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Turning Trim + Copper Plating Interaction

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Hi,

 

I recently applied copper plating and turning trim to my ship.

I expected the copper plating to negate the turning trims speed decrease but instead it seems to have made it worse.

 

The raw stats are as follows:

 

Copper Plate ( +2.5% )

Turning Trim ( -2.125% )

Base Speed: 12.39

Expected Speed Bonus: +0.05
Seen Speed Bonus: -0.50

 

I've attached a picture of the stats tooltip in game.

Is this a bug or is there something I'm not understanding?

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Do you have guns on you rhip? u know the guns influence on the speed value

^^It's gotta be that.

Take off all guns if you want to see what the numbers for the mods are.

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Oh wow you're right, when I take off all the guns I get +0.05, when I put them back on it's -0.50.

I had no idea they influenced speed to that much of an extent (or even at all ).

 

Thanks for the info!

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optimized rudder????? i am without words....

It would be great if you could find some words then.

The turning trim was a drop and I have no optimised rudders to work with.

 

For those who like words,

Max level turning trim provides 2.5% turning and -2.5% speed.

Max level optimised rudder provides 7.5% turning and -15% rudder half turn time ( no down side ).

 

So there is no reason to use turning trim over optimised rudder.

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It would be great if you could find some words then.

The turning trim was a drop and I have no optimised rudders to work with.

 

For those who like words,

Max level turning trim provides 2.5% turning and -2.5% speed.

Max level optimised rudder provides 7.5% turning and -15% rudder half turn time ( no down side ).

 

So there is no reason to use turning trim over optimised rudder.

What about using turning trim and optimized rudder? Anyone tried this out?

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It would be great if you could find some words then.

The turning trim was a drop and I have no optimised rudders to work with.

If you're on PVP1 and able to make your way to La Mona or Plymouth I can get you set up. It pains me to read you can't get the stuff you'd like. Bring cash to pay for the silver and I'll be happy to oblige.

I think the dood was being snarky. I agree with him in that you should never, like, never ever put something on a frigate that makes it go slower (I may live in sin slapping masts on some of mine. But, hey! Noone's perfect.)

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I'd make you a perfect trinco too if it wasn't for RNG-portclicking. It's very sad, but the best ships are all but reserved for an elite of portclickers and clanners. There is no shortage of golden stiffness, now is there?

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Hi, I'm currently on PVP2 in KPR with a pirate blockaid.

I really like this trinc and the guy who made it was nice enough to do it just for work hours!
Since that post i've aquired an excellent optimised rudder since I started up a silver mine and used silver coins to pay for it!

 

Thanks for the generous offer though!

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It would be great if you could find some words then.

The turning trim was a drop and I have no optimised rudders to work with.

 

For those who like words,

Max level turning trim provides 2.5% turning and -2.5% speed.

Max level optimised rudder provides 7.5% turning and -15% rudder half turn time ( no down side ).

 

So there is no reason to use turning trim over optimised rudder.

 

+ with turning trim your ship will heel like no tomorrow - enjoy the leaks. (same with speed trim, both increase the roll angle)

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+ with turning trim your ship will heel like no tomorrow - enjoy the leaks. (same with speed trim, both increase the roll angle)

 

So then you'll need an optimized ballast, lol.

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