar
604 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 500 1500 Teak Log
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 3 8 Gold Coast Ivory
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 3 8 Sevres Stained Glass
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 5 25 Diplu00F4mu00E9 d'Artillerie
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 3 8 Gold ingots
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 3 8 French perfume
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 3 8 Sevilla Muskets
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 3 8 Stolen Goods
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 3 8 Madagascar Jewels
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 5 25 Cartagena Tar
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 100 500 Copper Ingots
669 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 0.5 1 7 Labor Contracts
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Grietje van Dijk
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Spanish Square Sails
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Crooked Cedar
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Nassau Quartermaster
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Guacata Saltpeter
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 British Running Rigging
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 5 25 Royal Naval College Graduate
744 PortBattleLootTableCrnotes 1 3 8 Jutland Amber

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From how I read it there is a 5% chance to get ONE of the items with ID 603. There are 11 of those in that table. (1/11)*0.05 = 0.004545.... So the chance to get a specific book of that type in that loot-table would be about 0.5%.
 

ID744 has chance of 100% with 8 items so the chancce for a specific item would be 1/8=0.125=12.5% and so on....

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The map has received a lot of interest after the wipe which also means a lot of server traffic. I use netlify to host the site. I have never noticed it or they have changed their pricing model, half of the allowed bandwidth is already used. It will cost for above 100GB. So far I can use their (great) service for free.

I am now considering the options:

1. Hope for the best that the bandwidth threshold is never reached.

2. Try to reduce frequency or amount of data downloaded.

3. Look for another free hoster with higher bandwidth.

4. Try to collect money from users, maybe $20/month needed.

Preferred option is 1, obviously. Option 2 is also related the browser caching, one of the biggest IT mysteries (leading to outdated files). Option 3 might not work (do not know any comparable free hoster, and I need time to move there). Option 4 is my least preferred option as it require payment for a service that I consider should be free (and I would need some time to set it up).

Any thoughts?

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16 minutes ago, Felix Victor said:

The map has received a lot of interest after the wipe which also means a lot of server traffic. I use netlify to host the site. I have never noticed it or they have changed their pricing model, half of the allowed bandwidth is already used. It will cost for above 100GB. So far I can use their (great) service for free.

I am now considering the options:

1. Hope for the best that the bandwidth threshold is never reached.

2. Try to reduce frequency or amount of data downloaded.

3. Look for another free hoster with higher bandwidth.

4. Try to collect money from users, maybe $20/month needed.

Preferred option is 1, obviously. Option 2 is also related the browser caching, one of the biggest IT mysteries (leading to outdated files). Option 3 might not work (do not know any comparable free hoster, and I need time to move there). Option 4 is my least preferred option as it require payment for a service that I consider should be free (and I would need some time to set it up).

Any thoughts?

Free woud be best ofc. But i use this Tool on a Daily base  and iam more then Happy to support it financial if needed.

i woudnt try  reduce the Frequency, but rather pay for it - set up and Paypal account were we can pledge a monthly support.

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54 minutes ago, Liberalism said:

How about @Felix Victor you calculate 3 closest county capitals, is that not the rule for hostility missions? Or we can manually collect all the data needed to create the map of front lines.

It is not the direct line between capitals, at least not always. And a nearly correct information is in my opinion even worse than no information at all. See above for a moderators guessing about region shapes but nothing I could neither understand nor use.

The collecting exercise won't work. Too much manual intervention and too faulty.

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netlify.com has a new certificate. Firefox might have problems to get the new certificate. Workaround:

  1. Go to about:preferences#privacy
  2. Uncheck ''Query OCSP responder servers to confirm the current validity of certificates"
  3. Load the map
  4. Check ''Query OCSP responder servers to confirm the current validity of certificates"
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