Mass Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I haven't been on awhile and i loved the Wappen von hamburg, and im wondering if there is any ships on the way into the game that i have forgotten? Mass (Jachen Syren Mass ) Ingame FRANCE :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSamuelHood Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 1/18/2017 at 3:39 AM, BungeeLemming said: A sidenote: http://ao.sa.dk/ao/data.ashx?bid=39521541 This is the Christianus sixtus - the vessel which is beeing developed right now and which might be within the next few patches. A 90 gun vessel of the early 1800. 36/18/12/6pd cannons. The first true 2nd rate we will have ingame. This beauty will be coming soon, and I can't say how happy I'll be to have a real 2nd rate around. A proper three decker. Beyond that, I can't say with any surety. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 Oh my lord thats the ship ive been waiting 2 years for ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spud Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, rediii said: Don't know if you mean the Wasa with this. We are working on the several ships including Wasa and Hermione. I'm going to ask a stupid question here, but is the wasa the 17th century ship? Isn't that like, seriously out of the timeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fransgelden Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Are we going to get a trader ship? Like the New Amsterdam or something similar? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spud Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just now, rediii said: Don't ask me, question and answer is from the Q&A of the devs Allright thanks, was just googeling it and it just felt like a weird ship to have in the game. Guess we'll just find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Altho I cannot tell you if the devs take this exact model for reference I provided them with it when I turned my model in to them: https://digitaltmuseum.se/search/?context=photograph&aq=text%3A"kronprins"%2C"gustav" The Wasa is an open secret anyways. I quote what I wrote somewhere else: Quote To give you an overview I summarize her dimensions, armament and crew compliment: length (over all) : 49,3m beam: 13,59m max Draught (full load): 5,79m height of gundeck above the water: 2,18m tonnage: 2000 (no idea what meassurement was used here!) total cost: 78 000 riksdaler time until slipping*: 51 – 145 days total guns: 62 crew compliment: 564 men, total(->7 oficers; 2 officer cadets; 33 petty officers; 522 other ranks) *time until slipping: the time needed from laying down the keel until the ship is slipped into the water. After beeing slipped the carpenters will have to complete the planking above the waterline and building the intereur of the vessels as well as the rigging. The initial armament consisted of 26 x 24pd guns, 26 x 18pd guns and 8 x 6pd guns. The navy later upgunned many ships (not all because of the lack of ressources) to a 26 x 36pd, 26 x 24pd, 8 x 6pd armament. Note that the plans show 5 gunports on the quarterdecks whereas all records talk about 8 guns on the QD. Not sure how the game will handle that. Also these vessels feature two dedicated 6pd chase guns on the forecastle. Also note that the swedish artillery pound was lesser than others. (mainly to prevent the russians to use the swedish guns) Given these figures in here are correct her armament correlated to: 36pd(swe) = 33,75pd(brit) -- 24pd(swe) = 22,49pd(brit) -- 6pd(swe) = 5,6pd(brit) Ingame that could translate into 32 / 24 / 6 [pd] She is Chapmans greatest victory over traditional shipbuilding. This vessel was designed in competition against another shipbuilder and the Wasa was found to be superior in many ways. higher gunports, very good saiing and maneuvering. And Chapman build crew friendly ships. In term of space that is. https://digitaltmuseum.se/011014856402/b1554-1-2/media?i=44&aq=text%3A"kronprins"%2C"gustav" https://digitaltmuseum.se/011014889192/mm02664/media?i=30&aq=text%3A"kronprins"%2C"gustav" https://digitaltmuseum.se/011014888876/mm03532/media?aq=text%3A"kronprins"%2C"gustav"&i=31 note the special carriage design: https://digitaltmuseum.se/011014888813/mm03529/media?i=2&aq=text%3A"kronprins"%2C"gustav" that was also used for the 36 pounders. Its not limited to the 6pd chasers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spud Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Allright, cheers for the info guys. Kinda happy its not the 17th century wasa. Edited February 10, 2017 by The Spud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sveno Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The Wasa will finally make me stop sailing Wappens. She is a real beauty! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, sveno said: The Wasa will finally make me stop sailing Wappens. She is a real beauty! Wappens are only good as fireships anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Prince de Neufchatel is also in the game files. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Merrill Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, maturin said: Prince de Neufchatel is also in the game files. THIS is the one I want to see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I have personally been anticipating the Wasa for a long time now. I eagerly await it's arrival into the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSamuelHood Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 7 hours ago, rediii said: We are working on the several ships including Wasa Thank god it's not the one that flipped. We've gotten convoy escort ship which has quickly become the best choice for a fireship due to its inadequacies as a warship, and now imagine a poorly built (albeit pretty) ship that foundered 1300 meters into its maiden voyage in a light gust of wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomms123 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, SirSamuelHood said: Thank god it's not the one that flipped. We've gotten convoy escort ship which has quickly become the best choice for a fireship due to its inadequacies as a warship, and now imagine a poorly built (albeit pretty) ship that foundered 1300 meters into its maiden voyage in a light gust of wind. I blame it all on the dutch person which were the head of construction. The Wasa is a very pretty ship, so it Christian VII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tomms123 said: I blame it all on the dutch person which were the head of construction. The Wasa is a very pretty ship, so it Christian VII Or the lack of intelligence which was embedded in the upgunning request of the king Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomms123 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, SteelSandwich said: Or the lack of intelligence which was embedded in the upgunning request of the king The King is always right, I blame the dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRuyter Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Jœrnson said: Wappens are only good as fireships anyway Which shows the sad state of fireship mechanics in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, DeRuyter said: Which shows the sad state of fireship mechanics in the game. ^ I would've loved to see the designated ship module being reworked to represent a 17th century fireship. Meaning you would ahve to 'prep' the fire, similar to the current boarding prep. As soon as your prep reaches 80-90 or so, your ship starts to burn. Besides this, it should allow your to bump, sail next to, or similar to boarding grapple the enemy when he is slow enough. Fires do sail damage, spread easily, we have the mechanical basics that are needed for such a rework, which would make fireships more enjoyable imo. (Also means that big ships once of ire can toggle survival on/off, but once turned off you can never turn it back on and your crew starts to abandon ship, meaning handling would get much harder pretty fast.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRuyter Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 @SteelSandwich Fireships were also mostly smaller vessels like brigs and snows with all guns removed as part of the fire ship prep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, DeRuyter said: @SteelSandwich Fireships were also mostly smaller vessels like brigs and snows with all guns removed as part of the fire ship prep. Interestingly enough, the Dutch on multiple occasions removed the guns, but replaced them with painted wooded replica's. Effectively making them indistinguishable for the rest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 That same ruse was used by ... all "sea cultures and nations". From traders ( with one quarter only with real guns, after all carriages take too much real estate), to fire ships, to rovers trying to look menacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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