Excelsior718 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I've already paid for this game (purchased 3 copies,) but I want to continue to pay for it once it goes into final release. I don't want to pay a lot, but I really want Game Labs to charge me a modest subscription fee. ($5 to $10 per month seems about right.) Why do I want to pay a subscription fee? It's because I want Game Labs to make this game something that will be attractive to long term players. If all of the revenue is earned on initial game sales, then the incentives are for Game Labs to dumb the game down and make it appealing to the broadest possible base. Financially, it won't matter if people get bored of the game after a month and stop playing, because there's no money to be made by keeping players interested and engaged long-term. There's also no incentive to keep supporting the game. (Remember Hellgate, London?) With a subscription model, there is a greater incentive to make the game interesting for long-term players and keep the game challenging and fresh. A subscription would also provide an income stream to fund improvements. So, please, take more of my money. I want Game Labs to work hard to keep the long term players happy, and without a subscription model, I don't think the incentives are correctly aligned. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noif Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 If game has already took 37euro by me then why I should pay fee if I have already paid for it? Don't agree. It is full price ( + dlcs/microsactions) or otherwise it should be F2P (with monthly fee). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzak Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) No. The number of players is already low at it is, a monthly subscription would make the game empty. And giving advantages to people paying for a subscription would make it unfair. I'm sure you can buy more copies of the same so you can have more characters, or wait for devs to release premium ships if you really want to give devs some money. You can even give free copies to your friends ! Please consider that a lot of people DONT have a lot of money to spend into games, nor do they want people with money privilegied. Edited February 10, 2016 by Azzak 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlavDeng2 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The devs have allready said they dont want a monthly charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalriaden Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 No. The number of players is already low at it is, a monthly subscription would make the game empty. And giving advantages to people paying for a subscription would make it unfair. I'm sure you can buy more copies of the same so you can have more characters, or wait for devs to release premium ships if you really want to give devs some money. You can even give free copies to your friends ! Please consider that a lot of people DONT have a lot of money to spend into games, nor do they want people with money privilegied. I try not to judge, but if people can't afford .33 cents a day they're probably better off not spending $40 on a game to start with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Spivey Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 No. The number of players is already low at it is, a monthly subscription would make the game empty. And giving advantages to people paying for a subscription would make it unfair. I'm sure you can buy more copies of the same so you can have more characters, or wait for devs to release premium ships if you really want to give devs some money. You can even give free copies to your friends ! Please consider that a lot of people DONT have a lot of money to spend into games, nor do they want people with money privilegied. This. Also, the industry as a whole is moving away from monthly subscription because it puts potential players off. The upfront single payment and then paid for major upgrades seem to be the best compromise between monthly subscription, which a lot of people don't like and the 'Free to play' with micropayments which also a lot of people don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I try not to judge, but if people can't afford .33 cents a day they're probably better off not spending $40 on a game to start with. It doesn't necessarily have to do with being able to pay or not, it is a matter of opinion and principles, your point is moot. I agreed on paying sum X to get my hands on this title. If they would (I know they won't) later, out of the blue, demand monthly payment, that would be ridiculous - like the original post. If you want to throw your money at them, I think they mentioned that donations will be a possibility sooner or later. So there you go. /thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazta Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 This. Also, the industry as a whole is moving away from monthly subscription because it puts potential players off. The upfront single payment and then paid for major upgrades seem to be the best compromise between monthly subscription, which a lot of people don't like and the 'Free to play' with micropayments which also a lot of people don't like. I'm curious to the trend. Is it a younger generation of gamer? Those that have been inundated with the absolute flood of free to play games on the market. Being a seasoned online gamer, it was always a subscription model for MMO's. Without naming names there are other niche games that use subscription models that thrive. I of course realize that maybe some people simply can't afford a monthly subscription. But I have to agree with the OP, take more of my money. This game has so much potential and future development requires funding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirror452 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Game Labs said that MAYBE, if they don't get enough money through sales (anymore), they will add the opportunity to buy Premium vessels. However they also said that the only advantage of these Premium vessels will be their beauty, and that none of them will be better than their player crafted counter parts. So there you go... Throw your money at them this way, if they decide that they need it. That being said, I agree that a monthly subscription would be very sad for many players. I for one would have to leave the game then, no matter how