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2 minutes ago, Mascarino said:

And yet, your "duo" only uses ships with all port bonus maxed and best modules money can buy. 

I think his point is that a Solo player doesn't mean they can't buy stuff. 

What's wrong with a solo player buying from a player selling a ship made off the backs of multiple people?

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2 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

 

What's wrong with a solo player buying from a player selling a ship made off the backs of multiple people?

He's just jealous because even with the best stuff available to him he would still lose to dron.

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1 minute ago, Immersive Ganking said:

He's just jealous because even with the best stuff available to him he would still lose to dron.

No, I'm just saying they can stop throwing sand to our eyes, this game is only for big groups with good logistics. Solo player will struggle alot. 

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18 minutes ago, Mascarino said:

And yet, your "duo" only uses ships with all port bonus maxed and best modules money can buy. 

Sure.  How we get it all? Easy. I ganked British fir/fir trinc with my Hercules. On this trinc with Moscalb fir/crew space belle we went to danmark. Near La Mona we capted purple connie with full bonuses and after that went to dutch. There we capter 3 purple wasas with Naval Clocks and good bonuses in one day. Its all way from medium guns herk to best ships with best upgrades. I turn herk with medium guns to wasa with naval clock and long guns for 5 hours. 2 players. 5 hours. 2 shit free ships and 10 noobs on our way.  No craft. Only pvp.   Not fair to say that game doesn't let  solo players have best of the best. 

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36 minutes ago, dron44I said:

Sure.  How we get it all? Easy. I ganked British fir/fir trinc with my Hercules. On this trinc with Moscalb fir/crew space belle we went to danmark. Near La Mona we capted purple connie with full bonuses and after that went to dutch. There we capter 3 purple wasas with Naval Clocks and good bonuses in one day. Its all way from medium guns herk to best ships with best upgrades. I turn herk with medium guns to wasa with naval clock and long guns for 5 hours. 2 players. 5 hours. 2 shit free ships and 10 noobs on our way.  No craft. Only pvp.   Not fair to say that game doesn't let  solo players have best of the best. 

 We are talking about new players that want to start playing solo or about 2 players that play this game for 3 years of alpha stage? If it's the latter, I agree with you.

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3 hours ago, dron44I said:

Cmon... You dont need craft 24/7 to have long guns and good upgrades. You just need Hercules or Pandora with medium guns and 1 week with 2-3 hours per day + 150 russian noobs west of tumbado. Or dutch in les cayes.  After 1 week you will have so many good ships /CM/Upgrades abd dubs... I didn't craft anything. Moscalb had to craft only 1 ship. All what we have start with medium guns Hercules. NA are friendly for solo players with good skills now more then 2 years ago I think. 2 years ago you must run from 25 ships after each battle. Now you can easy find some fun for solo/duo/small group. And finally take this f*c*ing books in LT. 

Sorry dron. The battle I lost yesterday has put me into a bit of a naval action depression. I uninstall the game today, call it shit, blame the devs for breaking game and then I will install and play again tomorrow.

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4 hours ago, Mascarino said:

 We are talking about new players that want to start playing solo or about 2 players that play this game for 3 years of alpha stage? If it's the latter, I agree with you.

Sure. Solo new player never have all so fast. But @Reverse showed all on the stream how new player can farm fast. 12k reals for cerberus+ 1 hour in patrol zone = 6 CM. 6 CM= 450k reals= trincomale with port bonuses. 1 hour = good frigate. It was impossible 2 years ago, but now it's.  If new player want he can. If he live in information vacuum he never find  ship better then npc frigate. 

When I start play I was farming 1 week for trincomalee. Now it's 1 hour + time to build outpost in freetown. 

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13 hours ago, dron44I said:

Sure. Solo new player never have all so fast. But @Reverse showed all on the stream how new player can farm fast. 12k reals for cerberus+ 1 hour in patrol zone = 6 CM. 6 CM= 450k reals= trincomale with port bonuses. 1 hour = good frigate. It was impossible 2 years ago, but now it's.  If new player want he can. If he live in information vacuum he never find  ship better then npc frigate. 

When I start play I was farming 1 week for trincomalee. Now it's 1 hour + time to build outpost in freetown. 

Wait? Reverse is a new player? You know that the devs nor you or I hmcan judge how difficult it is for a new player. If I wanted to I could probably get max rank and most of the mods in 24 hours game time yes. That doesn't mean a new player can do it in simular time. 

Back in 2016 I leveled Bill Kerman. It took me 18 steam ingame hours or so. At this time new players said it was taking them 100+ hours to do the same. This is 5 times faster. 

You, the devs and myself have no idea how new players experience the game. Our personal experience is irrelevant. I read reviews and it all seems overwhelming for them. When we were newbs the game was very simple. Sure max rank in 2016 took more time than even now with 400+ hours minimum for newb but there was only one thing to grind too. Rank. Now we have ports, Buildings, ship slots, books, cm, reals and victory marks. Everything is so much. The ui is more complex than alpha ui. Ui should be simple and give you max information on first sight. 

Newbs have no idea where to begin so don't pretend we have any idea. 

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I wasn't going to post it (at least not in this thread), as its not too spectacular, but since @King of Crowns actually posted the second battle of his "war" with pirates, calling it the first battle, I thought I should post this to jog his memory. This was the 'first' battle of his war, fought less than an hour before the battle he posted:

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This was the Trinco we sunk:

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Ouch....I almost feel bad for the guy....almost.  That was a nice Trinc.

