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well there are allready some French ships in the Work and soon another british 64gun the Ingermanland build by russians in St. Petersburg based on britishplans.

i think there are like 5-7 ships total in WiP once they finished them they start working on the next bundle

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Really the Wasa?

How are we supposed to sail her?

She sank right away at her very first journey when she first encountered real winds outside the harbour..

 

Im sorry Im trolling you a bit but yeah why not.

 

A ship of the line of a dutch or swedish hand.

The dutch also prioritised low draft since they have very shallow coasts.

This lead to a very stump hull design wich obviously made them a lot more drifting to winds than their (74-)sisters.

 

 

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I will never realize that since I have no idea about the time in wich the Wasa sunk so stupibly.

point for you I guess :P

 

 

Not that wasa. You are thinking of the 1627 Wasa.

Im talking about the 1778 Wasa.

The 1778 Vasa was in service up to 1827.

 

 

So many great ships, not enough great 3d artists. Swedish ships really look very good. And thanks for the Rattlesnake hint.. lovely ship. Will put it on the list.

 

We actually worked with Axeonalias - creator of the LAurore and one of our frigates is based on that ship (it is not in game now) but you can see it on some old screens from last summer http://www.navalaction.com/blog/2013/7/21/summer-update  That frigate will come back soon (1-3 months). It needs  re optimizing for bigger battles. He also did Bellona for us (old version) but we wrecked it, and built a new one. As his version was too performance heavy and it was faster to make a new ship. 

 

We promised in the beginning of this year and we will make it happen. We plan to actively use community created content - we just need more time to finalize specs. With the onset of Unity 5 this could be further delayed, but not by much. 

 

 

There IS a way to balance 1627 Vasa and to model it's mechanics the way it would work ingame. Judging by what happened:

 

1. It would be unwieldy in side-winds, the stronger the worst and prone to heavy listing - to the point of problems with aiming.

 

1A. There should be special mechanics developed of closing bottom deck embrasures after certain degree of list and thus limiting its broadside by half - justified real life scenario to prevent flooding because of bad design.

 

2. Unwieldy in heavy sea states too, maybe with limiting broadside by half mechanics too? (reasonable irl)

 

3. If you want to cripple it even more, you can develop mechanics of automatic partial sail dropping in emergency scenarios when list becomes to heavy - but i don't think that much is needed.

 

So, it wouldn't be a hightier material: it's a heavy hitter definitely, but very limited and vulnerable without support. Almost one-trick pony probably but a ship to have, if only from PR reasons (and a beauty, too). I would advise to get to that asap, it will definitely bring more audience to the game.

 

Still, Swedes had more very interesting ships so i'd wait for those too (in due time).

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There IS a way to balance 1627 Vasa and to model it's mechanics the way it would work ingame. Judging by what happened:

 

1. It would be unwieldy in side-winds, the stronger the worst and prone to heavy listing - to the point of problems with aiming.

 

1A. There should be special mechanics developed of closing bottom deck embrasures after certain degree of list and thus limiting its broadside by half - justified real life scenario to prevent flooding because of bad design.

 

2. Unwieldy in heavy sea states too, maybe with limiting broadside by half mechanics too? (reasonable irl)

 

3. If you want to cripple it even more, you can develop mechanics of automatic partial sail dropping in emergency scenarios when list becomes to heavy - but i don't think that much is needed.

 

So, it wouldn't be a hightier material: it's a heavy hitter definitely, but very limited and vulnerable without support. Almost one-trick pony probably but a ship to have, if only from PR reasons (and a beauty, too). I would advise to get to that asap, it will definitely bring more audience to the game.

 

Still, Swedes had more very interesting ships so i'd wait for those too (in due time).

 

how about modelling the later sister ship wich got its hulllines changed so it doesnt capsize that easy.

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Any info on the Schooner and the Frigate that can be seen on the Naval Action's own page? (here: http://www.navalaction.com/#ageofsail ) Will they eventually join the alpha or are they completely left out?

 

If you read admin's post on Page 4, he adresses the Frigate specifically as "L'Aurore" by a very talented 3D modeller.  Once she's re-optimised, she'll be in game.  Which is shortly, hopefully.

 

As for the Schooner, no idea.  I still maintain it looks like the HMS Halifax.

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how about modelling the later sister ship wich got its hulllines changed so it doesnt capsize that easy.

 

 

Maybe that too, but it's not that "legendary" and having some serious drawbacks is the way to have it on low tiers.

 

I forgot about wide broadside previously - that is another one.

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I really want the Dutch ship De Zeven Provincien

 

The Dutch are the only navy that has a better win to loss ratio to the British navy (although they suffered more ships but less persons killed or injured).

 

The Dutch also beat England solidly in 2 of the 4 wars and lost the first and last only due to fleet size (especially the forth war) and land attacks from Spain and Britain (that had physically superior land armies).

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May i suggest the most beautiful ship that ever sailed? Its been suggested before i know but i have not seen any detailed pictures of her. I am of course talking about the Sophia Amalia.

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The Sophia Amalia was a ship of the Royal Dano-Norwegian Navy named after Sophia Amalia, the wife of King Frederick III. The ship was built at Hovedøen in Christiania under the direction of English shipbuilder James Robbins and was launched in 1650. She was 51.8 meters long and at that time one of the largest naval vessels in the world. She was commissioned by King Christian IV specifically to surpass the British shipHMS Sovereign of the Seas. The ship was manned by a crew of 680 and had an armament of 108 guns, surpassing Sovereign of the Seas by eight guns.

 

You are able to find more detailed pictures of her but sadly they are too big to upload.

 

 

 

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To make more diversity i recomend some "rare" ships:

http://freeshipplans.com/free-model-ship-plans/sall-sail-ship-plans/ottoman-coastal-trade-ship/

Spanish "Manilla Galleons" type armed vessel with 500 tons of cargo space crusing from Manilla to Acapulco:

http://www.modelnet.pl/products/96/p/1046

HMS Endeavour exploration ship of James Cook:

http://www.modelnet.pl/all_products/10/p/1497

Merchant brig Portsmouth:

http://www.modelnet.pl/all_products/10/p/1109

Medterrain Polacca type vessel used by Venzia to protect Adriatic trade routes also carry some cargo:

http://www.modelnet.pl/all_products/10/p/1227

Coastal 12 guns ship used to fight smugglers :

http://www.modelnet.pl/all_products/10/p/597

HMS Supply - scouting ship during first transport of prisioners to Australia

http://www.modelnet.pl/all_products/10/p/520

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