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48 minutes ago, Anolytic said:

More than 25 people intended to join that PB. That, by definition, makes it not a troll flip

fair enough, but from my perspective 4 were in the battle with me, and when i asked the screen they said they had no one in battle, when i went to the French TS the diplo online said he had no idea there even was a PB at Wilmington, and the Swedish diplo said that they had not gone and it was a french PB.

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24 minutes ago, Louis Garneray said:

What about creating players events with real PVP? It will certainly be more fun than portbattles...

This, all this drama for some PB's that aren't that great compared to regular OW battle, except they magically force a region to change hands depending on the result. We should clearly find out why players are so involved in the PB's. Is it because of the RVR impact? The 25 vs 25 first rate brawl they provide?  

If it is the RVR effect, we can easily solve this by changing the RVR focus from PB's to something else. I had expected the hostility generation to be the real driving force for PVP, not just a mandatory PVE grinding operation to unlock the revered PB, that stir so much shit lately. 

Plenty of player made solution to solve the night flips where made, but the devs already have all the tools and mechanic needed to develop a nice RVR system ( flags, PVP zones, hostility, AI fleets, delimited region.)  IMO, they should keep the hostility system, remove the PVE hostility mission completely and use those existing mechanics to good effect and promote OW PVP and RVR.

 

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4 minutes ago, Serk said:

This, all this drama for some PB's that aren't that great compared to regular OW battle, except they magically force a region to change hands depending on the result.

I had expected the hostility generation to be the real driving force for PVP, not just a mandatory PVE grinding operation to unlock the revered PB, that stir so much shit lately. 

Plenty of player made solution to solve the night flips where made, but the devs already have all the tools and mechanic needed to develop a nice RVR system ( flags, PVP zones, hostility, AI fleets, delimited region.)  IMO, they should keep the hostility system, remove the PVE hostility mission completely and use those existing mechanics to good effect and promote OW PVP and RVR.

 

the problem with PvP only to generate hostility is a nation can defend an area from port battles by not showing up   There needs to be a way to make port battles in the face of the enemy refusing to be there or there will be no port battles other then "arraigned" ones 

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36 minutes ago, Augustus Charles Hobart H said:

the problem with PvP only to generate hostility is a nation can defend an area from port battles by not showing up   There needs to be a way to make port battles in the face of the enemy refusing to be there or there will be no port battles other then "arraigned" ones 

I understand your point.

You could always generate hostility by attacking the AI fleets in the area, but hopefully at a very low pace in order not to replace PVP, as is happening now, and to prevent flipping a region in a few hours. Defender would then be forced to lower hostility, but mostly with PVP since there are close to no enemy AI fleets in home waters.

This is also why I would remove PB's completely (yes, that surely mean the desmise of the poor mortar brig, but frigates and 3rd and 2bd rate could find more use). Defender is then forced to show up, or else he loses the region once hostility reach 100%, instead of betting on a single battle and a solid screen.

Here's a small summary I've posted a few days ago, using already available mechanics instead of reinventing the game. Feel free to comment. It is a bit similar to what Wraith suggested in one of his post.

 

P.S. If we really want to keep PVE hostility mission, the rate must be considerably lowered to make it a few days affair instead of a few hours.  All time zones could be involved this way.

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2 hours ago, Augustus Charles Hobart H said:

Cumana, puerto plata, Wilmington all at 7 - 10am US time

Pvp 1 Eu server.

 

We definitly need a wall to keep americans away.

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No responds to topics like those are the real problem 

 

Idk why but people just want to avoid or are not interested in fights outside of PBs, except they have a big advantage (which in the end is boring for all). Maybe most play PBs to get a boner when they watch at the map and not for getting good fights.

If people wanted to get good fights it would be so easy to organize, but most just dont want to. This pussy community is destroying the game, not the devs or retarded nightflips.

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And as I type this Dane players are logging out infront of Remedios, taking advantage of game mechanics that were supposed to be fixed in this current patch.  Somehow they miraculously were not.  How fortuitous.  Imagine if Nelson could of logged off in position before all his battles

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But yea, night flips are ruining this game.  What a crock of shit.  

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1 hour ago, Christendom said:

And as I type this Dane players are logging out infront of Remedios, taking advantage of game mechanics that were supposed to be fixed in this current patch.  Somehow they miraculously were not.  How fortuitous.  Imagine if Nelson could of logged off in position before all his battles

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But yea, night flips are ruining this game.  What a crock of shit.  

Yesterday, in the evening of Americas, God make a miracle!!!
An US fleet appears in the channel point of entry Santa Fe!!!!!

MAAAGICCCC!!

To be clear:

Usually spaniards go to PB previously to attack .

UK & US usually DISCONNECTS front of a PB <-- Yes, that the truth.

