Capn Rocko Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I am getting tired of being denied PvP battles because my BR is too low. The Prince is my favorite open world hunting ship, the only downside is it cannot attack 4th rates (including Indiaman) or higher. I understand that a 6th rate shouldn't be able to attack 25 line ships, but attacking 1 Wasa is completely different. Can we find some middle ground here? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I tried to tag a player wapen with two other players (frig and reno) in tag circle, while in my surprise.. BR too low.. luckily the wapen tagged me when my tag failed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 HAAA ..well there is something called fleets i believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Thonys said: HAAA ..well there is something called fleets i believe Your fleetships dont add to the tagging-BR value of your ship. Also.. #NoFleets (except traders) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolakhan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 What is the actual allowable numerical ratio to be able to attack?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Rocko Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Update: A bad screen shot, but we had 3 players (in 6th rates) inside the join circle. ROE must be changed. Edited September 11, 2018 by Capn Rocko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolakhan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 That doesn't tell me the actual numbers ratio which what I am looking for???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Rocko Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Kolakhan said: That doesn't tell me the actual numbers ratio which what I am looking for???? 150 BR vs. 625 BR Similar to a 5th rate trying to attack a 1st rate, which is very do-able Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Rocko Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Sorry I misread your post at first. The ratio appears to be 1 ship class above the ship you are sailing. For example, the biggest ship a 6th rate can attack is a 5th rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Capn Rocko said: Sorry I misread your post at first. The ratio appears to be 1 ship class above the ship you are sailing. For example, the biggest ship a 6th rate can attack is a 5th rate I dont think thats how it works; it used to be max 5x BR you can attack, but since they added the exponential curve in BR needed to attack bigger fleets I'm not sure anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Rocko Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 If I recall correctly, the restriction was added to prevent small ships from screening port battle fleets. If that is the sole purpose, then I certainly think there is room for adjustment here. Without clarification from the developers, it's hard to tell their true intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 For an individual ship it has to be within 100BR. So if you are a lone Snow/Prince/Brig, with a BR of 50, you can only tag up to 150BR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hodo said: For an individual ship it has to be within 100BR. So if you are a lone Snow/Prince/Brig, with a BR of 50, you can only tag up to 150BR. I could tag 2 surps vs my 1 before (280 v 140) and im pretty sure i could have tagged more, even a lone 1st rate 650 br. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lz3 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne Wildcat Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I tried to tag an indianman in my Mercury, wasn't able to. Also would be nice if trade ships could counter tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Rocko Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Update: Prince/Snow cannot attack Endymion. It is worse than I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolakhan Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) I appreciate all the input but it seems we do not yet have a definitive answer. I don't think it has anything to do with class vs class. There has to be a set numerical ratio so that it would apply to 1 ship vs 1 ship or any number ships vs any number of ships. I have heard 1-3 or 1-4 or 1-5. Another way to say that is to attack something you need AT LEAST 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/5 of their BR number. The answer above about being "within 100 BR" would certainly simplify any calculating you would have to do and that would be a great answer if true. Wish a Dev would see this and give a correct answer. Edited November 17, 2017 by Kolakhan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachy Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) So, instead of two or more ships needed to grief a 4th rate you want it to be one? I am completely opposed to this notion. 6th rates are already abused. If the 4th rate wants to waste his time he can tag you. I'm not your content Also, snows are worthless in amount of pvp marks for time invested in killing them. Until they give the same marks for time invested as say a frigate or another 4th rate, I don't think they should be able to attack anything larger than a 5th rate. Edited November 20, 2017 by Malachy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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