admin Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Trawn said: It is such a shame this game only revolves around Bellona, Christian and Ocean. They are gorgeous and powerful ships for sure, but I am starting to get fed up with them, they are everywhere. They may as well delete all other ships from the looks of it. 🤔 You should try other ships too.. they are very good. Santi and victory need some love INDEED! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoatyMcBoatFace Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, admin said: You should try other ships too.. they are very good. Santi and victory need some love INDEED! make the permits easier to get and give the victory its historical speed if you TRULY want to see more of them 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaNik Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Mouth of Sauron said: Where was this Panik? Near Gasparilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erelkivtuadrater Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, admin said: You should try other ships too.. they are very good. Santi and victory need some love INDEED! increase the BR for some of the 2nd rates #DONE, same can be said about some 1st rates Edited January 29, 2020 by erelkivtuadrater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je maintiendrai Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 10:07 PM, Imperator1 said: 1 vs 4 (Christian vs 2 Victory, Bucentaure and Wasa) I think we should nerf RamDinark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vizzini Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Shocktrooper Basteyy said: Santo Tomé de Guyana PB The Dutch had quite some numbers today at Santo, gladly their screning fleet couldn't tag us because of the lack of BR. We joined the PB and had the wind advantage but 2 1st rates less. But still won. GG! Let's see what we will be written in the gazette about this! VP screeners didn't have enough BR to keep the Prussians ( who sailed well to get there all together) out and once inside they kicked arse, pretty much Can't see any reason to try and spin it any other way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeekonda Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 hours ago, Shocktrooper Basteyy said: "Prussians had HMS Victroy and the Dutch didn't - this is a clear representation of gear based PAY-TO-WIN game that GL wont fix. Everyone who disagrees is delusional." Ya all welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cid Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Don't think wind made the difference. Dutch decided to not fight and ran from one circle to another. Why not fight in c under fort? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Sekiro Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 23 hours ago, Trawn said: It is such a shame this game only revolves around Bellona, Christian and Ocean. They are gorgeous and powerful ships for sure, but I am starting to get fed up with them, they are everywhere. They may as well delete all other ships from the looks of it. 🤔 False. Most of player use this ship cause they are more easy to play than other , but they are not better. In my side , victory is the best 1st rate , more hard to play, but in hand of a good player you can make thinks you can't with océan and santisima. Bucentaure is better than Christian in truth, but more hard to play cause Christian got lot better turn rate. Never forget a battle is 25%ship, 25% upgrade/book , 50% skill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeekonda Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lt Sekiro said: Bucentaure is better than Christian in truth, but more hard to play cause Christian got lot better turn rate. There is no way Bucentaure is better than Christian Christian has: Better firepower + Better speed + Better turn rate + Better rose + Slightly worse HP(320) and Thickness(3) - Requires permit - Has 100 less BR + Bringing full Christian PB fleet into 5700 BR port battle leaves you room for 3 requins, while bringing full Bucentaure leaves you room for 1 requin. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Rainsborough Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Shocktrooper Basteyy said: Santo Tomé de Guyana PB The Dutch had quite some numbers today at Santo, gladly their screning fleet couldn't tag us because of the lack of BR. We joined the PB and had the wind advantage but 2 1st rates less. But still won. GG! Let's see what we will be written in the gazette about this! "That facking wind" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Rainsborough Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Captain Cid said: Don't think wind made the difference. Dutch decided to not fight and ran from one circle to another. Why not fight in c under fort? Because, wind and beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Rainsborough Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 11 hours ago, admin said: You should try other ships too.. they are very good. Santi and victory need some love INDEED! Change the BRs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Sekiro Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beeekonda said: There is no way Bucentaure is better than Christian Christian has: Better firepower + Better speed + Better turn rate + Better rose + Slightly worse HP(320) and Thickness(3) - Requires permit - Has 100 less BR + Bringing full Christian PB fleet into 5700 BR port battle leaves you room for 3 requins, while bringing full Bucentaure leaves you room for 1 requin. In stats yes, but some thinks stats don't give . Like fire angle depending in hull disagne and bounce chance with angle Lower profile Smaller ass Better firepower? Pls use 36 pd ans not 42 pd on bucentaure , you will see the power of french navy Some move can be dot more easily with bucentaure than Christian ect ect Thats thinks you can't explain with stats , but with experience Edited January 29, 2020 by Lt Sekiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator1 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Good fight vs french (5 vs 11) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Beeekonda said: There is no way Bucentaure is better than Christian Christian has: Better firepower + Better speed + Better turn rate + Better rose + Slightly worse HP(320) and Thickness(3) - Requires permit - Has 100 less BR + Bringing full Christian PB fleet into 5700 BR port battle leaves you room for 3 requins, while bringing full Bucentaure leaves you room for 1 requin. it is known. 31 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said: Change the BRs! exactly. we don't need to mess with stats too much (even more so when new ships come and have "better stats....(arguably)" but BR changing can help in both OW and PBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeekonda Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lt Sekiro said: Thats thinks you can't explain with stats , but with experience Experience shows me Christians in almost every PB and no Bucentaures. Christians everywhere in OW and no Bucs. Maybe making their BR the same could help bring Buc back to RVR? PS: I do actually sail a Buc it isnt bad at all. Its just his BR that makes him suck in RVR. This was like 2 days ago at Jobe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 a general BR increase of 1st and 2nd rate is needed. the BR of the Christian is incredibly low for what it offers. Even if you made the Christian 700 BR - I think it would still be superior to a Bucentaure. 36pd guns are trash compared to 42pd guns, i'm not even joking. If you want players to use 36s over 42s, then the ship needs to be limited to it. otherwise 42s it is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botq Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 12 hours ago, admin said: You should try other ships too.. they are very good. Santi and victory need some love INDEED! I think santi is fairly balanced now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Christian should be brought up to at least 700 BR. No reason why it should have 600BR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sento de Benimaclet Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Remove the permits and we will give a lot of love to Santísima Trinidad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despe Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Never said: Christian should be brought up to at least 700 BR. No reason why it should have 600BR. Totally agree. BR of some ships is not the accurate imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sento de Benimaclet said: Remove the permits and we will give a lot of love to Santísima Trinidad. Or add permits as PB rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Rainsborough Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Christian BR should be a lot higher. It's prefereable to a Victory in PvP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, rediii said: I think Santi is fine as it is already but agree on victory. Same goes for: - normal 3rd rate (give it 24 pounders too but maybe less HP than bello etc) - Buccentaure. Once mighty, The christian is better in everything. It even has less BR i agree buffed and nerfed (ideology on players needs for victory .. bah...) : what a historical bloody shame... i say.. да ... как грязно, не забудь Павла Edited January 30, 2020 by Thonys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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