BungeeLemming Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 note: the merchant is a chapman design wich you find in his book. I can scan those if needed. But I think you own this book as well? (I think you once said that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I own the book called Flags At Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I like pretty much all these suggestions. I think it's important that any new ship in this class should be distinguished from Surprise somehow. Probably by being built in the mid 1700s, not flush-decked, with graceful lines, a raised quarterdeck, and rig typical of that era. The current lineup of ships is completely late 1700s/early 1800s. Anyways, I believe Chapman has a lot of good merchant vessels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 36 guns, Kongan af Danmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 a two deck frigate? do want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Le Glorie, french frigate, 38 guns Plans are in this book: http://www.amazon.com/LINE-BATTLE-Sailing-Warship-1650-1840/dp/0851779549/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7339388-6150428?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180430127&sr=1-1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Smith Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 As a merchant ship nice to have some flute since they very popular in Europe: Polish Fleuta: Czarny Kruk: http://www.model-shipyard.com/html/39.html As well Swedish East India ship: And 28 guns frigate HMS Mercury: http://www.model-shipyard.com/html/z06.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Le Jeux, 1689, 30 guns Plans to be found in a "book" - possible Sailing Ships of War 1400-1880 by Frank Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Unknown, 32 guns http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/tegn/A708.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 well that should be enough plans to keep the devs bussy for months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Brig Duke of Bedford http://www.modelships.de/Brig_Duke_of_Bedford/Photos_Brig_Duke%20_of_Bedford_1750.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 well that should be enough plans to keep the devs bussy for months LoL:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The last one for merchant ship: Batavia http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0vhyQjYMZaA/TRkGZU0uzLI/AAAAAAAAGKE/wPpvoTvB9-0/s1600/Batavia13.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe, just maybe, confine suggestions to the guidelines posted by devs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Smith Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Galeas - small coastal merchant ship popular in baltic and north sea: http://www.modelships.de/Galeas-Stettin/Photos-galeas-Stettin-close-views.htm And another nice flute - Derfflinger: http://www.modelships.de/Derfflinger_I/Gesamtansichten%20Derfflinger_I.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Willy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Really love the lines on the Le Glorie. Nice looking boat. Noticed the jib is at a 45% angle as most others seem to be more of a 30%. Reason for this? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Really love the lines on the Le Glorie. Nice looking boat. Noticed the jib is at a 45% angle as most others seem to be more of a 30%. Reason for this? Just curious You mean the bowsprit? Bowsprits were angled very steeply (steeved) for most of the 17th century and earlier, at 45% or more. After that, the angle steadily decreased, until you have almost-flat bowsprits in the 19th century. That's one way you can tell roughly what decade Le Glorie was built it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Willy Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Thanks that's it Sure hope they model the Le Glorie she's a sweet looking ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solothegod Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 hi I have as a gamer always loved historic romantic games that are realistic and in this 17centuary ship context you absolutely need some dutch republic ships i have list of ships from the dutch republic which be perfect for this game Batavia Duyfken 2 all round ships with 24 canons Halve Maen a stealth ship that is very stealthy with fewer cannons but faster and again stealthy Mauritius Prins Willem 2 war ships slow but many canons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAtomicEquinox Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I would like to see those as well solo. If you guys could add these it would be much appreciated. -Batavia -Duyfken -Halve Maen -Mauritius -Prins Willem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAtomicEquinox Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Here are some pics Halve Maen Mauritius Batavia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAtomicEquinox Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Batavia (VOC) A Dutch East India Company ship built in 1628 equipped with 24 cast-iron cannons. Mauritius (VOC) A Dutch East India Company ship in service from 1618-1622 with 16 cannons. Halve Maen (VOC) Also a Dutch East India Company ship that sailed into what is New York harbor today in 1609. Its a Fly boat built for speed as a merchant ship to carry goods. Its equipped with a simple 4 cannons. I would love to see some of these in the game. Can't wait to try it out! Sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia_(ship) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritius_(1618_ship) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halve_Maen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renhanxue Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 http://imgur.com/a/WfIoc The Swedish frigate HMS Enigheten ("unity"), drawn by naval architect Harald Sohlberg. Two sister-ships built in 1767 and 1769, later renamed af Trolle and Sprengtporten respectively. 24 guns; drawing says 8-pounders but it seems to have been upgunned when it entered service in the navy because the service record says 12-pounders. This drawing seems to be a copy; in the lower left corner there's a note that says "I certify that this is equal to the original -Fredrik Chapman", presumably in his own hand. The red stamp says (abbreviated) "Property of the navy's construction office". I have a few more photos and in higher resolution too but it's hard to photograph a drawing that's about a meter and a half long with just a handheld camera. I can arrange for real scans if you want, I'll even pay out of my own pocket for it, but only if you're actually intending to do something with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetworth Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'd like to recommend USS Boston, built in Newburyport Massachusetts in 1776. Severed in the Continental Navy as a 24 gun frigate. Participated the the capture of the frigate HMS Fox in June, 1777. Captured by the British in Charleston, South Carolina. Renamed HMS Charlestown and outfitted as a 28 gun frigate. Served with the Royal Navy until the end of the war when it was sold out of the service. http://www.navyandmarine.org/ondeck/uss_boston.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Boston_(1777) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Armstrong Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 ^thats the plan of the 24 gun hms boston of 1748, not the continental frigate(plans of which scholars have been unable to find) beautiful and unique find renhanxue, certainly looks to be chapman's hand, even if the original draught was drawn by another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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