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'Ville de Paris' French 1-Rate, 120 Guns 1850

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You´re sure the plans are for the Ville de Paris? They look pretty russian to me ;)

yeah

 

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lower deck: 32 36-pounder guns
middle deck: 34 24-pounder guns
upper deck: 34 18-pounder guns
forecastle: 18 8-pounder guns, 6 36-pounder carronades

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That´s the Ville de Paris launched in 1850, not the one which participated in the American Revolutionary War.

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That´s the Ville de Paris launched in 1850, not the one which participated in the American Revolutionary War.

plan says 1847, so yeah. Not sure if this would be a good match to Santi. if allowed in the game. She looks somewhat similar to her older British sister HMS Ville de Paris from 1788, but much more modern bow and stern:

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Original name: le Marengo

Laid down in 1807

Launched in October 05 1850 (!)

Struck of lists in 1882

Plans by J.-N. Sané (general plan type of the 118-gun)

Built by Rigault, Chaumont, Hubert Bonnet-Lescure, Clarke, du Chalard, de Lisleferme, Rossin and d'Eglantine.

Place of building: Rochefort

Other names : Ville de Vienne 1807, Comte d'Artois 1814 and Ville de Paris 1830

Data:

Length x breadth x depht in hold

196'6" x 50' x 25' (Pied du roi)

Deplacement: 5 260

Artillery of origin (1806 type):

1st deck - 2nd deck - 3rd deck - F'c'sl/Q'deck

32x36-pdr - 34x24-pdr - 34x18-pdr - 14x8-pdr + 12 carronades of 32-pdr

total: 126

The first photos is le Compte d'Artois (1814).

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2100-la-taverne-du-corsaire/?p=83193

Same type of the vessel:

Le Louis XVI (french post)

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2100-la-taverne-du-corsaire/?p=88150

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2100-la-taverne-du-corsaire/?p=88233

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Original name: le Marengo

Laid down in 1807

Launched in October 05 1850 (!)

Struck of lists in 1882

Plans by J.-N. Sané (general plan type of the 118-gun)

Built by Rigault, Chaumont, Hubert Bonnet-Lescure, Clarke, du Chalard, de Lisleferme, Rossin and d'Eglantine.

Place of building: Rochefort

Other names : Ville de Vienne 1807, Comte d'Artois 1814 and Ville de Paris 1830

Data:

Length x breadth x depht in hold

196'6" x 50' x 25' (Pied du roi)

Deplacement: 5 260

Artillery of origin (1806 type):

1st deck - 2nd deck - 3rd deck - F'c'sl/Q'deck

32x36-pdr - 34x24-pdr - 34x18-pdr - 14x8-pdr + 12 carronades of 32-pdr

total: 126

The first photos is le Compte d'Artois (1814).

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2100-la-taverne-du-corsaire/?p=83193

Same type of the vessel:

Le Louis XVI (french post)

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2100-la-taverne-du-corsaire/?p=88150

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2100-la-taverne-du-corsaire/?p=88233

So, what ship is on my plans? It says Paris in Russian year 1847.

 

This looks similar, but it is Hercule class:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Tage

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Nice looking ship but why another first rate for the next ship vote? Don't we have enough for now? More frigates!

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Nice looking ship but why another first rate for the next ship vote? Don't we have enough for now? More frigates!

We are collecting everything we can for future needs.

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L'Hercules class (2d rank of 100-gun) has nothing to do with the ships of Sané!

L'Hercules, as le Tage and the 13 other ships are from a new type of plan that comes to la Commission de Paris of 1824.

Those are completely different of Sane-Bordas vessels.

I do not know what it is that Russian plans ...

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Man she is an ugly slab-sided beast....  its like if you asked a 4-year old to draw a sailing ship.

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Man she is an ugly slab-sided beast.... its like if you asked a 4-year old to draw a sailing ship.

She doesn't look as ugly as the Valmy. Still has some curvature in the waist. :P

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Man she is an ugly slab-sided beast....  its like if you asked a 4-year old to draw a sailing ship.

 

I guess the North Carolina is out of the question for you or any post 1810 ship. :wacko:

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The design of the vessels of the CdP (Commission de Paris) is unloved by sailors. They find that these ships like the soapbox ...

As we say today, it was better before!

Except that these vessels are not there to please the sailors, not to be nice. Now we think "war, force, and pragmatism". No more old sculpture and large figureheads.

Difference between the 80 and 118-gun by Sané-Borda and the 90 and 120-gun by the CdP 1824.

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So, what ship is on my plans? It says Paris in Russian year 1847.

It's "Paris", the same class as "12 Apostles". And looks like you already posted it:http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7499-twelve-apostles-russian-1st-rate-1847/

The ship in the title is this: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=24661

The ship in the plans is this: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10516

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It's "Paris", the same class as "12 Apostles". And looks like you already posted it:http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7499-twelve-apostles-russian-1st-rate-1847/

The ship in the title is this: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=24661

The ship in the plans is this: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10516

Thanks for clarifying it. From digging old ships we find new ones. 

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