Also it should be noted that KoC's Pavel was a purple elite drop. RIP

Also RIP my cag/fir USS United States, she will not be missed, (but I probably could have saved it if I hadn't fatfingered 5/2 instead of 5/1 in the battle that KoC posted). 

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Port Battle for Rio Seco:
ATTACKERS: Pirates
DEFENDERS: United States
OUTCOME: Pirates Win

Despite overwhelming numbers and two nations screening against us, the Pirates managed to get in and win the battle. So satisfying to watch the US and Dutch fail at screening.

Much of the battle was spent with the fleets kiting around each other. Props to the US for making a pretty line (and once again proving how useless a line is against an enemy who intends to counter it with a brawl). When the fighting happened, their line fell apart and we managed to sink their Bellona. More kiting ensued, but the final few minutes were spent in a close-quarters brawl, where we sank a Wasa. Tip of the hat to our brave captains who contested the circles until reinforcements arrived to sink the enemy there.

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And a nice little fight after the battle. Screenshot is a little confusing, but I was in the Wasa, CheekyBreeky in the Herc (without hull reps). We sank the Rat and capped the Trinc. It had naval clock on it so I took it home. The old Wasa made it home safely too. 

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#outsmartthezerg #creatingcontent #failedscreeningattempt

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I am strugglin to see "great battle results , may be we can change topic name to "battle results"? 

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On 7/12/2019 at 9:28 PM, dron44I said:

Sure. Solo new player never have all so fast. But @Reverse showed all on the stream how new player can farm fast. 12k reals for cerberus+ 1 hour in patrol zone = 6 CM. 6 CM= 450k reals= trincomale with port bonuses. 1 hour = good frigate. It was impossible 2 years ago, but now it's.  If new player want he can. If he live in information vacuum he never find  ship better then npc frigate. 

When I start play I was farming 1 week for trincomalee. Now it's 1 hour + time to build outpost in freetown. 

This req intimate knowledge of the economics of the game, the patrolzones and of PvP combat. New players won't have this. 

Besides - where's the fun going to a patrolzone in a storebought cerb, when u know u're coming up against OP port bonus playercrafted ships? - u can't even be sure to make 5k damage before u're sunk, especially if u're not russian since the russians basically just pile in on every close (BR vs BR) battle in the Nassau zone - effectively the only zone where a cerb would be able to stand its own in the current damagemodel.

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4 minutes ago, Koveras said:

This req intimate knowledge of the economics of the game, the patrolzones and of PvP combat. New players won't have this. 

Besides - where's the fun going to a patrolzone in a storebought cerb, when u know u're coming up against OP port bonus playercrafted ships? - u can't even be sure to make 5k damage before u're sunk, especially if u're not russian since the russians basically just pile in on every close (BR vs BR) battle in the Nassau zone - effectively the only zone where a cerb would be able to stand its own in the current damagemodel.

Answer is simple. Just go Russia.

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11 minutes ago, Koveras said:

This req intimate knowledge of the economics of the game, the patrolzones and of PvP combat. New players won't have this. 

Besides - where's the fun going to a patrolzone in a storebought cerb, when u know u're coming up against OP port bonus playercrafted ships? - u can't even be sure to make 5k damage before u're sunk, especially if u're not russian since the russians basically just pile in on every close (BR vs BR) battle in the Nassau zone - effectively the only zone where a cerb would be able to stand its own in the current damagemodel.


much better to sit on the forum. Here you can accurately fill a lot of damage.
I took the ship, went into the zone, made a couple of shots and drowned - that’s 20k damage to you.
I spent 30k reals. Earn 500k in 40 minutes

 

Oks, more than 40 min, but it was very fun(some problem with this stream, sorry fo that):

 

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1 minute ago, Captain Reverse said:

 


much better to sit on the forum. Here you can accurately fill a lot of damage.
I took the ship, went into the zone, made a couple of shots and drowned - that’s 20k damage to you.
I spent 30k reals. Earn 500k in 40 minutes

Well now,  I actually play with Koveras and know he do go to the PZ. We go together to both Nassau and Deadman. We get oure damage and from time to time a decent battle where we only have to fight 2 vs 5-6 Russians. Most time it is 2 vs 6-8 and ofc for some reason other Nations often join Russia. But neither he ore I complain abouth it, as we neither complained when you took 2 rate to kill us in the Aves PZ.

He and I will easy survive in this game, but to compare top player achivement and say new guys easy can do it to. Thats plain wrong.

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Just now, Routan said:

Well now,  I actually play with Koveras and know he do go to the PZ. We go together to both Nassau and Deadman. We get oure damage and from time to time a decent battle where we only have to fight 2 vs 5-6 Russians. Most time it is 2 vs 6-8 and ofc for some reason other Nations often join Russia. But neither he ore I complain abouth it, as we neither complained when you took 2 rate to kill us in the Aves PZ.

He and I will easy survive in this game, but to compare top player achivement and say new guys easy can do it to. Thats plain wrong.

no, this is very easy, for new players too. 

I have one of the biggest communities(clan) in the game. And of course a lot of newbies. Those guys who listen to my advice. They walk and get a lot of damage and a lot of combat medals.
That's why I know what I'm talking about and these are not empty words.

I can show this in stream again and again. 

30k reals + 1 hour game = many experience + many combat medals = reals\doublons

more experience = more demage in next battle = more CM = more good ships

more good ships + more experience = more and more fun and CM\doulobns\reals 

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