Vaz Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) *Be aware this list is most likely not up to date! I need people to comment on their sightings in missions!* HiJust thought i would make a new, and updated thread regarding what types of AI ships you will encounter in different types of missions. Original Thread: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/10266-ship-types-per-mission/ Please comment what types of ships you meet in missions, i will do my best to keep this post updated! Below is a list of available crew for each rank, so it's easier to check up on your own rank if uncertain. Rank 1 - Max crew of 40 - Required XP 0 total Rank 2 - Max crew of 60 - Required XP 500 total Rank 3 - Max crew of 120 - Required XP 1000 total Rank 4 - Max crew of 150 - Required XP 1500 total Rank 5 - Max crew of 200 - Required XP 3000 total Rank 6 - Max crew of 250 - Required XP 5000 total Rank 7 - Max crew of 350 - Required XP 10000 total Rank 8 - Max crew of 650 - Required XP 20000 total Rank 9 - Max crew of 800 - Required XP 40000 total Rank 10 - Max crew of 1100 - Required XP 80000 total Rank 1 (Somewhat Outdated) Lynx Cutter Privateer Pickle Rank 2 (Somewhat Outdated) Cutter Pickle Privateer Rank 3 (Somewhat Outdated) Brig Snow Privateer Two Cutters Two Pickles Navy Brig Mercury Rattlesnake Any combination of the above Rank 4 (Somewhat Outdated) Brig NavyBrig Snow Mercury Pickle Two Pickles Rattlesnake Combination of the above Rank 5 (Somewhat Outdated) Cerberus NavyBrig Snow & Mercury Two Snows Two Brigs NavyBrig & Brig NavyBrig & Snow Niagara Renomme Combination of the above Rank 6 (Somewhat Outdated) Renomme Cerberus & NavyBrig Cerberus & Mercury Two NavyBrigs Surprise Two Mercury Navy Brig & Niagara Frigate Combination of the above Rank 7 (Somewhat Outdated) Belle Poule Surprise Two Renomme Two Cerberus Surprise & Cerberus Frigate Surprise & Renomme Trincomalee Essex Two Niagara Combination of the above Rank 8 (Somewhat Outdated) 3rd Rate Two Constitutions Pavel Constitution & Ingermanland Bellona Constitution Two Ingermanland Rank 9 (Somewhat Outdated) Two Constitutions Pavel Constitution & Ingermanland Bellona Two Constitution Two Ingermanland 3rd Rate Rank 10 (Somewhat Outdated) Pavel Victory Two Bellona Pavel Two 3rd Rates Fleet Missions Fleet missions seems to spawn enemy AI to a specific BR, which seems to slightly surpass the allied fleet, including the player ship. So if you bring a Big ship to a lower lvl fleet mission, you get less allied AI ships. The ships seems to be picked from all ranks up to the fleet level mission you chose. I need more information on this. Edit up to: Rychu Karas Edit up to: elite92 Edit up to: ahabse7en Edit: Added a table of the different ranks Edit: Updated ranks chart Edit: Updated up to Sigurd Sigurdsson Edit: Updated up to Seamist Edit: Updated up to Haibeo Edit: Updated up to Spam Hands Edit: Updated up to Seamist Edit: Updated up to Richardphat Edit: Updated up to Idle Champion Edited August 24, 2016 by Vaz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rychu Karas Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Rank 8, there are only 3ds and double consti, i never met single consti. BTW in my opinion 2x consti at this lvl is way to hard. I am able to kill 3rd using caroTrinco, but 2x consti are beyond any possibility to kill even when i try use consti. Edited March 2, 2016 by Rychu Karas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elite92 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 rank 9 is equal to rank 8 mission: 1 3rd rate or 1 3rd rate and 1 conni. (im rank 9) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Roberts Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Rank 9 and 10 don't spawn 2 3rd rates.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaz Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Rank 9 and 10 don't spawn 2 3rd rates.. Ok, seems to be old info, what do they spawn then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahabse7en Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I think rank 7 also has a Surprise with a Renomme. Rank 8, there are only 3ds and double consti, i never met single consti.BTW in my opinion 2x consti at this lvl is way to hard. I am able to kill 3rd using caroTrinco, but 2x consti are beyond any possibility to kill even when i try use consti. I agree, two connies are way too hard. It is possible though. I have managed to do it if only a couple of times (in a Constitution) after many attempts. I usually end up turning tail and running. But in my opinion, at this level, a single connie would be too easy. Maybe two trincos could be an alternative? Although that wouldn't be a walk in the park either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaz Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 If people would please post their encounters with enemy AI ships in different missions, it would be lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 we want to disable bot capture so we can add full variety for ships and OW events (solo, group and epic) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 we want to disable bot capture so we can add full variety for ships and OW events (solo, group and epic) Epic open world events. You mean something like 24 Players vs 23 NPCs + Boss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaz Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 we want to disable bot capture so we can add full variety for ships and OW events (solo, group and epic) Very intriguing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Rice Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 we want to disable bot capture so we can add full variety for ships and OW events (solo, group and epic) Oh i had this ideal a long time ago.....i hope they do something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortdelol Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 IA ships are too strong actually, they never miss their shot, you don't have any chance of mistakes, 1 mistake, you sink like a shit. Even with a SNOW against a CUTTER, you'll finish the battle with only 25% of your full health and 5 leaks (Minimum) Sorry but ... ITS NOT REALISTIC !! For a simulation, it's shit ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunhilde Serenity Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I've encountered Privateer in Rank 1, and Navy Brig in Rank 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMist Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Rank 3 while retesting New AI. A Mercury! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMist Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Rank 3 Brig and a privateer. I just made for the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preserved Killick Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'd love to see an update to this thread post-patch. I just pulled a solo rear admiral mission ("orders," not "fleet orders"), and it spawned a ludicrous number of ships of the line for me to fight solo. Roughly (from memory) four Pavels, two Bellonas, three 3rd Rates, and five Ingermanlands. Previously, these missions spawned two 3rd Rates. Was this a bug or have they increased the BR in these missions by more than 1000%? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaz Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'd love to see an update to this thread post-patch. I just pulled a solo rear admiral mission ("orders," not "fleet orders"), and it spawned a ludicrous number of ships of the line for me to fight solo. Roughly (from memory) four Pavels, two Bellonas, three 3rd Rates, and five Ingermanlands. Previously, these missions spawned two 3rd Rates. Was this a bug or have they increased the BR in these missions by more than 1000%? This is exactly why i need people to comment on the AI they meet in their missions, i only have what people tell me, and what i see for my self during my missions, and i am a casual player, so i don't do that many missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haibeo Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Well, then I will fill what I known so far. Rank 7 Fleet Mission have a chance of spawning: Niagara, Cerberus, Renommee, Surprise, Frigate, Belle Poule and Trincomalee. Rank 8 Solo Mission (only tried this once): Pavel x1 Rank 8 Fleet Mission have chance of spawning: Constitution, Ingermanland, 3rd rate, Bellona(?), Pavel That all I known since after the update. I assume that what ever you meet at fleet order you will have chance meet at solo order (this is my theory, not tested) although number is unknown. Fleet order is good enough for a fleet to handle, I have seen from 6 to 10-ish enemy ship so far. I'd love to see an update to this thread post-patch. I just pulled a solo rear admiral mission ("orders," not "fleet orders"), and it spawned a ludicrous number of ships of the line for me to fight solo. Roughly (from memory) four Pavels, two Bellonas, three 3rd Rates, and five Ingermanlands. Previously, these missions spawned two 3rd Rates. Was this a bug or have they increased the BR in these missions by more than 1000%? I think you might got drag into a event. If there is AI with your team, then its a fleet order, if not its one of those epic event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 IA ships are too strong actually, they never miss their shot, you don't have any chance of mistakes, 1 mistake, you sink like a shit. Even with a SNOW against a CUTTER, you'll finish the battle with only 25% of your full health and 5 leaks (Minimum) Sorry but ... ITS NOT REALISTIC !! For a simulation, it's shit ... I still have ai missing their entire broadsides on me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavalActionPlayer Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I still have ai missing their entire broadsides on me. What are you doing, if anything, to cause the missing? Keen to learn the trick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Hands Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Rank 4 - Brig and Pickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMist Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Rank 5 Navy Brig and Snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Von WeisenCracker Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Well, then I will fill what I known so far. Rank 7 Fleet Mission have a chance of spawning: Niagara, Cerberus, Renommee, Surprise, Frigate, Belle Poule and Trincomalee. Rank 8 Solo Mission (only tried this once): Pavel x1 Rank 8 Fleet Mission have chance of spawning: Constitution, Ingermanland, 3rd rate, Bellona(?), Pavel That all I known since after the update. I assume that what ever you meet at fleet order you will have chance meet at solo order (this is my theory, not tested) although number is unknown. Fleet order is good enough for a fleet to handle, I have seen from 6 to 10-ish enemy ship so far. I think you might got drag into a event. If there is AI with your team, then its a fleet order, if not its one of those epic event I was thinking the same thing .. that you might have mistakenly clicked on an EVENT and not your admiralty orders -- did that ONCE ... mind you ONCE! There are a lot of the Sabers out there... its easy to click the wrong one if you are NOT careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardphat Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Flag captain and commodore mission in solo mode (assuming rank 9 and 10) have basically the same AI, despite post patch with slight difference. It's either: 1x connie + 1x ingermanland 2x connie 1x Pavel 1x 3rd rate On rare occasion I get the opportunity to fight Bellona and a single connie in either 169xp or 186 xp mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bommel Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) 2x ingermanland is possible too in 169xp order that is Edited May 5, 2016 by Bommel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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