Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) IMPORTANT: 16 / 16 teams registered, Registration is CLOSED ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Second Naval Action 3 VS 3 Tournament~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Applications and preliminary Rulesetting~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Groups composition & Definite Rules~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Group Stage & Resultssheet~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Based on feedback from this poll, I decided to already open up the applications for an upcoming tournament. On that thread, already 32 players voted that they would be interested in participating in a playermade tournament - that's over 10 teams already. The tournament is going to be 3vs3, and teams matched vs each other will have to communicate and agree on a date and place where they have their battles. Much more detailed information about how it works you can find below How to apply for the tournament List your Group name, the 3 main captains names (both ingame and forum if they got a forum account), aswell as your nation, and up to 5 reserve players (in case the main captains can't make it to a battle for whatever reason). Would also be nice to get a "battle cry" from each participating group. Example: [OCEAN], Danmark Norge Player 1: Tommy Shelby @TommyShelby Player 2: SeaWolf @SeaWolf_ Player 3: Silfarion @Silfarion Reserves: SeaHyena @Sureshot; Ellis @EllisDemast us if you can Note: Players don't have to be from the same nation to form a team - But if they are from different nations, the battles they are participating in will have to be based on outlaw battles. That means that I will need some pirates willing to help creating outlaw battles, so that ALL battle participants can join at the same time. Edited October 20, 2017 by Liq 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Basic information on the tournament - and to be discussed rules The layout for this tournament is 3v3 Each team will have to spread their ships to 500 BR - This means all 3 ships of one team can have a max. combined BR of 500, see the community made BR list below Tournament will have a group stage and a final knockout stage - Groupstage will consist of 4 teams in one group, of which the best 2 will qualify for the knockout phase. In the groupstage, every team will fight every team once. Entry fee of 500k per team - Prize money will be split on rank 1st, 2nd and 3rd place of the endresults (50 - 30 - 20) Once the group stage goes live, the teams will be given a certain amount of time to fulfill their groupstage battles. How long this stage will last wil totally depend on how many teams are entering. Groups for the group stage are going to be created using a RNG site Each battle will have to have at least one referee aka. judge in them Battle length is max. 60 minutes Win in group stage = 3 points A win can be achieved by the follwing ways: Be the first to sink all enemy ships (within the 60 minutes battle length) If after 60 minutes there are still ships alive on both sides, the side with 1.5x the BR is going to take the win Draw in group stage = 1 point A draw can be achieved by the following ways: If after 60 minutes there are still ships alive on both sides, but the difference between the two teams is not equal or greater than a factor of 1.5, the battle will count as a draw Loss in group stage = 0 points If, after all battles in the group stage are done, some teams have the same amount of points, the second deciding factor will be how much BR they lost themselves overall in all battles. (The team with the lower BR lost will logically come first.) If this still doesnt decide the winner, a duel between each groups leader in a ship they both agree on to use will decide. Not appearing to an arranged battle will result in an automatical loss - The enemy team will be granted a victory (3 points) and full BR sunk. If the teams battling each other are from the same nation, they will have to join an outlaw battle in order to fight each other - Sadly this is the only possibility. Tagging rules: In order for the battles to be fair from beginning, I think there needs to be a clear tagging rule - This is how I would imagine it to look like: If the teams are positionned like that on the initial tag, no team will have a wind advantage and it will be fair from beginning. Same goes for when we have to make use of outlaw battles (if the teams are from the same nation or a team has members from different nations) - Both teams have to line up as shown above around an ongoing outalw battle and all join on command. Referees / Judges and their availability: Once the groups are decided by RNG, you will have to set a date and place with each other team in your group. In order for battles to count, there needs to be at least one referee / judge inside the battle. You will be given approximately 2 weeks to host all your groupstage battles - Plenty of time Liquicity @Liq - Workdays: 17:30 - 21.00 Servertime ; Weekend: Roughly 11:00 - 00:00 Servertime Cornelis Tromp @Cornelis Tromp - Christendom @Christendom - Edited October 15, 2017 by Liq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Registered teams: [HRE 1], Sverige Player 1: Rediii @rediii