admin Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Important update We won't accept long lists of ships. We want YOU to make a choice. we want You do decide which ship you want. Lists will be ignored unless we find something very very special there. Please if you are interested in a certain ship getting into a game. Post that ship alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterbloodvessel Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Queen Anne's Revenge Blackbeards ship. Yarr... Buster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/12919-wip-leeuwenhorstedam-56-gun-dutch-sol-1742/ Edited September 5, 2017 by pietjenoob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Prins Maurits, 76 guns, 1783, http://i.imgur.com/Mi1c8bh.png, http://i.imgur.com/6z5rTYT.png 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Chattam, 80 guns, 1799, http://i.imgur.com/Cj059jS.png 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Heldin, 32 guns, 1796, http://i.imgur.com/T99Be1g.png 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 't Hof van St. Janskerke, 36 guns, 1733, http://i.imgur.com/8e8skWa.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Jason, 36 guns, 1772, http://i.imgur.com/ZhvLUK8.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Dortrecht, 58 guns, 1739, http://i.imgur.com/B2QIg1D.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Wreker, 80 guns, 1797, http://i.imgur.com/zHu4L8F.png, http://i.imgur.com/IteOKh6.png 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Washington, 76 guns, 1795, http://i.imgur.com/eA9nmEt.png, http://imgur.com/g4Hmoai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Admiraal de Ruyter Hull design of the Wreker-class ships http://i.imgur.com/zHu4L8F.png, http://i.imgur.com/IteOKh6.png, Bow and stern http://imgur.com/GIaj3fV, http://imgur.com/GyO9req, http://imgur.com/kzonf70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Stadt en Lande, 72 guns, 1798, http://i.imgur.com/FP0Wsdu.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietjenoob Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Intrepido said: Then, considering some guys proposed several ships in the same pòst or several posts with only one ship, without choosing his final proposal, the 90% of this thread do not match with the requirements demanded. reason why i do now a selection of ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 We might need a new thread.. This is getting a bit messy since the instructions weren't clear at first. Or at least some serious moderation and cleaning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegfried Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I repeat my selection in a more clear post. Montañes, spanish ship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Montañés_(1794) In spanish, but with more data: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montañés_(1794) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptiste Gallouédec Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 -La Vestale (hms Flora or Flore dite américaine) 30 guns 9lb frigate -Russian 50guns heavy frigate Saint Nicolas -3rd rate téméraire class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vazco Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hemmema, as it's a galley that can be powered by sails:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemmema If you don't want to mess up with mechanics, I would suggest 7 Provincien then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Fox Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 As a fan of the smaller ships this is my pick Enterprise is known as the third USS Enterprise (1799). It was built by Henry Spence at Baltimore, MD, in 1799. This schooner was also called "the Lucky Little Enterprise”, a 125 ton brig. USS Enterprise was changed, repaired and rebilt many times during its career between 1799 and 1823. It changed from a 12-gun schooner to a 14-gun topsail schooner and eventually to a 16-gun brig. USS Enterprise was commanded by many famous officers in the US Naval history and won many victories at various sites. To name a few, John Shaw (the Quasi-War with France), Andrew Sterett (the First Barbary War), and Stephen Decatur, Jr. (burning frigate Philadelphia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Fox Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Also (and I know this isn't a battle ship) how about a fishing ship? A whaler? Something you could take to unmarked hotspots to pick up big money! Bullsharks and manta Ray's would be common catches and whales rare but BIG money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Horatio Hornblower Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 We will never have good trafalgars without some french or spanish third rates. So why not. I support the idea of the spanish third rate Montañes, which took part in Trafalgar and survived. About all those dutch models, most of them are quite ugly. The stern decoration are meh. Also most of the prizes the british took from the dutch werent in active service a long time because their shipbuilding was trash in comparison with most nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptiste Gallouédec Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hms Wilhelmina (1798) : 32 gun Batavian