[PvP1] France joins the war against Sweden

[Hethwill 12,083]

A real cutie

[Nalyd 79]

ONE SHIP Eric...it was ONE SHIP that Drunk catpured from the French after we joined the council. And from my informations you also got a new St. Pavel from a Swedish player for it. There was no other activity from Drunk in the french waters beside that ONE ship.

 

And who cares about complaining? There was no down written stuff about "no Pvp", and since this is a PvP Sandbox game, i dont see anything that Drunk made wrong.

 

And then YOU and the other diplomate came in and DEMANDED us to change our Clan name.

 

And what about the DRUNK's players that went and helped the british screening fleet when they had Aves and when we were trying to give basse-terre to the Danes to help us out ? 

 

 

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This Screen was taken the 04/29 so basically during the conflict with the British still at Aves trying to get a foothold on the french territories from there.

And we were informed just a few hours prior to this screen to not attack DRUNK anymore because they "changed". So much for that.

[Kloothommel 2,316]

I don't believe a word from DRUNK.

 

When did Drunksloth switch back to Brittain again?

Shows enough about their alliegance.

[Nonolem 19]

I have heard rumours about British traders (players) being attacked by Swedish players in Costa Rica. I don't know if this is true, but it won't surprise me... Swedish reputation is so low on our side. It seems to me that Sweden is the real pirate nation in this game...

 

And if this is true, Brits, deal with your new friend.

 

aka SlipEnTitane

[PIerrick de Badas 1,271]

i suggest you to change your name as it is hated by french and would decrease the tension between your group of player and the french. I told you the french clan LMO change his name after the departure on his leader for the same reason to not be hated by swedish.

I thought it was something smart but it seems you take it as an insult. It was not, just a suggestion. You refuse it and this history was over, your are master of your choice.

[Bommel 202]

I have heard rumours about British traders (players) being attacked by Swedish players in Costa Rica. I don't know if this is true, but it won't surprise me... Swedish reputation is so low on our side. It seems to me that Sweden is the real pirate nation in this game...

 

And if this is true, Brits, deal with your new friend.

 

aka SlipEnTitane

I heard rumors that DRUNK clan only consists of bugged NPCs...

[Nonolem 19]

I heard rumors that DRUNK clan only consists of bugged NPCs...

 

This could explain a lot.

[Wille Wilse 1]

It seems to me that Sweden is the real pirate nation in this game...

 

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aka SlipEnTitane

 

I think you should think twice before making such a statement. The alleged doings from one clan isn't per se the doings of an entire nation. 

[Bommel 202]

Don´t worry Wille Wilse, spreading such rumors isn´t hurting at all. 

Every nation has at least a few players that do not agree on what the councils decide/agree on.

A few french players attacked our traders, and a few danes did so too. No big deal for me, anyone who judges a nation based on the actions of a few or single players is simply not worth getting angry about.

[Sven Silberbart 901]

I am waiting sooo much for the diplomacy update to bring such discussions to an end.

[Kloothommel 2,316]

The alleged doings from one clan isn't per se the doings of an entire nation. 

 

 

No big deal for me, anyone who judges a nation based on the actions of a few or single players is simply not worth getting angry about.

 

And how does this logic fit into the alleged "some players" handing Roadtown to pirates?

 

Check and mate.

[Bommel 202]

There is a huge difference between handling over a port to our enemies or attacking some players. 

Did we declare war against you because of that? No!

We simply took that pirate port and intercepted the flag because we couldn´t be sure if it wasn´t said clan/players that handed the port to the pirates.

 

And if you say Ironeagle was not a RUS member before I trust you with that, I simply was told he was member of RUS before. And it was said (count that as rumor because there was no hard evidence) that RUS gave it to them because they have a strong relationship with the russian pirates.

We simply needed to secure our homewater from pirates and their "staging" point.

 

And I was not involved in all that diplo stuff.

 

Bottom line: we are at war now and playing the game has never been that interesting before. You have a lot more player driven content/events now, and so do we.

