Celtiberofrog Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Dear community of EU server, Further to the unfortunate bug that generated 2 uncontroled Port battles (Cartagena & Salamanca) that were grinded by British Faction, as well as further to the Dev's decision to fix the bug but keeping those 2 PB's at same time on same day; both parties, british players & Spanish players have tried to sort out this problem by themselves within the most acceptable way keeping fairplay as main objective. It has been agreed as follow: Spanish players, mostly represented by VLTRA, PLVS & BSG clans, will not defend Cartagena, so Brits can take it. and parallely Brits players, mostly represented by AHOY, DOGZ, SLRN & KINGS clans, will not show any fleet to Salamanca, so Spanish can control it. In case some ramdoms players would try to defend to attack these ports, these players will be sunk by the rightfull actors of this agreement. I personally cheer up the good will from both sides players that has permitted to settle this gentleman agreement. I also willingly involve my true word (on behalf of the mentioned Spanish clans) to respect this agreement. Long live our community. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarion Call Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 <0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostZone Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Arlington Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Lisa Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 this server seem to hate real PBs :/ 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDC Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) So, literally the first opportunity to have a real fight in this 'total war' and its going to be solved without a single shot being fired? And no fun was had by all! Rofl I mean, seriously, I get that the bugged hostility thing was lame but why not just abandon Cartagena and have a real port battle at Salamanca? Spanish would almost certainly have been able to defend it and it would have involved actual fun, rather than this lameness and the result would have been the same!!!!! Edited June 24, 2017 by JCDC 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Drax Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 The United States is glad to see this unfortunate situation with the pb bug resolved honorably. Huzzah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtiberofrog Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said: Well, explain Spanish nation what's a total war. They begged for this agreement. Pathetic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepp636 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 47 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said: Well, explain Spanish nation what's a total war. They begged for this agreement. 29 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said: That was an answer for JCDC complaining about lack of real Port Battles. Not a good one and this is not what happened in the talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundgemunkey Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 thank you spain for honouring your agreement ....while the outcome wasnt much fun i believe it was the best option for the NA community 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Great solution, guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Wicked Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL LOCO Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 screw community. Stop ruining this game with deals and exploits, stupid alliances. Let's have a good port battle for once. It is a game ! to be played. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Alucard_ Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Conquest mechanics are absolutely wrong. We are lucky that Spain had all those territories in those days, because if we start with 1 region we wouldn't be able to capture anything from a nation with more players. It's depresing. At least with the flag system we had the surprise factor.... Now, dear devs, tell us how the hell can we get back a port like Cartagena? This game always favours those nations with huge numbers and you don't give a hello kitty if the small ......nah, forget it. You'll never change this. Edited June 25, 2017 by _Alucard_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Horatio Hornblower Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, _Alucard_ said: Conquest mechanics are absolutely wrong. We are lucky that Spain had all those territories in those days, because if we start with 1 region we wouldn't be able to capture anything from a nation with more players. It's depresing. At least with the flag system we had the surprise factor.... Now, dear devs, tell us how the hell can we get back a port like Cartagena? This game always favours those nations with huge numbers and you don't give a hello kitty if the small ......nah, forget it. You'll never change this. Blame your stupid leaders of VLTRA that declares a total war against a nation which have more numbers than yours. Deal with it. And remember, no diplo talkings are promoted in this total war of yours. It is going to be fun to reduce your foolish spantards to Habana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magallanes Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Devs must pay back to spanish nation all consequences of this bug... They did anything to solve at time...And they have put a bug in exploiter hands. Devs, do you think english nation will return Cartagena ??? A port won from illegality. We wasted our time in "this game". Thanks Frog for your work, . Edited June 25, 2017 by Magallanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarion Call Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Magallanes said: Devs must pay back to spanish nation all consequences of this bug... They did anything to solve at time...And they have put a bug in exploiter hands. Devs, do you think english nation will return