Augustus Charles Hobart H Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Christendom said: Kloothomel will not be at the meeting so it's fine. Think of the popcorn sales though Edited January 26, 2017 by Augustus Charles Hobart H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowilly Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 ummmm so r us Polaks allowed to show up or not....just asking Ben D Arnold US (u can tell im of Polish descent cuz iv a thick skull and asian eyes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Augustus Charles Hobart H said: Think of the popcorn sales though I guess there won't be enough salt. Only buttered and sweet popcorn for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Charles Hobart H Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, Kloothommel said: I guess there won't be enough salt. Only buttered and sweet popcorn for you! disappointing you can never have too much salt on buttered popcorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Frias Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Augustus Charles Hobart H said: Bring food I´ll bring beer better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvar Fañez de Minaya Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Beer and food......... Like it's a wedding.......... Try to square the circle is an old problem......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Dog. Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, Vernon Merrill said: Hold, on.... What does "Kloothommel" translate to?.... it's an annoying insect with big balls envy? or slang for asshole. Either are appropriate. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kloothommel Edited January 26, 2017 by Salty Dog PVP1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Salty Dog PVP1 said: it's an annoying insect with big balls envy? or slang for asshole. Either are appropriate. Great find on the clip. I laughed a lot! But isn't this getting a but tooo personal like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Dog. Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Kloothommel said: Great find on the clip. I laughed a lot! But isn't this getting a but tooo personal like this? it was YOUR choice of a name, not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Salty Dog PVP1 said: it was YOUR choice of a name, not mine. Now you are just being Salty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 No mercy for the enemy. x500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 My homework for the diplomats this weekend: Implement a system of alternating alliances. Start with say (ES,GB,DK) vs (US,SE,FR,NL) or say (ES,GB,NL) vs (US,DK,SE,FR) or.. It's not as impossible and insane as it looks. Both sides are not beyond reason, I know this. You just need to get rid of the pile of crap you have built up flinging at each other. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monk33y Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Could you guys ask the Devs (if all nation's agree) to suspend all alliances for two weeks!! Let the players once again pick the fights! Let the 2week free for all influence future allies/enemies!!! Let us the players do what we choose, if after 2 weeks of war everywhere we pick the same allies more fool us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, monk33y said: Could you guys ask the Devs (if all nation's agree) to suspend all alliances for two weeks!! Let the players once again pick the fights! Let the 2week free for all influence future allies/enemies!!! Let us the players do what we choose, if after 2 weeks of war everywhere we pick the same allies more fool us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Confirmed Attendance from every nation thus far, whether it be on there or via PM except the swedes. Will you be attending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikodemus Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 May be to late but if this goes well. Might want to see if you can get a Dev to attend next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundgemunkey Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Snoopy said: My homework for the diplomats this weekend: Implement a system of alternating alliances. Start with say (ES,GB,DK) vs (US,SE,FR,NL) or say (ES,GB,NL) vs (US,DK,SE,FR) or.. It's not as impossible and insane as it looks. Both sides are not beyond reason, I know this. You just need to get rid of the pile of crap you have built up flinging at each other. it kind of is insane .... the division is too deep ... you think if Brits were forcibly allied with spain and denmark ... people would vote to keep that alliance ,,,within a month the alliances would be as they are now ... 2nd i wouldn't leave port to help Spanish or Danes never mind sail the hour or so we sail to help US or Dutch .. its not going to work .. you cant force people to be allies and expect all to be happy i would rather quit game and go do something else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, Grundgemunkey said: it kind of is insane .... the division is too deep ... you think if Brits were forcibly allied with spain and denmark ... people would vote to keep that alliance ,,,within a month the alliances would be as they are now ... 2nd i wouldn't leave port to help Spanish or Danes never mind sail the hour or so we sail to help US or Dutch .. its not going to work .. you cant force people to be allies and expect all to be happy i would rather quit game and go do something else Agreed.. No need for a summit - I'll wait for the devs to fix the issue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Grundgemunkey said: it kind of is insane .... the division is too deep ... you think if Brits were forcibly allied with spain and denmark ... people would vote to keep that alliance ,,,within a month the alliances would be as they are now ... 2nd i wouldn't leave port to help Spanish or Danes never mind sail the hour or so we sail to help US or Dutch .. its not going to work .. you cant force people to be allies and expect all to be happy i would rather quit game and go do something else Division too deep.. you are basically making my point here Wouldn't you agree this means that something needs to be done? Or is this a healthy attitude for such a small community like ours, in a game that is in the development stage, that actual hatred between factions should be the norm? If nothing is done soon, will this be easier to mend in two months? One of the key elements of Nations and Navies of the age was that their representatives' (diplomats and officers) attitude towards each was highly courteous and professional, especially in war. Dining with the captain of the enemy ship after battle was the norm. Shifting alliances were the norm. It seems to me it's high time we get a slice of this. I know that a DK/GB alliance would be a hard one to swallow. So would the other pairings. It doesn't have to start with the most hated pairs first, try ES+GB, difficult too, but we need to start reassembling alliances on a regular basis, otherwise we will always remain in the trench you admitted being in. There are cases where this has worked. US/GB had several wars/peace in this game already and the last war was good sportsmanship on both sides, which made the following alliance a lot easier. DK/SE making up would've been unthinkable, but it works. DK/NL breaking up - unthinkable until it happened. There is precedence. The good bit about changing coalitions on a regular basis is that these break ups won't be forever, you get to play with your friends again. It would be a lot easier if this was part of a game mechanic. It isn't, so we need to do this via diplomacy. It needs to happen. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chijohnaok Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Snoopy said: One of the key elements of Nations and Navies of the age was that their representatives' (diplomats and officers) attitude towards each was highly courteous and professional, especially in war. Dining with the captain of the enemy ship after battle was the norm. Shifting alliances were the norm. It seems to me it's high time we get a slice of this. My ships extends an offer to you and your officers to dine on board my ship, the USS Constitution. Dinner will be piped at 7pm EST (00:00) server time. I will ask the cook to prepare a low salt meal. Don't be late. ;-) Edited January 27, 2017 by Chijohnaok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundgemunkey Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Snoopy said: Division too deep.. you are basically making my point here Wouldn't you agree this means that something needs to be done? Or is this a healthy attitude for such a small community like ours, in a game that is in the development stage, that actual hatred between factions should be the norm? If nothing is done soon, will this be easier to mend in two months? One of the key elements of Nations and Navies of the age was that their representatives' (diplomats and officers) attitude towards each was highly courteous and professional, especially in war. Dining with the captain of the enemy ship after battle was the norm. Shifting alliances were the norm. It seems to me it's high time we get a slice of this. I know that a DK/GB alliance would be a hard one to swallow. So would the other pairings. It doesn't have to start with the most hated pairs first, try ES+GB, difficult too, but we need to start reassembling alliances on a regular basis, otherwise we will always remain in the trench you admitted being in. There are cases where this has worked. US/GB had several wars/peace in this game already and the last war was good sportsmanship on both sides, which made the following alliance a lot easier. DK/SE making up would've been unthinkable, but it works. DK/NL breaking up - unthinkable until it happened. There is precedence. The good bit about changing coalitions on a regular basis is that these break ups won't be forever, you get to play with your friends again. It would be a lot easier if this was part of a game mechanic. It isn't, so we need to do this via diplomacy. It needs to happen. think maybe 3-4 months ago ...it might have worked ..too many real or perceived exploits used ... counter exploit ,,, threats to quit or spoil each others gaming ...since then . dont forget this meeting on saturday is because of the danes threat to quit the game because they lost a few ports ... not because anyone cheated or used exploits of game mechanics .. but because a group of people played the game at their own convenience rather than at the Danes convenience .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloothommel Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Grundgemunkey said: think maybe 3-4 months ago ...it might have worked ..too many real or perceived exploits used ... counter exploit ,,, threats to quit or spoil each others gaming ...since then . dont forget this meeting on saturday is because of the danes threat to quit the game because they lost a few ports ... not because anyone cheated or used exploits of game mechanics .. but because a group of people played the game at their own convenience rather than at the Danes convenience .. We'll be back when we can have fun again. And it's not only us. Edited January 27, 2017 by Kloothommel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundgemunkey Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Just now, Kloothommel said: We'll be back when we can have fun again. i hope you do ,,,meanwhile we shall continue having fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Dog. Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grundgemunkey said: it kind of is insane .... the division is too deep ... you think if Brits were forcibly allied with spain and denmark ... people would vote to keep that alliance ,,,within a month the alliances would be as they are now ... 2nd i wouldn't leave port to help Spanish or Danes never mind sail the hour or so we sail to help US or Dutch .. its not going to work .. you cant force people to be allies and expect all to be happy i would rather quit game and go do something else I will QUIT before I ally with the danes. Edited January 27, 2017 by Salty Dog PVP1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyRoger1516 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 56 minutes ago, Snoopy said: Division too deep.. you are basically making my point here Wouldn't you agree this means that something needs to be done? Or is this a healthy attitude for such a small community like ours, in a game that is in the development stage, that actual hatred between factions should be the norm? If nothing is done soon, will this be easier to mend in two months? One of the key elements of Nations and Navies of the age was that their representatives' (diplomats and officers) attitude towards each was highly courteous and professional, especially in war. Dining with the captain of the enemy ship after battle was the norm. Shifting alliances were the norm. It seems to me it's high time we get a slice of this. I know that a DK/GB alliance would be a hard one to swallow. So would the other pairings. It doesn't have to start with the most hated pairs first, try ES+GB, difficult too, but we need to start reassembling alliances on a regular basis, otherwise we will always remain in the trench you admitted being in. There are cases where this has worked. US/GB had several wars/peace in this game already and the last war was good sportsmanship on both sides, which made the following alliance a lot easier. DK/SE making up would've been unthinkable, but it works. DK/NL breaking up - unthinkable until it happened. There is precedence. The good bit about changing coalitions on a regular basis is that these break ups won't be forever, you get to play with your friends again. It would be a lot easier if this was part of a game mechanic. It isn't, so we need to do this via diplomacy. It needs to happen. It is a healthy attitude. It might not be the best for varying gameplay but it is surely healthy. For a full year now the alliances haven't really changed even at the time when we were making them ourselves by jsut not attacking. I have fought alongside Dutch and US players for a full year and there is no way in hell I would now jsut leave these guys behind or even raise my hand against them just because the game commands me to. I'd rather not attack for one cycle and wait for us to be allied again then to break up what we managed to create! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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