Termagoon Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 In the PB at Pampatar we just had 25 guys. But only two 3rds. But atleast 6 3rd rates outside screening for you give me your frigate fleet, I will put them into good use lol, not that I asked at Sunday if we are needed anywhere and only got told that our 3rd rates are totally useless for Portbattles... Neverless we went to the action and splittet the swedish Attackfleet, preventing a few swedes to get into the Portbattle. Meanwhile I was sitting at the entry-channel of the Polish TS and nobody moved me to a propper channel or answered my ingame tells... So as Manta stated, we almost always have someone in the Nation-Teamspeak and are ready for a good fight if we are in the area. But if everytime we ask where we can help we get no response or just got told that we are useless in our ships we will just continue to search for some fights on ourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furyGer Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 As an European I respect this act of memory for Belgium. So let's stop this war for a day. And perhaps we will find a diplomatic solution at all...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dala Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 the dutch already made it known that the war wont stop. they backed down from it themselfs. they probably think they got a chance now that they won against undefended ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otsego Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Yes i also think this war is useless, we should stop it asap so everyone can get back to do missions. This pvp-stuff and rvr is so boring and NPCs are way more skilled than swedes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 the dutch already made it known that the war wont stop. they backed down from it themselfs. they probably think they got a chance now that they won against undefended ports Giving the line of posts being written can you please step back a bit away from the game ? Just a bit. Please. We all appreciate. More so the many Belgian citizens that surely play this game in ALL the Naval Action Nations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manta Scorpion Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) the dutch already made it known that the war wont stop. they backed down from it themselfs. they probably think they got a chance now that they won against undefended ports Nice statement, may we met in even groups once, so you can back it up some win pb that arent defended, some just win because they grinded for high rates, everyone has his flawsI highly respect the events of the day and feel with you, the one day off pb is fix, now pls let it again. It is tratic, if you walk around in a city even like Bern, everything is full with heavy armed police, we get reminded enough of this during the day and night Edited March 22, 2016 by Manta Scorpion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo van Grojt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 the dutch already made it known that the war wont stop. they backed down from it themselfs. they probably think they got a chance now that they won against undefended ports This has nothing to do with "the Dutch", or with diplomacy or with council meetings, Jesus ..... This is the callout from player to player of Naval Action. I do not care what councils or diplomatic talks bring in this regard - I PERSONALLY will respect my fellow Belgian players and will not participate in an offensive or defensive port battle tonight. And so will other Dutch players. Feel free to exploit this fact or not to - that is your personal choice as a player and human being. Thank you for the kind words on our Teamspeak, Sveno and Zpliff and for your willingness to suspend this pixel war for just one night in light of the horrible tragedy. Whatever happens with the "diplomats" and "leaders", private citizen Hugo and many other Dutch private citizens stand by our word to not engage in any offensive or defensive port battle tonight. Sincerely Yours, Hugo van Grojt 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnydread Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) While my condolences go out to the victims and families of the victims of this cowardly attack and i respect the fairplay on both sides of this digital war, i seriously think stopping PB, even for a single day, is a mistake. The goal of the terrorists is to stop the public life and yes, PvP in NA is a part of the public life. During Portbattles, people from the Netherlands, Belgium, Poland and Germany came together on the Dutch-Nation-TS and tried to work together in a constructive way. Call that trivial, but for me it is the essence of the european spirit, the proof that the borders and barriers born from the spilled blood of our grandfathers are torn down, that the shadows of the horrible atrocities their generation comitted and endured finally don't hang over our heads anymore. The barbarians of the IS want to destroy our way of life, our freedom and our friendship. And while they can kill us, our families and our friends, they can't force us to change how we live and what we do. If we change our behaviour we help them in their work. Don't let them win! Don't change your way of life, even if it is just a trivial matter in a small computer game. Edited March 22, 2016 by Jonnydread 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 This has nothing to do with "the Dutch", or with diplomacy or with council meetings, Jesus ..... This is the callout from player to player of Naval Action. I do not care what councils or diplomatic talks bring in this regard - I PERSONALLY will respect my fellow Belgian players and will not participate in an offensive or defensive port battle tonight. And so will other Dutch players. Feel free to exploit this fact or not to - that is your personal choice as a player and human being. I struggle to see how it is in any way exploitative if we're willing to suspend PBs while the dutch are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo van Grojt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I struggle to see how it is in any way exploitative if we're willing to suspend PBs while the dutch are not. It is not, you misundersand me. The Dutch citizens such as myself and most other active PvP captains are perfectly willing to suspend port battles and have, in fact, first requested the ceasefire of our own accord. It is our leaders and diplomats who want to have their say. There needs to be a council meeting they say. This needs to be decided by leadership, they say. I say it doesn't. This ceasefire has nothing to do with ingame strategy, ingame politics or any of that. Let's just give our Belgian players a chance to process what is happening - we don't need council decisions or diplomatic roundtables for that. We just need to do it. (German saying: "Stell Dir vor es ist Krieg - und keiner geht hin" Imagine there is war and nobody shows up) I would call it exploitative (of the situation, not the game) to engage in offensive port battles against Dutch ports, while the citizenry of the Dutch nation have announced that they will let the war rest tonight. And I would call BS on the argument "the Dutch themselves cancelled the ceasefire" as the excuse to do so. The Dutch citizens have not cancelled the ceasefire, the "leaders" and "diplomats" just have not made up their mind. By all means, defend your ports if some Dutch players decide to wage war regardless of the tragedy. But Hugo and the other people sympathetic to our fellow Belgian players will not fight tonight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilgar Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Seizing hostilities for at least one day on the Dutch-Swedish front is a sensible proposal indeed. Goedgekeurd! Approuvé! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sveno Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 For context reason, i repost what i posted in the Belgian thread: --------------------------- First- our condolences to all Belgians. We do feel for you guys in this hour.as a background, Sweden agreed to a 24 hour ceasefire requested by dutch diplomats, which was canceled in only 30 minutes later by the dutch. No hard feelings from us, we understand that making decisions in a game is not priority for many people right now.If there is no ceasefire, as Steelsandwich says in another thread just now:"With all due respect, there are ways to show your commitment, having an in-game cease fire might not be the best course of action."This means there is a war, and we will wage war with all means.Let me underscore that we are at any time ready to discuss both a ceasefire, and a generous peace with the dutch whenever they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otsego Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I am not an official spokesman of the dutch but war is over when one nation is down to 1 harbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo van Grojt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Sigh .... the glorious leaders have spoken. Enjoy your pixel war tonight, if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dala Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I am not an official spokesman of the dutch but war is over when one nation is down to 1 harbour. ye, that sounds like really healthy pvp. one nation gets reduced to nothing just becuse some ppl take this game personal or something, creating some vendetta... rather silly really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manta Scorpion Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 ye, that sounds like really healthy pvp. one nation gets reduced to nothing just becuse some ppl take this game personal or something, creating some vendetta... rather silly Healthy pvp is something that noone here wants, that would be even fights. That way, you have at least something to fight for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 For context reason, i repost what i posted in the Belgian thread: --------------------------- First- our condolences to all Belgians. We do feel for you guys in this hour. as a background, Sweden agreed to a 24 hour ceasefire requested by dutch diplomats, which was canceled in only 30 minutes later by the dutch. No hard feelings from us, we understand that making decisions in a game is not priority for many people right now. If there is no ceasefire, as Steelsandwich says in another thread just now: "With all due respect, there are ways to show your commitment, having an in-game cease fire might not be the best course of action." This means there is a war, and we will wage war with all means. Let me underscore that we are at any time ready to discuss both a ceasefire, and a generous peace with the dutch whenever they want to. Thanks for closing all the ports It is indeed the best course of action. Shows the commitment to a cease fire and honours the will to fight of all your captains and by all means necessary, take advantage of all the possibilities the game gives you. Salute and really hope you don't get steam rolled out of the blue again during the non EU prime times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyBaer Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) I am not an official spokesman of the dutch but war is over when one nation is down to 1 harbour. Somebody promote this guy ! Can anybody explain me true orgin of this conflict? without RP crap talk. I heard rumors and thats why im asking here... Better late than never I suppose... (RP crap talk included) The Dutch had secured a forward base at Terre-de-Bas which sent a very clear message that it was there intention to attack the crown of Sweden. Through the diplomatic channels they sent word to the King of Sweden that they were only there as a defensive measure as they felt threatened. The King was not fooled and dispatched his fleets to the Plymouth and Saint John areas. Their scouts, some in 3rd rates, began probing the southern flank of Swedish Sovereign territory and were shocked at the number and depth of the Swedish fleets. Their scouts and patrols were chased back and sunk mercilessly. The Dutch abandoned their plans of conquest and so lost Terre-de-Bas a short time later. The King was so informed that the Swedish economy was crippled and that the Live Oak and Silver needed to secure the homeland was in short supply or non existent. The King is his wisdom did not want an opportunity to slip away and given the Dutch hostilities decided to carefully embark on a conquest of the Dutch ports to liberate the needed materials for Sweden and to show the world that in fact Sweden was a Naval Power to be respected. With the tireless work of his commanders, advisors, and diplomats the objectives of the King are being realized. From the Swedish perspective... Edited March 24, 2016 by CrazyBaer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytse Pier Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Somebody promote this guy ! Better late than never I suppose... (RP crap talk included) The Dutch had secured a forward base at Terre-de-Bas which sent a very clear message that it was there intention to attack the crown of Sweden. Through the diplomatic channels they sent word to the King of Sweden that they were only there as a defensive measure as they felt threatened. The King was not fooled and dispatched his fleets to the Plymouth and Saint John areas. Their scouts, some in 3rd rates, began probing the southern flank of Swedish Sovereign territory and were shocked at the number and depth of the Swedish fleets. Their scouts and patrols were chased back and sunk mercilessly. The Dutch abandoned their plans of conquest and so lost Terre-de-Bas a short time later. The King was so informed that the Swedish economy was crippled and that the Live Oak and Silver needed to secure the homeland was in short supply or non existent. The King is his wisdom did not want an opportunity to slip away and given the Dutch hostilities decided to carefully embark on a conquest of the Dutch ports to liberate the needed materials for Sweden and to show the world that in fact Sweden was a Naval Power to be respected. With the tireless work of his commanders, advisors, and diplomats the objectives of the King are being realized. From the Swedish perspective... Edited March 24, 2016 by Lytse Pier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eklipz Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Resistance is futile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebediah Kerman Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Things are getting interesting now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonar Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I need to congratulate the Dutch to a beautiful assembled attack, with all honesty.It was awesomely done, awesome work and made it an awesome day. Thank you. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytse Pier Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Testing the waters, learning every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileus Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Testing the waters, learning every day. It's only a matter of time now... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackTerror Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Battle summary Thursday 24/03 Swe V Dutch (6-3) Dutch attack on Macanao, PB def wins Dutch attack on St:George, def wins Dutch attack on Oranjestad, PB def wins Dutch attack on Charlestown, def wins Dutch attack on English Harbour def wins Dutch attack on Basseterre, def wins Swe attack on Las Aves, def wins Swe attack on Caracas PB, def wins Swe attack on Rio Chico , def wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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