low this subscription would be Edited February 10, 2016 by mirror452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruthless4u Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Supscription = me walking away from the game. I can afford it, but I hate messing with it. Once you introduce something like that then at some point you know the prices would just keep going up, kinda like my cable bill. Not worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reki Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why do I want to pay a subscription fee? It's because I want Game Labs to make this game something that will be attractive to long term players. I think they could make free donation possibility for you and guys who want pay what they have to devs. Problem could be solved without talking for whole population to make them lose they money, because you want to lose own. Thanks. btw, they already said that long term attractivity isn't they goal here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremor Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 maybe a subscription model like eve ?where you can trade ingame money for "plex" ? maybe combined with : subscription is optional it only gives you a xp boost ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decrayer Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I try not to judge, but if people can't afford .33 cents a day they're probably better off not spending $40 on a game to start with. It's not .33 cents per day if you don't play daily. The main reason for me to don't play subscription based games is, that they don't have a fine granular measurement of time spend in the game. I don't want to pay 12 euro per month if I only play for 3 hours in 3 days that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruthless4u Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I think they could make free donation possibility for you and guys who want pay what they have to devs. Problem could be solved without talking for whole population to make them lose they money, because you want to lose own. Thanks. btw, they already said that long term attractivity isn't they goal here. What exactly would long term be in their context I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlavDeng2 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 People, i said this earlier in the thread and will repeat it, the devs have allready said they dont want a subscription model in the game, il see if i can find a source of that later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babble Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Okay no subscription model so we dont lose player base. No premium ships because everyone hates pay to win. But some people would still like to support the devs somehow to help and ensure this game lives up to its full potential. I suggest they simply open back up their paypal account or have a , "hey wanna donate some money" button. Id happily donate money to the devs regularly to ensure they continually work to improve game play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triahx Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Is this a joke? Are you a paid shill? Edited February 10, 2016 by Triahx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbows Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Absolutely not. If we went to subscription based, I'd leave (and none of my friends who are about to buy-in, would). No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khendon Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 even if they added a sub they could just credit like 2-3 months to playes who owned the game previous to the subscription model being added. i agree that i would love for this game to be developed far beyond initial sales. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 i dont think there are problems with over longtime with Naval Action. the only problem is that our 80+ people playing the game migth disapear. Buy2Play you buyed the game fine nothing for you to pay further. for people that want to donate money there will be a cosmetic shop. be it figureheads flags banners, or just a resking of an 12gun fore and aft ship (Yacht). and when looking at the markedquality these days an 10/10 from IGN mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsior718 Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 I would like to be able to continue playing this game several years after release. Bottom line is that without some sort of funding model that allows for continued support of the game, that isn't going to happen. It doesn't have to be a subscription. It could be microtransactions, premium content or something else. If the financial model is just based on game sales, then the game will have a relatively short life, which would be sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalriaden Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 It doesn't necessarily have to do with being able to pay or not, it is a matter of opinion and principles, your point is moot. I agreed on paying sum X to get my hands on this title. If they would (I know they won't) later, out of the blue, demand monthly payment, that would be ridiculous - like the original post. If you want to throw your money at them, I think they mentioned that donations will be a possibility sooner or later. So there you go. /thread They could add a subscription later, voluntarily, like star citizen. nothing in the star citizen subscription gives you an advantage, nor is it mandatory, it gives you some silly display piece and lets you contribute for their 10 for the chairman/developer/whatever series. Whereas in NA they could let you dye your sails or something while adding the money to run servers/development. Quite frankly your point is moot, they can easily add an option without it being mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajffighter86 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 They are talking about minor cosmetic microtransactions to keep the game going. I'd be fully supportive of things like (realistic) custom flags, sail colors, and paint jobs. There is no need for monthly subscriptions at this point, and I believe that the developers of the game mentioned in an interview about a week ago that they will try to avoid that means of revenue if at all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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