Cartagena ??? A port won from illegality. We wasted our time in "this game". Thanks Frog for your work, . Look mate, I said it earlier in this thread that the British had strategically planned for both ports to go off at the same time. Now, what happened was that the time period to flip was breached by about an hour to two hours and the ports flipped when they weren't supposed to. The Spanish strategy was to drop a war bomb on one of the ports just prior to the 1700 timeframe so the battle couldn't be started, thereby giving you only one port to defend. Because of the bug, the devs were approached and the timers were reset for the port battles.... to 2200 server time the same day. Having talked with others in all nations, was this fair to the Spanish? NO, it was not.. Why? Because technically, both battles should have been extended to 1700 today, like previous battles have been. But that didn't happen. So the Spanish approached the British, we had some serious discussions, and we made the agreement. All sides honored it. As for your comment that Cartagena was won from "illegality" we (the British Nation) could have put up fleets to attempt to take both ports and possibly succeeded, and under the game mechanics we would have been within our rights because the devs "addressed" the bug complaints and decided to put the port battle at 2200 themselves. So there is no "illegality" here. There are no requirements for the devs to "pay back the Spanish Nation all consequences of this bug." So please be mindful of the situation surrounding individual actions prior to spouting some nonsense, cheers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakal16 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 The fact is Cartagena was taken by an "illegallity" because as you said, this port timers shouldn't happen, and is a fact. We had an agreement and everyone honoured it, but is a fact you are the only ones who really won due this port timers bug, so this is the reality and everyone knows it. We cannot change that but don't say you didn't win a important port by free, the only thing we can hope is this bug disasters don't happen to anyone anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDC Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chakal16 said: The fact is Cartagena was taken by an "illegallity" because as you said, this port timers shouldn't happen, and is a fact. We had an agreement and everyone honoured it, but is a fact you are the only ones who really won due this port timers bug, so this is the reality and everyone knows it. We cannot change that but don't say you didn't win a important port by free, the only thing we can hope is this bug disasters don't happen to anyone anymore. Brits would have made port battles today at both Salamanca and Carta without that bug. so all the bug did was delay by 1 day. the problem is not the bug, the problem is you started a war you cant fight. 1 day. 1 day. literally. you would not have been able to defend both ports. so, this whole 'bug' excuse is just pathetic. you were going to lose that port from the moment of your melodramatic war declaration. Edited June 25, 2017 by JCDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakal16 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Oh... i can asure you could not make those ports battles without the bug, and remember who started to take spanish ports and attacked Sant Iago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassimoSud Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Spanish Total War! LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magallanes Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, JCDC said: Brits would have made port battles today at both Salamanca and Carta without that bug. so all the bug did was delay by 1 day. the problem is not the bug, the problem is you started a war you cant fight. 1 day. 1 day. literally. you would not have been able to defend both ports. so, this whole 'bug' excuse is just pathetic. you were going to lose that port from the moment of your melodramatic war declaration. English wordiness. You use the words " Game mechanics" to define exploit . Feel free yo use "exploits" from now. Your replies are bored...All people saw yesterday: A timer bug+devs no action= english exploit to get adventage. From my opinión, I didnt attack your nation in the same situación. Im sure of that. You are very confidence thinking about spanish ability to defend both ports with a correct timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Is this was total war to eradicate an entire faction looks like? Good effort on completely overselling this agreement though. Looks like Britain got the short end here. They passed up on a chance to take Salamanca, in return for Cartagena which Spain has in the history of NA never bothered to defend because it's just too remote. Edited June 25, 2017 by Quineloe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakal16 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said: Blame your stupid leaders of VLTRA that declares a total war against a nation which have more numbers than yours. Deal with it. And remember, no diplo talkings are promoted in this total war of yours. It is going to be fun to reduce your foolish spantards to Habana. Try to do it without exploiting and use bugs, is going to be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakal16 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Quineloe said: Is this was total war to eradicate an entire faction looks like? Good effort on completely overselling this agreement though. Looks like Britain got the short end here. They passed up on a chance to take Salamanca, in return for Cartagena which Spain has in the history of NA never bothered to defend because it's just too remote. Short end here? They won an important port which was already defended by free, so.. sure poor brits they won Cartagena without a single shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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