frigate but the armament is quite similar to the Spanish Diana it seems. I still hope the Diana will come in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Fishy Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) I thought I might look at the ideas and potential additions from the venetian list of Venetian ships and While this isn't going to be a list of suggestions, this is a little warning to the devs a little like one of my previous posts on this thread just as a caution when looking at potential Venetian ships and the possibilities to model them accurately enough to put them in the game. There is quite a bit of dificult with the records of venetian ships and this mostly comes from the prominence of the Venetians using models as ther main reference in construction much later than the likes of the Atlantic nations, this is almost always the case until various reforms undertaken in the mid to late 18th century by Venetians who studied shipbuilding in England and the Netherlands and until the 1770s it was really quite uncommon for ships to be planned out in the same fashion of western and northern Europe. Generally speaking Venetian ships were built using two references, The shipwright would build a model, and draw a picture, similar to concept drawings we see with modern architecture depending on where the shipwright studied would generally determine how extensive the concept drawing was and how complex/if they would include contours to show the shape of the hull so as to complement the models being used, you can see this in a respect by the post made by Leboiteux on the San Michael Arcangelo, however plans were usually more extensive when included with the Venetian 1st rates. This source issue adds to the other issue I mentioned earlier in the thread, the problem of the single hull construction. As a list of visual sources as far as I am aware of broken down by main ratings of the Venetian navy: 1st Rate: Giove Fulminante (62 guns, 1667); Both the model and plans are lost, although some paintings exist. San Lorenzo Zustinian (70 guns, 1691); Some surviving drawings, a modern reconstruction, model some paintings from the Morean wars exist. Corona (74 guns, 1711); No plans, no model, no paintings. Leon Trionfante (70 guns 1716); Many plans drawings and paintings, no model. San Carlo Borromeo (66 guns, 1750), numerous plans exist alongside a model (I beleive the model is housed in the Heeresgeschichtliches Museum) "1780"/La Harpe (70/74, 1797 Completed by France, Double hulled); extensive plans, no model, a picture of her as a prison ship. 2nd Rate: Drago Volante (48 guns, 1674); No plans, No pictures, possible model housed in Boston Art Museum San Marco Grande (56 guns, 1684); no model, no plans, no painting Sant Andrea (60 guns, 1685); no plans, no model, no paintings. Fede Guerriera (60 guns, 1693); no model, no plans, no paintings. San Spiridion (58 guns,1717); No plans, some drawings, no paintings. Sant Andrea II (40/56 guns, 1724 Fregata Grossa); possible drawings, possible paintings, no plans no model. San Michiel Arcangelo (40/56 guns, 1749 Fregata Grossa); Nice drawings, basic plans, no model, no paintings. Speranza (40/58 guns, 1757 Fregata Grossa); Basic drawings, no model, some paintings, no plans. Vigilanza (40/56 guns, 1766 Fregata Grossa); Possible plans (unconfirmed), no model, no plans, possible paintings. Fama (66 guns, 1784 Fregata Grossa, Double hulled); extensive plans, extensive drawings, a model situated in the Heeresgeschichtliches Museum, some great paintings too. 3rd Rate: Madonna Della Salute (44 guns, 1675); no plans, no model, no paintings. Sant Andtonio da Padova (44 guns, 1684); no plans, no model, no paintings. Monton d'Oro (24 guns, 1688); Basic Drawings, no plans, no model, no paintings. Scudo Delle Fede; (52 guns, 1715) no plans, no model, no paintings. Costanza II (28 guns, 1757): Basic drawings, no plans, no model. Palma (38 guns, 1784, Double hulled) : No Drawings, no model but there are likely plans out there in France due to their capture, Medusa and Bellona saw service under the french, medusa being renamed Leoben and Bellona being captured again by the British in 1811 becoming HMS Dover. Pallade (24 guns, 1786, Double Hulled); Good plans, no model, no drawings, no paintings. Cerere (32 guns, 1794, Double Hulled); Likely has plans out there, she saw french service under the name Mantoue, no paintings, no model. "44 Cannoni"/Muiron (44 guns 1797 completed by France, Double Hulled). Good plans, Great model, some nice paintings too. While this is a fairly extensive list this is just from my long time trying to match up ships to drawings and doing a fair amount of research into the Venetian navy, there are also a lot of other unnamed craft out there, some named some not but its a lot like wading through treacle thanks to the difficulty posed by the destructive nature of Napoleon's looting combined with the methods used in Venetian naval design. Despite the lack of visual evidence there are good records on the dimensions of the ships, with a very rough silhouette drawing in a similar way to the ww2 identification charts but in colour, these are housed in the Venetian Archives. Edited September 6, 2017 by Fluffy Fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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