Am I the only I think you are a little two-faced?... your night flips are not ruinning the game. One year watching UK & US abusing of defective game mechanical, thats arruining the game.

Yesterday was nightflips from USA, but last week were the misseducation of many mind-teenager players insulting on chats (like rural people, tacos and spain? OMG!). Last night the upgrades exploit ... and tomorrow?

Please @Chirstendom, take a week of rest sleeping in your confortable sofa and think how hypocrite you could be.

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18 minutes ago, deltonos said:

Yesterday, in the evening of Americas, God make a miracle!!!
An US fleet appears in the channel point of entry Santa Fe!!!!!

MAAAGICCCC!!

To be clear:

Usually spaniards go to PB previously to attack .

UK & US usually DISCONNECTS front of a PB <-- Yes, that the truth.

Am I the only I think you are a little two-faced?... your night flips are not ruinning the game. One year watching UK & US abusing of defective game mechanical, thats arruining the game.

Yesterday was nightflips from USA, but last week were the misseducation of many mind-teenager players insulting on chats (like rural people, tacos and spain? OMG!). Last night the upgrades exploit ... and tomorrow?

Please @Chirstendom, take a week of rest sleeping in your confortable sofa and think how hypocrite you could be.

The US did not attack Santa Fe last night.  The US has never had a full fleet log off under the swords to my recollection.

Nope.

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1 hour ago, deltonos said:

Yesterday, in the evening of Americas, God make a miracle!!!
An US fleet appears in the channel point of entry Santa Fe!!!!!

MAAAGICCCC!!

To be clear:

Usually spaniards go to PB previously to attack .

UK & US usually DISCONNECTS front of a PB <-- Yes, that the truth.

Am I the only I think you are a little two-faced?... your night flips are not ruinning the game. One year watching UK & US abusing of defective game mechanical, thats arruining the game.

Yesterday was nightflips from USA, but last week were the misseducation of many mind-teenager players insulting on chats (like rural people, tacos and spain? OMG!). Last night the upgrades exploit ... and tomorrow?

Please @Chirstendom, take a week of rest sleeping in your confortable sofa and think how hypocrite you could be.

You talk alot, let's see if you can proof anything you say.

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31 minutes ago, Captain Alexander said:

You talk alot, let's see if you can proof anything you say.

The fair play from U.D.U coalition Sir!

I´ve got more, but spend your time sitting in front a mirror...

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/19097-unfair-use-of-alt-account/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18279-alt-used-to-tag-a-pb-fleet/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18448-night-flips-griefing/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18296-usa-pirate-alts-used-to-raise-hostility/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/17142-coraline-vodka-griefing-toxic-chat/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/15171-serious-exploit-again/
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8 minutes ago, deltonos said:

The fair play from U.D.U coalition Sir!

I´ve got more, but spend your time sitting in front a mirror...


http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/19097-unfair-use-of-alt-account/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18279-alt-used-to-tag-a-pb-fleet/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18448-night-flips-griefing/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18296-usa-pirate-alts-used-to-raise-hostility/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/17142-coraline-vodka-griefing-toxic-chat/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/15171-serious-exploit-again/

#1 - no proof found.
#2 - Hugh is definitely not an alt.  no proof found
#3 - use of game mechanics
#4 - PVP2?
#5  - That guy openly stole medkits from Vodka.    
#6 - Not an exploit.  

This does sound like a post full of accusations though.  We should report it.  

C'mon Deltonos, you're better than this.

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8 minutes ago, deltonos said:

The fair play from U.D.U coalition Sir!

I´ve got more, but spend your time sitting in front a mirror...


http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/19097-unfair-use-of-alt-account/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18279-alt-used-to-tag-a-pb-fleet/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18448-night-flips-griefing/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/18296-usa-pirate-alts-used-to-raise-hostility/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/17142-coraline-vodka-griefing-toxic-chat/
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/15171-serious-exploit-again/

sorry bad troll, that doesn't proof anything you said.

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Just now, Captain Alexander said:

sorry bad troll, that doesn't proof anything you said.

Ok, well going to find a solution.

This evening, after clasess, on the back parking of school.

No parents, no friends, 2 men alone ...:wub:

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6 hours ago, Kloothommel said:

That his enjoyment in the game has been ruined.

Not like the whole meta gameplay/endless hours of work for short fun has killed far more players then night flips ever could - you're looking at a 9:1 scenario here. And again this occurs on both sides.

6 hours ago, Major General La Fayette said:

Just like the 1000 other players the server is missing...

9:1 dude - there are so many issues right now that are far more threatening to the playerbase we are already missing and those that remain.

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That's what you get for even trying. Just move on, wait for release, play for the first 3-6 months before we're back to the same thing and then pack it up.

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Castries scheduled for 8 pm local time for me,  a great time for a port battle.  Don't care what time it is anywhere else in the world.

 

And I did have an extension cord this time, stupid laptop.

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