[Hethwill 12,083]

The latest issue of the International Free Press attributes the current conflict in the East as a by product of the Peace Treaty signed by Dutch and Swedish after the Swedish-Dutch war, which came to a standstill.

 

Interesting enough the same article points out that agents and spies from the Soda Can group instigated the present conflict not envisioning the welfare of Sweden but the expansion of their own power.

 

At the end of the article the spokeperson of the study group which follows the situation in the Caribbean quoted - "The Roadtown incident was never a reason more than an excuse to shift attention from the truth. It was more a statement than a real threat."

 

The magazine also had some other very nice articles but this one was quite nice to read.

[Nostra 4]

The latest issue of the International Free Press attributes the current conflict in the East as a by product of the Peace Treaty signed by Dutch and Swedish after the Swedish-Dutch war, which came to a standstill.

 

Interesting enough the same article points out that agents and spies from the Soda Can group instigated the present conflict not envisioning the welfare of Sweden but the expansion of their own power.

 

At the end of the article the spokeperson of the study group which follows the situation in the Caribbean quoted - "The Roadtown incident was never a reason more than an excuse to shift attention from the truth. It was more a statement than a real threat."

 

The magazine also had some other very nice articles but this one was quite nice to read.

 

I would love a copy of that

[Kloothommel 2,316]

I would love a copy of that

Same!

[Kloothommel 2,316]

There is a huge difference between handling over a port to our enemies or attacking some players. 

Did we declare war against you because of that? No!

We simply took that pirate port and intercepted the flag because we couldn´t be sure if it wasn´t said clan/players that handed the port to the pirates.

 

And if you say Ironeagle was not a RUS member before I trust you with that, I simply was told he was member of RUS before. And it was said (count that as rumor because there was no hard evidence) that RUS gave it to them because they have a strong relationship with the russian pirates.

 

As a former clanmate of Ironeagel in Vikings I can attest to the fact he in Vikings, not in RUS when the Roadtown incident took place. 

 

Ironeagel had all reason to buy a flag to retake the port. he had production there and spare Santissimas. Sounds like enough reasons to want to retake?

Everybody in D-N wanted the pirates out, me included. As a matter of fact I would have bought the flag if he didn't beat me to it by 5 minutes.

A friend of mine was in the Sverige TS channel for the swedish screening fleet and he was ordered to take out the D-N flag. Not by the normal commander but by another guy screaming to intercept the flag. Ask for Weitsicht in Sverige for a full account of this situation.

 

Sweden was warmongering and got it's way. Too bad the Dutch got strongarmed into this. The fact Sweden now has outposts in Panama show they planned this and used it to their benefit.

[Bommel 202]

The brits gave us those ports so we could still have resources to defend our homewaters and this was not planned, ask Weitsicht about it.

We had a friendly relation towards the brits before you declared war on us, but we are not their vassals and they do not command us.

 

 

 

A friend of mine was in the Sverige TS channel for the swedish screening fleet and he was ordered to take out the D-N flag. Not by the normal commander but by another guy screaming to intercept the flag. Ask for Weitsicht in Sverige for a full account of this situation

 I was in the TS aswell and there was not a single commander (there was one guy in charge of the PB fleet!), we were split in different Groups (screening groups and the main Port Battle Group in the same channel) and none of us said we shouldn´t intercept the flag. Some guys asked if we should intercept it and everyone enthusiasticly agreed on intercepting it. We communicated and had to react/decide fast.

And yes you can call it screaming because all of us were really pushed by the fact that we actually managed to gather 70 swedes and going after the same goal! We wanted to take the pirate port! It was a much needed boost in morale!

Call it warmongering, I say we finally wanted to achieve a goal as one Nation!

We did not want that war! We surely wanted to give a statement (deep down inside of us) that we want to play this game aswell and not rely on the generosity of our much bigger neighbours. We wanted to be respected as a real nation.

And now we managed to stay united and arranged ourselves with the situation. We were also lucky to get the exile ports offered by the brits!