Player 2: Palatinose @Palatinose Player 3: Havelock @Havelock Reserves:Battle Cry [ALOHA], Pirates Player 1: Banished Privateer @Peter Goldman Player 2: EliteDelta @EliteDelta Player 3: Vile Executioner @Vile Executioner Reserves: Rahzer @rahzor, Jacob T Warhog @Jacob ElstonWelcome to Hawaii [EXILE], Pirates Player 1: HachiRoku @HachiRoku Player 2: Lord Bomgordel @Lord Bomgordel Player 3: Otto Kohl @Otto Kohl Reserves: Donnerschock @DonnerschockTARN YA FAKING RETARD ! [X], Sverige Player 1: Yordi @? Player 2: Elite92 @elite92 Player 3: Tony @tonyxyx Reserves: CaptainFindus @?Strength and Honor! [VLTRA], Spain Player 1: Jorge @Jorge Player 2: CeltiberoJuanjo @Celtiberojuanjo Player 3: Durruti @? Reserves: Emkay @emkay, Dshrio @dShiroJajajajajajaja... [RUBLI], Pirates Player 1: dron441 @dron441 Player 2: Gamover @Gamover Player 3: Moscalb @Moscalb Reserves: dumpert @dumpertBattle Cry [PoDW], Pirates + Sverige Player 1: Ram Dinark @Imperator1 Player 2: Karl Eversten @KarJIyxa Player 3: Jon Snow lets go @Jon Snow lets go Reserves: Dwayne Everett @Дуэйн ЭверетKeep calm and kill them all [DC+], Sverige Player 1: GhastlyGhost @GhastlyGhost Player 2: Vazco @vazco Player 3: Mikocen @Mikocen Reserves:Less talking, more drinking! [CABAL], Sverige Player 1: Bout bij Nacht @Knobby Player 2: Elias @? Player 3: Apina kin @? Reserves:Battle Cry [OCEAN 1], Danmark Norge Player 1: Tommy Shelby @TommyShelby Player 2: SeaWolf @SeaWolf_ Player 3: SeaHyena @Sureshot Reserves:We're the good ones [OCEAN 2], Danmark Norge + Sverige Player 1: Silfarion @Silfarion Player 2: Tomms123 @Tomms123 Player 3: Liquicity @Liq Reserves: Snoopy @SnoopyWe're the shitty ones [DNP], Danmark Norge Player 1: McKnight @? Player 2: 0TimeLefT @0timeleft Player 3: Lars Kjaer @Bearwall Reserves:Battle Cry [ALOHA 2], Pirates Player 1: Malachy Karrde @Malachy Player 2: Wy @? Player 3: Draconis @? Reserves: Shrouded Recluse @ShroudedRecluseBattle Cry [HRE 2], Sverige Player 1: therealStyles @Styles Player 2: Ser Sven Svensson @? Player 3: Ser Abram Svensson @Abram Svensson Reserves: troody @troodyI thought we do PVE [HRE 3], SverigePlayer 1: Pit Pinsel @kaayoPlayer 2: Pirat165 @?Player 3: sveno @sveno Reserves: MasterANDCommander @masterANDcommanderWe are the Swerg, resistance is futile! [EdR (1)]Player 1: dizzwho @?Player 2: bwa bwandais @Bwa BwandaisPlayer 3: fofo @?Reserves: Visca @, Kierrip @PIerrick de BadasBattleCry Edited October 19, 2017 by Liq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Community made BattleRating list: Lynx - 20 Cutter - 25 Privateer - 30 Pickle - 40 Brig - 50 Prince de Neufchatel - 50 Snow - 60 Navy Brig - 70 Rattlesnake Heavy - 80 Mercury - 80 Niagara - 90 Cerberus - 100 Renommee - 110 Surprise - 140 Hermione - 160 Frigate - 170 Santa Cecilia - 170 Belle Poule - 180 Pirate Frigate - 190 Essex - 190 Trincomalee - 200 Endymion - 210 Indefatigable - 220 Constitution - 250 Ingermanland - 260 Wappen von Hamburg - 260 Agamemnon - 270 Wasa - 320 3rd Rate - 380 Bellona - 400 St. Pavel - 450 Bucentaure - 470 Edited October 16, 2017 by Liq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Lisa Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 @Liq Do the players have to be from the same nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) [ALOHA], Pirates Player 1: Banished Privateer @Peter Goldman Player 2: EliteDelta @EliteDelta Player 3: Vile Executioner @Vile Executioner Reserves: Rahzor @rahzor, Jacob T Warhog @Jacob Elston Welcome to Hawaii Edited October 11, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 @Liq Are you allowing a clan to field multiple teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jon Snow lets go said: @Liq Do the players have to be from the same nation? No - but if they are, we will have to make use of outlaw battles, as in all participants of a battle join an already ongoing outlaw battle, so that they all can join in at the same time - rather than some having to rejoin manually and potentially screw up the spawn. Same goes for when the teams matched against each other are from the same nation - ONLY possibility is to make use of outlaw battles. But I think it's important that ALL battle participants join in at the same time - I will update the second post with how I imagine the tag for battles to look like soon. 3 minutes ago, EliteDelta said: @Liq Are you allowing a clan to field multiple teams? Yes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I would like to volunteer for judge/referee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HachiRoku Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I'd love too but I can only really play on sunday :(( How often does a clan need to battle a week you think? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Cornelis Tromp said: I would like to volunteer for judge/referee. Roger - Are you able to record battles and / or livestream them? 11 minutes ago, HachiRoku said: I'd love too but I can only really play on sunday :(( How often does a clan need to battle a week you think? In the group stage (groups consist of 4 teams each, of which the best 2 will qualify to the knockout stage) each team will battle each team once - which means you will have 3 battles. For now I'm thinking to set the group stage to about 2 weeks, should provide plenty of time for every team to do their battles. Once the groups are decided (by RNG), you will have to contact the other teams in your group and agree on a battle date (and place). Remember that in every official battle there needs to be at least one referee / judge in order for it to count. Later I will update the second post with a timetable to when judges are available - Personally I'm working fulltime and therefore on workdays can only be online from about 17.30 to 21.00 servertime - However on the weekends I am mostly available. You could also just do all your battles on the weekends, given your opponents agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) @Everyone in this thread, please provide some feedback on the BattleRating list I created and suggest changes. Edit: Also, personally I feel like repairs should not be limited for this. What do you think? Edited October 11, 2017 by Liq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qw569😳 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Liq said: Community made BattleRating list: Lynx - 20 Cutter - 25 30 Privateer - 30 Pickle - 40 Brig - 50 Prince de Neufchatel - 50 Snow - 60 Navy Brig - 70 Rattlesnake Heavy - 80 70 Sorry Liq i'm too lazy today to check your list. But i give you list from API. Edited October 11, 2017 by qw569 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, qw569 said: Sorry Liq i'm too lazy today to check your list. But i give you list from API. Thanks - I got the official list already - http://www.navalactionwiki.com/index.php?title=Ships But we thought some changes had to be made, because the balancing didnt seem right - Example L'Hermione same BR as surprise, when she's better at everything - or Wasa same BR as Constitution, when it's much more tough in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qw569😳 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Liq said: But we thought some changes had to be made, because the balancing didnt seem right - Example L'Hermione same BR as surprise, when she's better at everything - or Wasa same BR as Constitution, when it's much more tough in general If someone thinks that Wasa is better than Constitution, then he will take Wasa. Or If someone thinks that Constitution is better than Wasa, then he will take Constitution. So i don't see problem. Edited October 11, 2017 by qw569 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Edited. Edited October 11, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, qw569 said: If someone thinks that Wasa is better than Constitution, then he will take Wasa. Or If someone thinks that Constitution is better than Wasa, then he will take Constitution. So i don't see problem. The issue is that the Wasa has the guns of a bellona, but the same battle rating as the conni. It just isn't balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Liq said: Agamemnon - 240 (Increase to 260 or 270) My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Liq said: Roger - Are you able to record battles and / or livestream them?. I could arrange that. My system should be able to handle it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatTimo Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Liq said: Registered teams: , Svergie Player 1: Rediii @rediii Player 2: Palatinose @Palatinose Player 3: Havelock @Havelock Reserves: Battle Cry [ALOHA], Pirates Player 1: Banished Privateer @Peter Goldman Player 2: EliteDelta @EliteDelta Player 3: Vile Executioner @Vile Executioner Reserves: Rahzer @rahzor, Jacob T Warhog @Jacob ElstonWelcome to Hawaii [EXILE], Pirates Player 1: HachiRoku @HachiRoku Player 2: Lord Bomgordel @Lord Bomgordel Player 3: Otto Kohl @Otto Kohl Reserves: Donnerschock @DonnerschockTARN YA FAKING RETARD ! I would love to play with 2 others , i got the whole next week free. Allthough.. dont think anyone would want to play with me XD. And i dont have ship. So sadly enough i cant play :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 throw me in as a streamer / moderator of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Liq said: @Everyone in this thread, please provide some feedback on the BattleRating list I created and suggest changes. Edit: Also, personally I feel like repairs should not be limited for this. What do you think? In regards to practical implication of restriction I think it will be difficult to prevent too many repairs.. But since the battles only last for 60 mins I think that some restrictions should be in place.. 1 repair of each for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palatinose Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Honestly I would think about not allowing Wasas at all. This ship just plays in its own league. Just a thought. Edit: Scratch that, should be fine with adjusted BR. Edited October 12, 2017 by Palatinose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Liq said: Roger - Are you able to record battles and / or livestream them? I'm able to do both. I can do midday - evenings US time, which would be around 19:00 ish and later GMT. Weekends whenever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Lisa Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 looking for team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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