OneEyedSnake Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 The screenshots should prove it all, i will also attach bullet logs, and the DxDiag file. The player in question is HerringLatte, a swede on PVP2NA. Is this an exploit or did the devs hand out other Wappens that they did not announce? dxdiag.txt bulletLogs.txt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) No hack/exploit there. If a ship is controlled by AI (EG, Player AI Fleet - Or captured player ship on which you have put some crew). Then when you capture the ship off the AI, the ship will change quality to a random build. Edited January 20, 2017 by TommyShelby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEyedSnake Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Just now, TommyShelby said: No hack/exploit there. Ship stats can change when captured in battle and then taken by someone else. EG: I have Exceptional Santissima, Live Oak. I get captured by P1 during a battle, then P2 puts crew on my ship and leaves battle. P2 will not get an Exceptional Santissima, Live Oak. Instead he will get a random Santissima of whatever wood type. In essence, it can be exploited (Build Grey 1st rate and exchange the ship with a player from different nation and hope for a better ship than you had originally). But the player in question didn't hack. when was this implemented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Prize Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 minute ago, OneEyedSnake said: when was this implemented? 2 minutes ago, TommyShelby said: No hack/exploit there. Ship stats can change when captured in battle and then taken by someone else. EG: I have Exceptional Santissima, Live Oak. I get captured by P1 during a battle, then P2 puts crew on my ship and leaves battle. P2 will not get an Exceptional Santissima, Live Oak. Instead he will get a random Santissima of whatever wood type. In essence, it can be exploited (Build Grey 1st rate and exchange the ship with a player from different nation and hope for a better ship than you had originally). But the player in question didn't hack. Could it have dropped from exceptional to blue when capped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEyedSnake Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 I have captured tens of ships lately and never had this happen.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OneEyedSnake said: when was this implemented? Well its been like this for atleast a few months. The process i wrote might not be 100% correct when i come to think of it. (I'll edit my previous comment.) The ship must be controlled by AI (EG, Player AI Fleet - Or captured player ship on which you have put some crew). Then when you capture the ship off the AI, the ship will change quality to a random build. Sorry for the confusion!! Edited January 20, 2017 by TommyShelby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEyedSnake Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 hm, well id still really like a dev to check it out, because thats just something we have never heard of. I have gone around the server already and asked everyone online and no one has heard of this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) It works. A mate and myself tested it extensively. The Developers are aware of the issue (We reported it with F11 but also in a private conversation). I can see if i still have Screenshots of it Edit: Snippet from my Private Convo with Ink: Tommy Shelby to Ink."During our test's we noticed something else too. If you have a ship in your Player Fleet, and the enemy captures that ship. Then that ship will end up with new stats. EG: I have Fir/Stiffness LGV in my fleet. Enemy captures it and the LGV he gets is Live Oak/Strong Hull. Basically you can "Cycle" 1 durability ships untill they have the stats you want. We have only tested the "Stats change" with Endymion, Indefatigable and LGV. We plan on testing with a Buc as well to see if it works for bigger ships too. Which would be game breaking. Our theory is that one could take a Basic 1st rate and turn it into a Mastercraft 2x Regional Trim ship. (L'Ocean + 2x Strong Hull forexample)." Tommy Shelby to Ink (2). "We ended up checking with a Victory instead. It worked. See imgur link for details on stats etc.http://imgur.com/a/cdprA" ^ Check the Imgur link for more info. (Yes, we were testing other stuff but i'm not going to disclose what since it is very exploitable. Devs are aware of the other stuff we tested as well.) Edited January 20, 2017 by TommyShelby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEyedSnake Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Just now, TommyShelby said: It works. A mate and myself tested it extensively. The Developers are aware of the issue (We reported it with F11 but also in a private conversation). I can see if i still have Screenshots of it looks like grey to gold 1st rates are about to hit the server in large numbers. RIP. if there is one way to get things fixed, its to force the fix haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Death Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 In a port battle the other day, an enemy captured one of our allie's wapens. He put crew on it but forgot to tell it to retreat, in the last few seconds of the battle, I got over to it and captured it (had only 2 crew on it). When I looked at it, it was exactly the same as the free one, exceptional mahogany planking strong hull. I could not break down the durability (wanted some parts, instead will use it in fleet I guess). Don't know what is going on here. This is odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Updated my last comment with details and a Imgur Album so you can see exactly what i mean ^^ I hope this explains what happened to that Wappen Von Hamburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Texas Sir Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, [IGG] Willis PVP2 said: In a port battle the other day, an enemy captured one of our allie's wapens. He put crew on it but forgot to tell it to retreat, in the last few seconds of the battle, I got over to it and captured it (had only 2 crew on it). When I looked at it, it was exactly the same as the free one, exceptional mahogany planking strong hull. I could not break down the durability (wanted some parts, instead will use it in fleet I guess). Don't know what is going on here. This is odd. Yah I was thinking maybe cause it was a NPC made ship that it would do that. We have recapped many of our ships and never had the build change. We get 1st rates back all the time like this in battles that we might of lost other wise so we only loose the mods not the ship. Would be interesting to see the Devs response. Cause this could be a pain when doing things like this to get ships back. Since this is Tribunal section if it's found to be a bug please move it to the proper area so folks know about the bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eishen Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Not a valid tribunal topic, as @TommyShelby points is a known strange behaviour.. moving out of tribunal and modifying title to avoid flame war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Texas Sir Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 3 hours ago, OneEyedSnake said: looks like grey to gold 1st rates are about to hit the server in large numbers. RIP. if there is one way to get things fixed, its to force the fix haha Well now we know what to do with all them fine and other crappy built first rates we have captured lol Just joking folks just joking. Though could be a way to give them to others and hope they get better ones lol....wonder if it's only the NPC made ones that are in fleets than? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ink Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 A player can capture NPC Wappen von Hamburg and get random properties, this is not a bug or exploit. Perhaps random properties will be reworked in future but right now it is how mechanic works. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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