 

Can you really blame us for this? Would you really have acted in a different way if you were in our situtation? 

 

We are at war with you and you "forced" your allies into it (defensive treaty I guess), and we are dealing with the situation. And made us stronger and much more united than ever before.

 

 

PS: I do feel very sorry for all the PVP3 players that were "merged" into this situation, they have to deal with a war they never had any influence in. But you can not expect us to let both of you take all our ports (second time now!) and then not fight back while we are still at war!

 

I think you could really respect this.

[Quineloe 1,337]

It seems the cannons have spoken today.

[Kloothommel 2,316]

Well, seems you need a patch to win wars... have fun while it lasts.

[Quineloe 1,337]

are you still unaware this is an alpha test version we're playing?

[Kloothommel 2,316]

The brits gave us those ports so we could still have resources to defend our homewaters and this was not planned, ask Weitsicht about it.

We had a friendly relation towards the brits before you declared war on us, but we are not their vassals and they do not command us.

 

 I was in the TS aswell and there was not a single commander (there was one guy in charge of the PB fleet!), we were split in different Groups (screening groups and the main Port Battle Group in the same channel) and none of us said we shouldn´t intercept the flag. Some guys asked if we should intercept it and everyone enthusiasticly agreed on intercepting it. We communicated and had to react/decide fast.

And yes you can call it screaming because all of us were really pushed by the fact that we actually managed to gather 70 swedes and going after the same goal! We wanted to take the pirate port! It was a much needed boost in morale!

Call it warmongering, I say we finally wanted to achieve a goal as one Nation!

We did not want that war! We surely wanted to give a statement (deep down inside of us) that we want to play this game aswell and not rely on the generosity of our much bigger neighbours. We wanted to be respected as a real nation.

And now we managed to stay united and arranged ourselves with the situation. We were also lucky to get the exile ports offered by the brits!

 

Can you really blame us for this? Would you really have acted in a different way if you were in our situtation? 

 

We are at war with you and you "forced" your allies into it (defensive treaty I guess), and we are dealing with the situation. And made us stronger and much more united than ever before.

 

 

PS: I do feel very sorry for all the PVP3 players that were "merged" into this situation, they have to deal with a war they never had any influence in. But you can not expect us to let both of you take all our ports (second time now!) and then not fight back while we are still at war!

 

I think you could really respect this.

 

The point is that the patch screwed things over and made it more zerg than ever before. It takes the fun out of this war and today proved it. Zerg zerg zerg untill you win. 

 

 

are you still unaware this is an alpha test version we're playing?

I am aware. So keep your swedish salt in your ikea's

Edited May 22, 2016 by Kloothommel

[Quineloe 1,337]

why would there be swedish salt. You're the one crying over the patch ruining your world domination.

[Bommel 202]

The point is that the patch screwed things over and made it more zerg than ever before. It takes the fun out of this war and today proved it. Zerg zerg zerg untill you win. 

 

 

The patch made us stronger (compared to our abilities pre-patch) since we could never compete against you with a 1st rate fleet. You guys are way more experienced in 1st rate port battles and also have a better economy to provide your main fleet with 1st rates.

The merge also gave us more players, not sure how much new players you gained from it though. But I don´t see a zerg problem caused by the patch. Player numbers allready mattered alot before this patch. Whoever can bring more numbers has a huge advantage.

[Kloothommel 2,316]

why would there be swedish salt. You're the one crying over the patch ruining your world domination.

I never spoke of world domination, I'm just saying zerg wins.

[Belize 61]

Well, seems you need a patch to win wars... have fun while it lasts.

 

Seems you need 25 Santi fleets to win PBs...

 

You are MORE salty because your "Our response shall be swift and hard and with the goal to put the Swedish nation back to Gustavia and under a blockade." Didnt Worked like you wanted...

 

You and France attacked us and hold us down to 2-3 Ports in the homewaters, and after we striked back yesterday we are now Zergers...sure.

Edited May 23, 2016 by Belize